Dreamcast collection confirmed, still mysterious

@RastaPanda EDIT: It cut off my comment again, I said I hope they bring back good games =P

@RastaPanda Ironic isn't really the right word for that. More so, coincidental.

Hmmm...

Jet Grind/Set Radio
Skies Of Arcadia
Chu Chu Rocket
both Shenmue games

Make it happen, Sega.

@Robborboy

^^^^ this ^^^^

@Robborboy

Agreed!
I would like to add Power Stone 2 to that list!

I would also cheese my jeans if they would add Armada, but I seriously doubt that will happen! It may have been a classic, but it was a sleeper...So not as much fan demand!

@Robborboy: This is exactly what I was coming in here to post.

@KobaltKode
I'd prefer Power Stone 1, I played that quite a bit, PS2 felt instantly disapointing (I remember not liking it zooming way out so you couldn't see what was going on

@Robborboy -I agree. Jet Grind/Set Radio or no sale.

funny how someone makes a list of dreamcast games they want in a collection, then along comes other people each with equally awesome games that should be included in the collection.

grandia 2!!!

@Robborboy I want that to be true so, so, so much. But a 2/15 release date? I fear not. Now I cry.

@ThatFuzzyBastard STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMiNAL SCUM, THERE WILL BE NO SMASHING AND SHATTERING OF DREAMS ON MY WATCH.

@Feist77 Not like Floigan Bros. NEEDS a graphical update, IMHO...

@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2
That is true... there is a reason why it died and Sega didn't carry on the console making business... I'll leave that statement just hanging there... for people to think about...

@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2

there is a huge catalogue of obscure games. (typing of the dead! space channel 5, dynamite cop etc)

it is by far my favourite console and i am lucky enough to own just about all of the modern consoles.

@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2

Add Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Shenmue, Chu Chu Rocket, Power Stone, Space Channel 5, Ikaruga, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Samba de Amigo, and Virtua Tennis to that list.

Oh, and the best ports of Quake 3 and Marvel vs. Capcom 2. And it was the first truly online system, way ahead of its time. For its timespan, the Dreamcast was an awesome system.

The system was massively popular when it came out. It was more powerful in many ways than the PS2. It had a shitload of hit games, many to this day are still around (Crazy Taxi, ChuChu Rocket, Jet Grind Radio). It had a good controller, a solid amount of accessories, and was the first US console to have a built-in modem, and support for a broadband adaptor, allowing for online play out of the box. You could also buy a VGA adaptor allowing you to hook it up to a computer monitor, and get high-resolution graphics. The GD-ROM's the system used had massive amounts of data storage for the day, 1GB compared to CD-ROM's 650MB.

Combined with Naomi-based arcade machines, you could get near-perfect arcade ports. And combine that with many arcade ports. Only a few systems can you think of where almost every game was a hit, like the Nintendo 64.

The system failed due to lack of advertising. Sega basically didn't advertise it. And the games less so. You might get a TV commercial for the system, or a magazine ad, but they didn't do anything else. With the PS2 and the hype, it overshadowed the Dreamcast eventually. Sega could have fought harder, but they threw in the towel. Had the system recieved more advertising, it might have ended differently.

@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2

Yeah it was a failure, but for what it attempted to do it's hailed as a trail blazer.

If I recall it was the first console that had any sort of online connectivity. Basically everyone took Sega's idea and did it better. The games on Dreamcast were awful upon release. Outside of the first Sonic game, House of the Dead 2, and Madden 2k I don't think I ever paid for another DC game. I did play Resident Evil: Code Veronica, but the dreamcast controller didn't lend itself to playing that game. After Expendable, I was done with the system.

At the time I hated the console. However in hindsight, it did lead to some changes in console gaming.

@Danjcb

The reason why Sega stopped making consoles is because they had already have several in a row fail.

Sega CD, while selling nicely, was still a failure.
Sega 32X, complete failure.
Sega Saturn, failure in the US. Was never meant to be a 3D system, was meant for 2D. After Sony released the specs on the Playstation, they added in some 3D hardware before release, that's why the Saturn doesn't do 3D very well.

