Noah's Ark is first game in SouthPeak edutainment line

@dogmaticatheist Yeah like when Science taught us things are facts and then after further research, oops, never mind. f.e. Showers are actually good for you, Pluto is not a planet, Trees actually can communicate!

@Doctor Doom
I'm sorry, but making scientific claims and later discovering corrections in said claims is much different than believing an old man was able to get two of every species on earth and fit them all onto a boat, (most of which would easily kill and devour a human,) while the entire world was flooded.

There are so many things impossible and wrong about the Noah's Ark story it's not even funny.

@Doctor Doom well at least science is explaining things on facts available in that time. technology is advancing and so do new facts come in and yes sometimes some of findings must be revisited to meet new facts. Yes Pluto is not full planet it's a dwarf planet. So? science is explaining things with facts and not explaining all with factless magic like religion do.

I hate when people have such attitudes about things they don't even try to understand. Please go read some books about the subject before announcing your ignorance to the world.

It's funny that while fighting for the "i don't believe everything I'm told (unlike Christians)" stance (and therefore rejecting a story), you affirm that you do believe (almost) everything you're told.

I say this because you believe that the story is _meant_ to be taken literally. Who told you that? And why do you (still) believe it? A simple exploration into genre and ANE history would prove that it was never meant to be taken literally and a little history lesson would show that not many Christians (until the 18th Century) have taken it literally.

Anyways, there's a lot religion isn't meant to answer (and doesn't try to answer, despite what some may think) and the same is true for science (again, despite what some might think).

@xnowimcoolx And you expect 3-6 year old children to immediately know these stories aren't meant to be taken literally?

@xnowimcoolx

well, when it's taught to be taken literally then it's taught to be taken literally.

just as literally as it's taught that jesus died on cross and came back to life 3 days later, so.. where would the literally stop? it doesn't. if christianity was mainly taught as philosophy, way of thinking, then there'd be more point to it. but that's not how church services go you know, they're all about stating biblical events as actual literal fact. it wouldn't vibe well if the priest started contemplating on the concept of heaven and the inherent problems with it.

though, with concept of god as a jester of sorts like in christian old texts, god could have altered the evidence(world could have been created to the state it is in 3 seconds ago, already having this posting in it at the point of 'creation').

@xnowimcoolx

That's one of my personal problems with the bible. It's hard to tell where the metaphors end and the reality begins sometimes. I know much of the book of Genesis is metaphors or exaggerations used to convey a message (rather than a literal recounting of events), but then later in the bible it draws upon these metaphors as if they were fact.

Specifically I can think of the story of creation. Adam & Eve were created, which is generally seen as a metaphor (as far as I understand) but then later in the bible they trace Jesus' roots back to Adam & Eve. Was this also a metaphor of sorts merely used to give him a more symbolic family tree? Was it done solely so that people would further believe he was who he claimed to be? (What I mean is, by tracing him back to the origin of life, people might be more inclined to accept the extreme things he was saying about his father and birth.)

Then, if his family tree was a metaphor, what other parts of his life are metaphors? A lot of people these days take every story involving him literally, which leads to a lot of confusion and disbelief. I'd be so much easier if they could just say "if it sounds too good to be true, it's probably just a metaphor or exaggeration used to really drive the point home about how he felt, acted, and lived."

@Doctor Doom

But who is doing further research on the bible - you can do an experiment on whether showers are good for you or not, but in 400 years there'll still be the same backwards looking philosophy (only slightly further away so even more irrelevant) - or, as has happened countless times during Christian history, somebody may come along and rewrite/reinterpret the bible to suit their own political ends.

Unless God is casting some kind of spell of infallibility on organised religion, then these churches are run by imperfect people with imperfect agendas.

@xnowimcoolx That's why they are taught as literal stories?

@dogmaticatheist

I try to interpret everything read from the Bible as a metaphor, and the irony is that I do believe in a higher power. The problem with people who embrace it so whole-heartedly is that they don't care about facts or thought processes...they just want someone to tell them what to believe, kind of like people believing politicians and political commentators...thinking hurts their heads, so they'd rather be fed something instead. Who's to say that King James didn't rewrite certain parts of the Bible to suit his own ends? Not to mention that translations between languages are never quite as spot-on as they hope to be. Just look at Engrish.com and you'll know what I mean.

@dogmaticatheist

I'm not going to participate in this. It's about to get ugly.

@SnorlaxTheSerialKiller
It already is ugly.

I don't even know why joystiq posts stories like this. Anyone who reads a gaming blog, I consider a real gamer. This obviously isn't a game that any real gamers are going to be interested in. So basically they post these stories to start flame wars.

