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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 11:31PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said

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Sony's looking for some hot Latin love, huh?

Can't say that I blame them!

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:53PM Ridgecity said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze

To get an idea how lost Sony really, by all latin America they mean Mexico and Brazil.

Gaming is pretty much an impossible feat any place south of Tijuana. To get into gaming you will have to be prepared to buy everything at twice or triple the prices americans pay and get everything weeks, months later (sometimes never). Have a machine break down, you are pretty much out of luck if you don't live in a giant city (anything bigger than 5,000,000 people will have official service) and expect to pay big money for it.

Sony is the worst of the 3. A Ps3 game costs +$85, that shows Sony is pretty much death in the market. The console is too expensive, specially when you can build an amazing pc with that money, play the same games. And blurays? even if I live close to the one of the biggest bluray printing plants in the world, No one buys them.

Nintendo a distant second from Microsoft. The official wii price is $385 dollars here in Mexico with games running a cool $60-$70.Yet the guy that sells you an imported one will get you one for $200. The company that resells Nintendo here (since Nintendo doesn't have official presence here) half assed the success of the Wii and DS with ridiculous prices. I bought my Wii on the first day for around $320. A couple weeks later it went up and never returned to the original price. Your console or a Balance Board breaks? too fuckin bad. Either you send it to Mexico City or buy another. That's the Nintendo logic. Remember that Cammie Dunaway came to work here to Mexico. It wouldn't surprise me that company she works for now, is the one that sells Nintendo stuff here.

Another example is that Rockband all included package costs $370.

Too bad everyone in the northern states can sell them on the internet for american prices and send it to your house for $10. Or even worst, a guy hacks it for $10 and you get games for free of the internet.

I love gaming but most of the people I used to play video games with during my school years simply can't afford it anymore. Specially when they can come over for the weekend and play an $100 game they can beat in 7 hours. With shorter games with very low level of difficulty that price tag is only for aficionados with money. lots of money.

After writing all that rant, I've realized gaming fucking sucks for us. Too bad for Sony that they us as their saviors...
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 3:36AM 3vilHarry said

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I´m from Mexico.... and Sony here has a lot of work to do:

We don´t have access to Home (unless u use an US account), the prices of the games (PSN) are higher than the US store (funny thing... the prices are on US dollars ...why are they more expensive? beats me....),not to mention that we don´t have the full catalog of the PSN (speaking of games....video services are another story), We can´t use Credit Card to buy on the PSN (even i can buy Wii Points....why not PSN goodies?...beats me too) and if you want to buy the PSN cards, its a DAMN PAIN, because u can only get them on the Sony site (u can buy Xbox live points and wii points on walmart .....why not PSN cards? ...im still wondering that), so its the card + shipping cost and takes a week to arrive.

The ps3 price is too high (i blame the game stores for that... the price is the double), not to mention that some accessories are not even available, and the worst....if your PS3 gets broken ..pray there is a Sony Service center close...or you are screwed or if ur PS3 is the older model (the old first generation), u don´t get support...since Sony here claims that they don´t have the parts to fix it....

So ...give us better support a decent PSN and for F-ck sake... make those bloody PSN card more reachable.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 4:59PM Bewoulf said

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Jeez. Sucks for gamers in South America. We got a lot of work to do, let's spread the games. In fact, I'm certain video games can bring about World Peace. So let's spread it world wide in cheap prices.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 8:55PM NoirR said

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@3vilHarry
Yeah, here's another mexican and i know what you mean, to be honest i don't even have a Mexican PSNID since i got my PS3 before the PSstore launched on Mexico and had to use a US account (the one i still use for the same reason you have already explained (to be honest i wasn't aware the mexican Id's couldn't get Home to work) at least they sell the PSN cards on Sanborns now XD
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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 11:44PM chromekreeper said

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gaming is something everyone should enjoy. i hear that the only playstation branded systems down there are PS2's.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:02AM UnnXandros said

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@chromekreeper

Im from "down there"

PS3 (119 games according to ps3trophies.com)
PSP
X360
This generation
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:04AM Jhoalot said

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@chromekreeper
I'm latin american and guess what? I have ps3 but since price here, aren't the same as the US ones is a lot more difficult to buy a gaming system, i imported my 2 PS3s.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:48AM NoirR said

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@chromekreeper
yeah, here's a mexican and can say i have a PS3 and PSP (had a 360 but just gave it to my bro)
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 10:13AM Dropeti said

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@chromekreeper

Uhhh, no.
Only in this site you can find more than 3400 people from "down there" that actively play their PS3: http://www.myps3t.com.br/rank/
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 10:37AM Vidaluko said

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@chromekreeper PS3, Xbox360, Wii, DS, PSP, Alienware laptop, HDTVs in all rooms (4) and right now over 120 games for all consoles, I live in Mexico n_n
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 10:55AM crtavo said

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@chromekreeper
Xbox360, Wii, DS all of them since their respective launches. I live in Costa Rica.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 8:59PM NoirR said

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@Vidaluko
Marry me XD JK XD
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 8:59PM NoirR said

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@Vidaluko
You'll need 3dHDTV for that XD jk
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Posted: Nov 16th 2010 11:51PM U U D D L R L R B A SELECT START said

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Brazilians have been ambitiously pwning me in games for some time now...do we really need moar!?

