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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 7:30PM AltairtheAssassinwhokillstuff said

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@sdfsdfsdg
*stab*
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:39PM KinseySS said

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Well put! What a great review

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:50PM The angry pro consumer gaming ga said

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@KinseySS Yes, thankyou Joystiq for realizing how much a a gem Heavy Rain is. Yes it had it problems, but overall the game was fun and different which is what developers should try.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:15PM bigwhiteyeti said

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@The angry pro consumer gaming ga
I agree. I was afraid no one would recognize it. This is one of my top 10 for this year personally, not for being the best game, but because it gave me an experience unlike any I'd ever had before.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 8:19AM Haizeus said

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@KinseySS


While I don't really agree with the choice (this coming from someone that absolutely adored Indigo Prophecy), it's certainly an interesting one. Kudos to Joystiq for picking something just off the norm.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:40PM liam said

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Jayyyysunnnn.

Surprised to see this here! I wonder if this is the one Justin was angry about..

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:43PM Ludwig Kietzmann said

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@liam

You know it. :)
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:44PM liam said

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@Ludwig Kietzmann

Part of me was secretly hoping it was going to be Final Fantasy 13.. I know just how much that would have killed him to see it in the top 10.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:44PM rTwelve said

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@liam it's probably castlevania
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:45PM rTwelve said

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@rTwelve never mind.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:55PM The angry pro consumer gaming ga said

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@liam If you're suprised, then you didn't play the game. It was fun, terrific music, great atmosphere, and more importantly different in a generation full of FPS.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:40PM xpopularstranger said

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awesome game, rented and finished when it first came out. whenever it goes classic i'll probably buy it

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:41PM Fausk said

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Glad to see this game represented. It really is amazing how much they were able to accomplish, despite a few shortcomings in the plot, that many have described.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:45PM Phegan said

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@Fausk Wait, isn't Heavy Rain all plot?
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:06PM EncodedNybble said

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@Phegan

Not to me. I had fun investigating scenes trying to see what clues were left behind and the 'finder twister' positions that the game put my hands in were actually kind of fun in a way.

That and the concept of no restarts, no checkpoints to reload from, large character deaths possible was very innovative to me and had nothing to do with the plot. That was a pure game design choice right there.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:13PM copa said

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@Phegan

Phegan kind of nailed it. Aside from the plot, and the voice acting, and the controls, and the gameplay, Heavy Rain was a terrific game.

If it sounds like I'm being a dick, I'm not this time. I really enjoyed every minute of Heavy Rain. It is so creative and immersive that it ends up being much better than the sum of its parts. It's on my Top 10 list as well.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 10:20PM chuckharms said

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@Phegan Yes, with many, many holes.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:41PM gaboose said

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I think Heavy Rain is a really interesting choice, as some loved it and others just laughed at it.

I can't wait to see what else Joystiq has chosen for the best of 2010!

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:41PM elusiveaura said

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Yes. I too loved this game. Very good. I want to purchase it just to try it with the move controls.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:49PM profeteer said

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@elusiveaura

I actually like the game better with the controller. The move actions tend to be tedious and require you to be too exact.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:55PM LockeDaemonfire said

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@profeteer

I liked the Move controls even though I'll admit it was easier to mess the commands up (they're a little finicky). To me, it made playing it again feel new enough that it wasn't a chore to finish up the platinum.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:42PM The Tim said

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Whenever I do finally get a PS3, this is one of the games I want to play. It seemed to be one of the more interesting exclusives to me.

Posted: Dec 30th 2010 12:19AM Cavall said

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@The Tim You are making 2 good choices then. PS3 and Heavy Rain.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 1:04AM ItsameMatt03 said

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@The Tim

Trust me, when you get a PS3 the only games you need are both Uncharted games, Ratchet and Clank, InFamous, and maybe LittleBigPlanet. Heavy Rain is a big waste or time when there's so much else to play across all the systems.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:45PM HardBoiled2009 said

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Heavy Rain was my GOTY personally, I needed something new and unique to play and i love the characters and The Mall part

JASON !

anyways i liked how you could interact with alot of things within the game.... it's just sad that we only had the one DLC and tho the others were shelved cause of the Move Controls implemented ( which kinda sucks but it brings a new way to play it none the less ) is still is a great game and a memorable one for me !

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:55PM Tradio said

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@HardBoiled2009 heavy rain was my GOTY as well, real sad that the DLC or any chance of a sequel got scrapped
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 6:52PM Liquidfingers said

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@Tradio

where did you hear that any chance of a sequel got scrapped? was cage not interested?
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 1:35PM JasonA said

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@HardBoiled2009

My GOTY also. I have never before been even close to this involved and concerned about the characters in a game before.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:46PM AwesomeTown said

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While I'm not really a fan quick time events, I am a fan of adventure games and great narratives. That's why I really enjoyed Heavy Rain and previously Indigo Prophecy. They really hooked me in, and while it is not the best game of the year, it was very memorable.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:47PM Marshillboy said

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Hahaha oh man. No wonder online blogs don't have any credibility

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:50PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said

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@Marshillboy

And yet you keep coming back.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:56PM Marshillboy said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze

People read playboy too, but it doesn't mean that the articles aren't crap
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:01PM LockeDaemonfire said

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@Marshillboy

The articles here are excellent, go away.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 6:15PM branDONEson said

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@Marshillboy wait so you come here for the pictures?
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:50PM Jaclo said

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While Heavy Rain provided me with some of 2010's most memorable gaming moments, I cannot say that this was one of the best games of 2010. Taking everything into consideration, (music, voice-overs, controls, plot, gameplay, etc...) one has to admit that there were easily ten games that were better in 2010.

