In a new English edition of "Iwata Asks," in which Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata politely interrogates designers and employees about recent games, there's an interesting discussion regarding the difficulty of Kirby's Epic Yarn. Specifically, it's about how developer Good-Feel cut out deadly traps and objects in order to preserve the game's endearing, fluffy and fun atmosphere.
"As a team, we were extremely opposed to the idea of an action game where the game wasn't over when an enemy got you," said producer Etsunobu Ebisu. "We debated that for quite a long time." At first, levels in Kirby's Epic Yarn (formerly Fluff's epic yarn) were full of thorns, a thrilling contrivance that didn't sit well with the game's warm aesthetic. Later, however, "we thought it would be fine if we just made a fun game the way we're good at," Ebisu explained.
This led to the introduction of a different characteristic in obstacles, with failure to avoid them resulting in the loss of Kirby's collected beads. You can collect them once dropped, but the in-game currency -- used to unlock bonus levels, for instance -- acts as a strong measure of success at the conclusion of a stage. "When serious gamers play, they want to clear a level without any mistakes like running into enemies, so this game is made so you really feel regret when you run into enemies and a strong sense of achievement when you clear a level without any mistakes," said producer Nobuo Matsumiya.
Or, as Iwata succinctly put it: "As a gamer, it's humiliating to bump into an enemy."
Reader Comments (39)
Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:07PM Yothe said
It's more realistic to not die if you run into an enemy. Not that in anyway I'm thinking realism works better, just sayin' it's nice to break away from stereotypical gameplay.
Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:12PM Sleepyperson said
@Yothe That really depends on the type of game it is. In these types of games it makes sense to die if you run into a enemy, a FPS on the other hand. Though they did it right I get pissed when I get or miss a jump.
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Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:14PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Yothe
I'm having a hard time grasping the concept of even using the word "realism" on a game about a pink fluff made of yarn.
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I'm having a hard time grasping the concept of even using the word "realism" on a game about a pink fluff made of yarn.
Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:15PM Innagadadavida said
It was a challenge for me to buy the game as a 20-year old man. I was humiliated by the pink box art and the employee's questions that ensued. But I did it anyway and have no regrets.
Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:20PM Apsac D said
@Innagadadavida
You're an inspiration to 20 year-old gamers everywhere.
I picked this game up as well, while it might not be challenging, it's definitely a good idea with a lot of creativity behind it. It's nice to take a break from worrying whether I'm about to die and just enjoy a game for being good.
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You're an inspiration to 20 year-old gamers everywhere.
I picked this game up as well, while it might not be challenging, it's definitely a good idea with a lot of creativity behind it. It's nice to take a break from worrying whether I'm about to die and just enjoy a game for being good.
Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:24PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said
@Innagadadavida
That's what Amazon is for.
A nice, discreet brown box, delivered straight to your door!
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That's what Amazon is for.
A nice, discreet brown box, delivered straight to your door!
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 12:39AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Innagadadavida
I guess I can understand where you guys are coming from, but I am in no way embarrassed by the games I buy. Especially not a game as fun as this. But then again, I'm pretty secure about myself...
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I guess I can understand where you guys are coming from, but I am in no way embarrassed by the games I buy. Especially not a game as fun as this. But then again, I'm pretty secure about myself...
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 12:58AM Innagadadavida said
@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 No you're not.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2010 1:29AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Hank Hill
I have no shame because I don't feel embarrassed about going into a store and buying a (very good) video game. That makes perfect sense. Maybe you should stop selling propane and try and pursue your passion as a psychiatrist.
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I have no shame because I don't feel embarrassed about going into a store and buying a (very good) video game. That makes perfect sense. Maybe you should stop selling propane and try and pursue your passion as a psychiatrist.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 1:36AM Innagadadavida said
@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 I'd say that the man who feels the need to talk about how secure he is-- is anything but.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2010 1:41AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Innagadadavida
My point wasn't to point out how secure I am. My intention was to make fun of you guys.
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My point wasn't to point out how secure I am. My intention was to make fun of you guys.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 2:09AM Innagadadavida said
@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 And yet you continue.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2010 2:31AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Innagadadavida
You replied to me, so I replied back, it's just what a normal person does. And your reply "and yet you continue", was much more pointless than mine, at least I was explaining myself with a real reply. All you were doing is commenting on the obvious to get the last word in. Anyways, all that aside, we're both equally immature here.