Posted: Nov 16th 2010 11:56PM ironneko said

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I'm just going to speak for Argentina, although I know that similar things happen in all South America. Considering a 250 Gb PS3 bundled with inFamous costs +850 dollars, I'd say the biggest problem with growth is price. If you take into account that average annual income, then blowing more than 20% of that on a PS3 seems silly, right?

http://www.sonystyle.com.ar/ar/site/catalog/ProductDisplay.jsp?stockType=A&parentCatId=cat4270004&category=acessorios&ProductCount=7&tabNum=1&id=PS3-250GB-INFAMOUS

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:20AM Lman said

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@ironneko

You can always find it through other channels and pay almost half that price (sonystyle has always been that expensive on everything)
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:28AM Lman said

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@Lman

Actually, not half price, but at least 100-200u$s less.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:31AM Lawfer said

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@Lman: I hope the "other channels" you are talking about aren't smmugle and piracy.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 4:00AM ironneko said

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@Lman

This is Sony we're talking about. The company itself was trying to make a point. I get all my games from the times I go to the states, friends/relatives who go there and buy stuff for me, or one of the many not-Sony gaming shops who usually sell stuff cheaper. Cheaper still means expensive though.

Also, there is no support for PSN with an Argentinian address, and whenever I brought up the issue with a Sony representative I got a nice "Huh?"

I have my PSN account setup with a friend's address in the states and I buy PSN cards whenever I'm abroad.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:01AM The angry pro consumer gaming ga said

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Sony does offer a "Sony Channel" on cable which is better than most channels since they license the best shows from all 3 major networks and some from Europe as well.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:50PM Lawfer said

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I have been in Latin America (Colombia exactly) and the game industry here sucks, official stores or authorized third party sellers charge for consoles software and periferics double or even more times the real price (A PS3 120 Gb cost like 590 USD last time I ask). My friends here always buy with the help of people in the States who send them the goods by smuggle I supose, or they take the "cheap" piracy methods instead of buying official products.

If Sony or another videogame entretaiment company want to expand the market here they better open their eyes to the true economic situation of Latin America countries.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:42AM wallywallas said

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Even if the PS3 cooked you 3 meals, cleaned your house, did your homework and fellacied you till eternity, it won't sell until Sony finds a way to sell it at the same price it sells at in the U.S.

I payed $600 for my PS3 at launch, no way would I pay $600 for it now.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:44AM wallywallas said

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*paid. (English is my second language)
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:55AM Lawfer said

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I have been in Latin America (Colombia exactly) and the game industry there sucks, official stores or authorized third party sellers charge for consoles software and accessories two or even more times the real price (A PS3 120 Gb cost like 590 USD last time I ask). My friends there always buy with the help of people in the States who send them the goods by smugle I supose, or they take the "cheap" piracy methods instead of buying official products.

If Sony or another videogame entretaiment company want to expand the market, they better open their eyes to the true economic situation of Latin America countries.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:55AM Lawfer said

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I have been in Latin America (Colombia exactly) and the game industry there sucks, official stores or authorized third party sellers charge for consoles software and accessories two or even more times the real price. My friends there always buy with the help of people who send them the goods by smugle I supose, or they take the "cheap" piracy methods instead of buying official products.

If Sony or another videogame entretaiment company want to expand the market, they better open their eyes to the true economic situation of Latin America countries.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:57AM Lawfer said

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@Lawfer: Sorry, havin problems with comment lag.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:57AM eNriqeu said

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AY CARAMBA!

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:07AM Pure Black World Tendency said

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This is good news! If everyone in the world becomes geeks the world will become a better place ;)

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:31AM Abob Lyndsae said

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Are Guyana and Suriname not considered part of Latin America, or what?

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 5:11AM HaroldoNVU said

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@Abob Lyndsae they're not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_america
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 5:12AM HaroldoNVU said

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@Abob Lyndsae they're not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_america
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:43AM metalgera said

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Cant see why Sony is just realizing this... And why Nintendo dont even bother about us. If they want to take seriously Latin America, they have a lot of work to do.

Actually, the Latin American market is way bigger than they think. Because of high prices, there is a lot of gray market. As someone who lives in Latin America (Mexico to be exact), the prices of the Sony products are way higher that in the US (but I know that other latin american countries pay a lot more than we do...) and there isnt a Sony PS3 customer service, like the Microsoft one has.

For some reason, the only way that you can purchase something from the PSN Store is via a prepaid card, that only the some (like 4) Sony Stores sell... and they are in the same city. So 4 stores for the whole country???

Also, the content on the PSN is significantly smaller than in other places, as it is localized to Mexico. To me, it is way better to set up an US account, and purchase PSN cards via ebay, than try to buy something from our store.