@Doctor Doom

I just find it ironic that Doctor Doom is bashing science, lol.

@The Joy of Painting w Bob Ross

LuLz.

@JPeak

The Pope is a nazi!

@JPeak

Not saying I'm for or against Christians or religion in general, but would you trust someone who looked like this?

http://doctore0.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/evil-pope.jpg

@sonicspike41

Rise of the Anti-Pope

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGBHfXPqbgI

@sonicspike41
Rather vain to judge someone by their appearance, not by the acts, eh?

@BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam
Grow a sense of humor.

@BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam

He's not saying the zombie Pope looks evil, he's just saying he might be hungry for brains.

@BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam

His acts are far uglier than his looks.

@JPeak You were too late....

I don't think anything gets comments like religion or politics on a gaming blog which has people from all walks of life....I'm a Christian but I'm not gonna attack people for their beliefs or lack their of....it's a choice when u get to a certain age....even if it is thrust upon you as a child you can choose when u get older....

@Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi

It's hard to make a choice for some people, when that choice was made for them since childhood. People underestimate the subconsious influence that constantly repeating religious dogma has on a young individual throughout his adulthood.

@The Stench of Burning Death
It's hard to make a choice for some people, when that choice was made for them since childhood. People underestimate the subconsious influence that constantly repeating religious dogma has on a young individual throughout his adulthood.
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sort of like how people become homosexual?

OH SNAP! RELIGION AND HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE SAME TOPIC!

B3ST T0P1C EVAR!!!

@ToastyToasy
I sure blame Bible Games like those made by Wisdom Tree.

@ToastyToasy

I dunno, I think if they made a game called "Burn the Witch" or "Cuttie Crusaders" they would make millions! Throw in a torture mini-game and BAM!

@ToastyToasy

The only lessons they needed were written in a book 4,000 years before games existed!

Although an Old Testiment game in the hands of the write creator could be pretty rad. Vaporizing people with a gold box, dancing around golden idols, turning people to salt, razing cities with divine powers, and dawning romans.

Or we could have a "Be the Pope" game where you get to be Pope Alexander VI hosting his famous prostitute races!

@Doctor Doom ...and it's comments like that that ensure that 20-somethings will never turn to Christianity.

@Doctor Doom

That would be pre-judging and insulting among other things.

If I said my father was in prison for murder, my sister was a petty thief who's literally stolen from her own immediate family, my mother is clinically depressed and beyond repair, etc. etc. etc.... would that make my case for or against religion any more or less valid?

I can understand how people who've experienced a loss need a way to cope, and sometimes that's religion or drugs or volunteer work or just anything, but that doesn't make what they're doing any more right or wrong than it was before.

@Doctor Doom Yes, because everyone who suffers tragedy immediately turns to god. Dumb ass.

@Doctor Doom The way you describe it makes God and religion sound more like a scapegoat to be used instead of coming to terms with such things yourself.

I'm not a man of any religion, but I do know religion is about having faith in something and being a better person, not suddenly crying to God because you're depressed about something and can't cope with the feelings yourself.

@Doctor Doom

So experiencing tragedy, death, hunger and trauma (and I'm assuming disease, war, abuse, exploitation, etc) really just proves that there IS a god? I don't think I've heard that argument before, please continue.

@Doctor Doom

shut up. you're making the perfectly reasonable religious people look bad.

@ToastyToasy
I'm guessing this post is directed at me (it says unverified, and my post got deleted), so if it is, allow me to explain myself...

I wasn't trying to attack Atheists, or really try to focus specifically on it. I apologize if I came off as such. In fact, if memory serves me right, I listed off several systems of belief beyond Christianity and Atheism.

My point was basically that noone is right or wrong when it comes to a system of belief. Whether it's the belief of one, many, or no gods, it's just a belief and that it's arrogant to claim you KNOW something and that you're better than someone else for believing a certain way.

Also, you complain about me assuming someone is Atheist, when in turn you assume I'm Christian (which I never specified in my post). :p

@BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam I see, well admittedly I only skimmed after reading your first paragraph, so I apologize for the assumption on my part.
The way you worded it made it seem like you were Christian yourself, but in the end I'm just making the same assumptions people make when they think I'm an Atheist, haha.
Sorry about that.

@ToastyToasy
Well, skimming after the first paragraph... then you missed the entire point of my message. :V

And, well, I am Catholic. I was just pointing out the humor in being guilty for the same thing you accused me of. :p

@Beatz
How was my post self-righteous? All I was getting at is it's arrogant to claim you know something that's impossible (at least, for now) to know.

@BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam Because we can read.

@Rocketboy
That response... made absolutely no sense.

@BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam We can see that your post is self-righteous, because we can read.