Australia's Standing Committee of Attorneys-General are in the process of actively discussing the implementation of a (long overdue) R18+ rating for games in the territory, following the approval of said rating by the nation's federal cabinet earlier this month. However, South Australian AG John Rau recently introduced a thought-provoking idea to the committee: Should the R18+ rating be adopted, Rau believes that the MA15+ rating currently used by the Australian Classification Board should be removed altogether.
Rau, who replaced longtime anti-R18+ advocate Michael Atkinson earlier this year, explained to Gamespot, "My reason for wanting to get rid of MA15+ if an R18+ is passed is that it will provide a crisper delineation between adults-only games and games that are for children." He later added, "if MA15+ comes out of the mix altogether, I think parents will have a clearer idea what games are for children, and what games are for adults."
Should the MA15+ rating be repealed, the next-lowest rating used by the ACB would be M, which the board applies to games which "contain material that requires a mature perspective, but is still not enough to be deemed too strong for younger viewers." There's no age restriction applied to these games at Australian retailers, making it roughly equivalent to the Teen classification used by the ESRB. Rau's got a compelling argument, here -- but it won't make much of a difference if the Committee fails to approve the R18+ rating in the first place. C'mon, guys! We believe in you!
Reader Comments (32)
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 3:13AM blackangel209 said
Christ. No offense to anyone that lives in Australia, but your government officials are total f**ktards.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 3:32AM Munky said
@blackangel209
Actually, it makes sense in a way. M and MA15+ don't really have that much of a difference between them. If anything, I'd be more inclined to get rid of the M rating though. "Mature audiences" is so vague and there's nothing at all stopping a 10 year old (hell, even a 5 year old) from buying an M rated game or film.
Also, I think it's pretty safe to say that Government officials are "total f**ktards" regardless of the country.
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Actually, it makes sense in a way. M and MA15+ don't really have that much of a difference between them. If anything, I'd be more inclined to get rid of the M rating though. "Mature audiences" is so vague and there's nothing at all stopping a 10 year old (hell, even a 5 year old) from buying an M rated game or film.
Also, I think it's pretty safe to say that Government officials are "total f**ktards" regardless of the country.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 3:34AM Heffer Wolfe said
@Mach2
I don't think it has anything to do with the stupidity of the parent, but rather, their confidence that their child can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
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I don't think it has anything to do with the stupidity of the parent, but rather, their confidence that their child can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 3:50AM Hivetyrant said
@blackangel209
None taken
We, the people of Australia, agree
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None taken
We, the people of Australia, agree
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 5:19AM roflmaol33t said
@blackangel209
Yeah our government is shit at everything our stuff is way more expensive and the government does not give a damn about anything.Money grubbers
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Yeah our government is shit at everything our stuff is way more expensive and the government does not give a damn about anything.Money grubbers
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 8:31AM ShadowXIII said
@blackangel209
I've been there and I approve this message.
...honestly, I could have all the money in the world and still not buy even one of them a f%(&ing clue.
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I've been there and I approve this message.
...honestly, I could have all the money in the world and still not buy even one of them a f%(&ing clue.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 3:43AM FuriousMailman said
"if MA15+ comes out of the mix altogether, I think parents will have a clearer idea what games are for children, and what games are for adults."
No, it would be exactly the same. I haven't seen anyone unsure if the big red MA15+ sign means it's safe for the kiddies or not.
You're just removing because you think it will streamline the system. It won't. The gap between M and R18+ is a substantial one, meaning a game that would have fittingly been rated MA15+ will be bumped up to an unneccessary R rating.
No, it would be exactly the same. I haven't seen anyone unsure if the big red MA15+ sign means it's safe for the kiddies or not.
You're just removing because you think it will streamline the system. It won't. The gap between M and R18+ is a substantial one, meaning a game that would have fittingly been rated MA15+ will be bumped up to an unneccessary R rating.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 3:45AM Esposch said
No, this will just start the problem again of MA15+ games incorrectly being labelled as M, making parents think that they're OK.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 4:12AM Dylaan said
The whole issue is about giving parents and other buyers MORE information on which to base their decisions and this tool thinks we should start by removing a classification?