I think that Microsoft realized the potential of our market a long time ago. I remember some exec that said the because we live longer with our parents, we could spend more on games.

Since they realized this, we have some of the same XBL content than in US (sans the US only things, like ESPN, netflix, etc.) but the delivery day is almost the same; and we were one of the few countries that got an "official" kinect launch in our own language (but I still not care about that damn thing...).

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 3:53AM 3vilHarry said

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@metalgera Nintendo is showing some love to us!.....they now give us Customer Support! .... and well ..that´s pretty much it.

Still wondering why we don´t get the Club Nintendo´s (not that crappy magazine) goodiess.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 11:11AM Nekki said

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@metalgera

Nintendo used to support latin america at least until the N64 IIRC. Well, actually i speak only regarding argentina, but i suppose it was somewhat similar in other countries.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:18AM 66jzmstr said

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Why are Guyana and Suriname gettin' the shaft in that pic? I know they're not Spanish-speaking countries, but then again, neither is Brazil. Hmm ...

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 10:56AM Angel Mass said

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@66jzmstr

Latin America: the parts of North America and South America to the south of the United States where Romance languages are spoken.

Spanish is a romance language. Brazilian Portuguese is a romance language. The official language in Suriname is Dutch. The official language in Guyana is English.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 10:40AM Vidaluko said

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I think Sony is gonna put PSN card in more stores, but they still have very few stuff in the store, and now even the 360 has video service here in Mexico
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 5:20AM HaroldoNVU said

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I can speak for Brazil only. Our biggest problem isn't the game companies, it's our taxes. I mean, even the stuff we have officially released is ridiculously more expensive. Our Xbox 360 costs about twice of would cost to import a US one. Most people like me will continue to import stuff.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 10:44AM Angel Mass said

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@HaroldoNVU

Agree, im my country is also all about the taxes. Importation is number one priory here, that is how I got the PSPs, PS3, many games and things like Rockband and its peripherals. Something that would be very expensive to do in our market
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 12:40PM Soiden said

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The biggest problem today in LA is pricing. At least now we get consoles and games at the same dates as US (was not like that until some years ago), but the prices are still 50% higher or A LOT more.
And we have lower income. Just do the maths.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:57PM DjiegoMoz said

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I can't buy any games online from my US or EU accounts for some reason.
I want my brazilian PSN, please.

I don't know about the rest of Latin America, but if the brazilian goverment took greater measures in lowering taxes in game products and took a greater front against piracy, Brazil could easily achieve a video game powerhouse market status.

Granted... we do kind of have more serious issues to worry about right now... especially since a clown managed to get himself elected this year.
(Don't ask)

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 1:59PM augustofretes said

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Well, if Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony didn't insist on letting stores charging us as much as twice the price, and instead selling them by their true price (PS3, $299), we would certainly buy a lot more.

I do have a PS3, and Nintendo Wii, and a lot games, but I payed a hell lot more than my USA fellows, I know more people would buy game consoles if they had their normal prices, hell, we even bought them at twice the price (the above average middle class family in Mexico usually has one console, the most popular one, is xbox 360 here, of course, those represent around 15-20% of Mexico's population, but those are still around 18,000,000-22,000,000 persons, they could easily expand to the usual middle class by selling their products at their actual costs, expanding to a market around 30,000,000 - 35,000,000 people...)

I've always find company shortsighted when it comes to selling here, there average annual income in Europe is obviously higher, but the average country in Europe has a lot less people than Mexico and Brazil, by merely focusing in the above average middle class in those two countries there's a market bigger than 80 millions.

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 2:58PM styleznma said

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what about China? I was playing black-ops mp and noticed that they were hardly no ppl playing in ASIA at all... i mean, whats their story? why isn't that region playing games like crazy?

Posted: Nov 17th 2010 5:35PM ironneko said

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@styleznma

They're busy farming gold.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2010 4:26PM Xpike said

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Pfft, if they want to support Latin America, lower the prices to something that won't require us to sell a kidney in order to buy.

I've imported from the U.S. all my consoles and games, and don't plan to stop.

Posted: Nov 20th 2010 1:39AM Gel214th said

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I always think the Piracy argument for PC and other forms of gaming is completely false. The comments here show why. We never seen breakdowns of WHERE the people that pirate these games are from. If someone who lives in a country where the average salary is 4,000 and the game costs 300 dollars pirates you're game, are you losing a sale? No.

Couple this with the fact that many publishers and game developers actively exclude all countries other than the US and Canada from their Digital Delivery programs, these people don't even have the chance to download these games for purchase.

XBOX Live, a key component of the Xbox experience, isn't officially available worldwide.

Companies need to stop using licensing as an excuse to discriminate against people. There should be no region locking for digital content. And if they are discriminating based on region, then regions such as Latin America should get the games at a far reduced rate.

But they'll never use region controls and DRM for that purpose, will they.

As an aside, I notice that Sony has lumped the entire English Speaking Caribbean into Latin America. It shouldn't be. The people speak English, their GDP is different and it's a separate market.

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