They had lost money for years. This wasn't just a "This console sucks, let's stop making consoles altogether", it was a years-long money draining thing on them.

@Fonix

I don't know what games you are talking about, if you got different ones that us, but the launch games for the Dreamcast were considered some of the best (Power Stone, Hydro Thunder, Sonic Adventure, Soul Calier, Ready 2 Rumble, Marvel vs. Capcom, House of the Dead 2) and is one of the strongest launched ever.

launches*

@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2

LOL. Whatever.

@nighttime

Dreamcast was a fantastic, revolutionary console. It had so many original titles, the likes of which we may never see again because many publishers are not equipped to take those same risks today.

I loved my Dreamcast--and that's coming from a staunch Sega hater! I can't tell you the countless hours I put in to Power Stone, Toy Commander, Jet Set Radio, Soul Calibur and Crazy Taxi.

@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2
I didnt have a DC, but I still would like one, I just dont know...
How could you forget about the arcade perfect suite of Capcom hits??
The CPS-II weeps in its grave

Chances are, if you didn't like the Dreamcast (or the equally excellent SEGA Saturn before it), you didn't like arcade games. That was really the main draw, perfect or near perfect ports of arcade games from SEGA coin-op hardware and others.

@Guts "has benefited pretty much everyone".. Except Sonic...

@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2

don't forget Grandia 2 guys.

@Drakkenfyre
In my mind's eye, these are why the DC failed:

56K modem. Broadband was still about a year away, and it was an admirable feat nonetheless to include the 56K modem free. I remember that being huge news back then, since Sega was originally going to sell it separately. Thing was, 56K didn't seem fast enough.

VMU's. Great idea on paper, but poorly executed and with very limited support. Screen wasn't backlit, a bad move. Battery maintenance was also an issue, and did we really need to have dual slots on each controller?

Rumble add-ons. Players had to buy these as peripherals, taking its cues from the N64 at the time. When really, it should have been built-in. They should have gotten rid of that second VMU slot and integrated the force feedback there instead.

Controller design. Its handles encouraged hand fatigue, triggers pinched players hands when pulled, lack of a second analog stick, and the connection cord came out at the bottom of the controller.

Vulnerable to hacking.

Media. The discs weren't that great, especially when players could hear the drive grinding away while reading. Gave the console a really cheap feel.

With all its faults though. ultimately the console did see some great, and in some cases, innovative, titles. I certainly played the hell out of most of them. Skies Of Arcadia, RE: Code Veronica, DOA2, NFL 2K, PSO, Soul Calibur, Powerstone, Grandia, Quake 3 Arena, Jet Grind Radio, Crazy Taxi, and SF Rush 2049 just to name a few.

And I think they are still fun to play to this day, as do probably most everyone else who owned and played one back in the day.

@Miranda Lawson

A...are you serious right now? I mean you're joking, right? I mean, nobody's THAT...right?!

@Miranda Lawson The Dreamcast and its games were discontinued quite awhile back.

So, yes.

@isOmetriC

Independent developers are still making new DC games today.

Granted, these aren't endorsed by Sega, but prove that the console is very much alive

@PS1
I think they had a 1Gb disc for the Dreamcast, a lot of games would fit on a CD with no issue (I knew people that y'know..).. could easily get about a dozen games on a 360 disc (6.6Gb ceiling) - Not decided yet which console I'll consider it for til closer to the time

@Shockwave

dude it's weird enough seeing Dcast games on xbox

@Shockwave

Indeed it is and that's why I won't be buying it. It's just like the Genesis collection. You buy the disc, rush home, throw the sucker in thinking you're going to relive hours of your youth only to discover that it's about 1/10th of the fun.

If you really want to experience these games as they were, buy a Dreamcast and the originals, plug it all up and enjoy.

@Shockwave Dude, my mind was blown when I discovered Sega games being played on a Nintendo console.

@Shockwave

My mind was blown when I played Parappa the Rapper on my DC.

@smoothy I love these statements with no explanation.