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 4:41AM Ncrdrg said
Goodness, what a huge idiot.
There is a need for something to be between a 12-13 years old rating and a adults-only mature one. There's tons of mature games that aren't AO material but aren't suitable for 12 years old.
There is a need for something to be between a 12-13 years old rating and a adults-only mature one. There's tons of mature games that aren't AO material but aren't suitable for 12 years old.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 5:49AM FuriousMailman said
@Ziphion
I see it as:
E = G
E10+ = PG
T = M
M = MA15+
AO = R18+
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I see it as:
E = G
E10+ = PG
T = M
M = MA15+
AO = R18+
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 7:15AM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
@Ncrdrg
This looks like a maths lesson :/
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This looks like a maths lesson :/
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 7:14AM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
Every day I am thankful I grew up in the UK.
Seeing whats going on in Korea, Japan, Austrailia, Mexico, China and several other places (different issues) jeez, we have a good life :D
Seeing whats going on in Korea, Japan, Austrailia, Mexico, China and several other places (different issues) jeez, we have a good life :D
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 8:29AM Lucky The Fox said
@Spunky Monkey 190906 And still, you couldn't play Carmageddon without replacing the pedestrians with zombies.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2010 8:38AM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
@Spunky Monkey 190906
Considering that not only was that years ago when 18+ games were more controversial and the fact it was a mere one game, that was later let through the ratings board and the humans put back in. I fail to see how that's an issue worth discussing. :)
The only game related issue I can say we have at the moment is the lack of tax breaks for aspiring developers, but thats not something that can't be changed if more people stood up for thier rights and demanded it.
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Considering that not only was that years ago when 18+ games were more controversial and the fact it was a mere one game, that was later let through the ratings board and the humans put back in. I fail to see how that's an issue worth discussing. :)
The only game related issue I can say we have at the moment is the lack of tax breaks for aspiring developers, but thats not something that can't be changed if more people stood up for thier rights and demanded it.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 8:57AM Batzarro The worlds WOrst Detect said
Children in Australia shouldn't be play too many games anyway. They instead should do physical activity like swimming(in box jellyfish infested waters) running(away from Dingos) or good old fashioned fishing(in croc filled waters).
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 9:34AM benheck said
Oh, so now games are only for Adults or Children? Sorry teenagers, you're out of luck. No Uncharted, just Mario.
Some Gamestop employee should do a documentary where he secretly films every 40 year old soccer mom/grandma who buys a M rated game for the 10 year old standing beside her, edit it into a montage, and mail it to Arnold and the Supreme Court.
I bet it would be a long-ass movie.
Some Gamestop employee should do a documentary where he secretly films every 40 year old soccer mom/grandma who buys a M rated game for the 10 year old standing beside her, edit it into a montage, and mail it to Arnold and the Supreme Court.
I bet it would be a long-ass movie.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 1:55PM Decanus said
so the Aussie government thinks Aussie adults cannot read the numbers on the package, wow i thought parents can make there own minds up so much for freedom
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 4:14PM Captain Underpants said
They just can't stop mucking with things, can they? The point is we need a MORE finely graded, and therefore more flexible and robust rating system, not less. It's like politicians can't justify their own existence unless they come up with 'ideas'. THAT'S NOT YOUR JOB. Your job is to represent and enact the will of the people. Nothing more. Talk about getting ideas above their station. The 98% approval for the R18+ rating should be all they need to proceed. All this 'debating' is anti-democratic. The debate is over guys, the people have made their choice, now stop mucking around and just do it.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 6:22PM Fuzunga said
Wow the Australian rating system is much more confusing than the American one.
Posted: Dec 15th 2010 6:47PM Playace said
Only, it doesn't make a bit of difference guys, the balls are inert!