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You replied to me, so I replied back, it's just what a normal person does. And your reply "and yet you continue", was much more pointless than mine, at least I was explaining myself with a real reply. All you were doing is commenting on the obvious to get the last word in. Anyways, all that aside, we're both equally immature here.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 2:35AM Innagadadavida said
@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2
A real secure man would never admit to being "immature."
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A real secure man would never admit to being "immature."
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 3:05AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Innagadadavida
You're obviously missing the point of every comment here. So if you don't mind, I'll be going to bed now.
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You're obviously missing the point of every comment here. So if you don't mind, I'll be going to bed now.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 9:56AM Uncle Jesse said
@Innagadadavida
My wife teaches grade 6. When she told the kids that she and I have been playing Kirby they said that 'it was for babies' and laughed at her. Someone once said one of the best comments ever:
"M rated games are for the kids. E rated games are for adults."
Sometimes I think it's true. Even though these kids might love Kirby, it just isn't 'cool' enough. They'll grow up soon enough.
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My wife teaches grade 6. When she told the kids that she and I have been playing Kirby they said that 'it was for babies' and laughed at her. Someone once said one of the best comments ever:
"M rated games are for the kids. E rated games are for adults."
Sometimes I think it's true. Even though these kids might love Kirby, it just isn't 'cool' enough. They'll grow up soon enough.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 10:41AM Themariohenri said
@Hank Hill They should do a game about propane.
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Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:22PM ChuckBartowskiX said
Sorry couldnt hear you over the cuteness of this game. Also, this grass feels like pants.
Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:40PM Mirhderer said
So it's like Sonic? REVOLUTIONARY!!
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 3:34AM delicatessen lama said
@Mirhderer Sonic isn't cute. He's not pink.
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Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:42PM Abob Lyndsae said
I really like this game's aesthetic. It reminds me of that Sega Saturn platformer Clockwork Knight, except it's actually good.
Posted: Oct 25th 2010 10:55PM Sly C said
gotta commend them on the graphics. that screenshot looks... realistic. they captured the "feel" of the textures perfectly.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 12:29AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Sly C
The screenshot looks nice. But it looks even better in motion.
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The screenshot looks nice. But it looks even better in motion.
Posted: Oct 25th 2010 11:13PM CaptainProtonX said
This game just makes me happy. Not many games do that.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 10:00AM Uncle Jesse said
@CaptainProtonX
I defy anyone to play that level where you are bouncing on drums and swinging across harp strings to not smile... IMPOSSIBLE!
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I defy anyone to play that level where you are bouncing on drums and swinging across harp strings to not smile... IMPOSSIBLE!
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 1:44AM Rm88 said
It blows my mind that people are ashamed of BUYING a game they like, simply because it's cute. I'm a 22 years old man who buys Mario, Kirby and Pokémon games and I've never feel 'ashamed' because of it. I even bought Super Princess Peach twice (Japanese, American).
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 1:58AM SimonBelmont said
Are you guys really embarrassed about buying a Kirby game? I'm 26 and didn't even think anything of it, nor did the employees at the Gamestop I bought it at, in fact they seemed equally excited about it, and they were in their mid-30s. Kirby is a series I grew up with, much like Mario, Metroid, Castlevania, Zelda, etc. If you have issues with buying this game just because the character is pink, you need to grow up. No one is going to make fun of you for buying any game, no matter how girly or childish you may think it is, we aren't in 2nd grade anymore.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 3:21AM phenylketonurics said
It was the massively amazing surprise of the Gradius-esque levels that sold me. I played through the game with my brother, laughing at how literally adorable the game was until we reached the level that turns you and Prince Fluff into space ships.
Nothing fluffy about the Vic Viper, yo. That's just HOT. Totally replaying those levels later on.
Nothing fluffy about the Vic Viper, yo. That's just HOT. Totally replaying those levels later on.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 8:34AM LionheartAce said
Or rather, the Sonic games are known for dying. :D
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Posted: Oct 26th 2010 5:23AM CSP said
hehe apparently 20 and 22 year old gamers are still immature so I guess...you still got a lot to learn hehehe
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 10:55AM mynameisjay said
It's impossible to play this game without a big grin on your face.
Posted: Oct 26th 2010 6:14PM Mr Khan said
They've definitely achieved that. I think i said it in the WRUP, but i'll add it here: if i lose my beads in an irretrievable way (mostly through falling in a pit), i'll often reset the stage
Posted: Oct 29th 2010 1:20PM DarkSonata said
I've always loved Kirby games all the way, even if it's a fluffy thready yarny aksdjfakj game, I'll try it for sure!
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