Therefore, this cannot be one of the BEST TEN games of 2010.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:50PM Faceless Troll said

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As far as I'm concerned nothing tops Yakuza 3 for my GOTY of 2010.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:54PM The angry pro consumer gaming ga said

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@Faceless Troll Good choice, I really loved Yakuza and Heavy Rain both really underappreciated games that everyone should experience, even if they're not for everyone.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:50PM PercyChuggs said

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This was my favorite game of the year. In 15 years, I won't remember anything that happened in RDR or Mass Effect 2 or really any other game. I will, however, still remember basically everything about Heavy Rain.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:50PM ChuckBartowskiX said

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INB4 Mass Effect 2 GOTY

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:51PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said

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Amazing game, glad to see it get some love from (most of) the crew. :)

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:51PM The Pork said

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Interesting? Yes. Good? No. Heavy Rain certainly has its moments, but I feel like I'm the only one on the planet who sees this as nothing more than what it is - a glorified 'Saw' movie. And please, before downvoting, I'm not here to troll - just putting my two cents worth in. The car chase sequence was one section that I genuinely enjoyed, but once the plot started going truly toward the silly and bizarre, I felt more than disappointed.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:00PM HardBoiled2009 said

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@The Pork

A Glorified Saw Movie ? i'm sorry i have to disagree with you. if it was just a plain movie to watch yea but it's a video game ... A Interactive Drama and it's great to play something you don't get too much of it's not a Third Person Shooter or FPS or RPG it was something we don't get much of; i'm sorry you don't like it
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:21PM The Pork said

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@HardBoiled2009

An interactive drama where a guy cuts his fingers off and walks through electrical fences? Sheesh. I was trying to avoid sounding like a snob in my first post, but I got downvoted regardless, so here goes: the plot of this game is, to put it mildly, rubbish. Yes, they were trying to do something different, and they should be commended for that, but different doesn't automatically equal good. I never, ever said a game has to be an FPS or an RPG to be good (one of my favourite games this year is Kirby's Epic Yarn). Aaanywho ... to each their own, I s'pose.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:46PM SnorlaxTheSerialKiller said

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@The Pork

'I was trying to avoid sounding like a snob in my first post, but I got downvoted regardless,'

It amazes me that people care about downvotes.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 6:03PM Bjork said

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@The Pork

Is the plot really the only problem you have with the game? Of course the plot is golden egg material. Golden egg material has, for the most part, already been written / told in some form or another. What sets Heavy Rain apart from other games is, as everybody else has already mentioned, it's interactivity. Electric fences, driving through reverse traffic, etc., those aren't experiences normal people would do in real life, so Heavy Rain offers an interactive way to do that. The concept isn't all that different from wielding swords, casting magic, shooting guns, swinging through vines, jumping on goombas, etc, but it's represented in a much different way and should be applauded for that.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:52PM Frostfell said

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Juuuussstiinn probably didn't support this choice.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:52PM The angry pro consumer gaming ga said

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If you're suprised, then you didn't play the game. It was fun, terrific music, great atmosphere, and more importantly different in a generation full of FPS.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 4:55PM EncodedNybble said

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Well put, the plot holes are there (perhaps the now cancelled DLC was supposed to explain the plot holes like WTF does Ethan go when he blacks out) as are the super French accents but overall the game made me care more about its characters than a lot of other games.

That and the story, plot holes included, was still leaps and bounds better than the majority of other games' plots. When plots for those games (fighting games, mario games, etc.) are discussed, most people just say "only game play matters!" I understand that HR is a more plot driven game than other games (though the gameplay mechanics of twisting your fingers in the strange positions wasn't bad IMO) and thus the story should be better than most other games, but the story IS better than most other games. It's not flawless by any means, I just don't understand the pure amount of hate. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:05PM TheDarkWayne said

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@(Unverified) SPOILERS Well, in my opinion at least, I really don't think it was that great of a plot. Even aside from plot holes, it was just uninspired and cliched in every manner. Most of the plot holes were easy enough to deal with, but when you play as and specifically have a button that tells you the thoughts of the person who actually is the killer, but never thinks anything about that? Ridiculous. It might have been more serious, focused and detailed than most game plots, but it really wasn't any better than most games that at least try to have a story.

More importantly than that though, was that it tried to be a unique story telling game, by abandoning the things that make it a game. Games like Mass Effect 2, Eternal Darkness, Uncharted 2, Half -Life 2and others have stories so great because of things only video games can do. Heavy Rain might have had lots of choices and things, but they were almost completely bereft of gameplay, like it was ashamed of being a game. The things that Eternal Darkness does could absolutely not be done in a movie, but Heavy Rain was basically a long movie with some interactivity, and a bad movie at that.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 5:23PM EncodedNybble said

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@TheDarkWayne

Well, what makes a game? To me, at a very low level a game is something that, through interaction via player, the overall plot/action changes, thus no 2 'playthroughs' will ever be exactly alike and will bring different feelings to the player.

Now, there are different types of gameplay. Most of the gameplay in games out now involve a lot of physical involvement (can I shoot the enemy fast enough/press the button fast enough/run quickly enough/dodge enough enemy fire) as well as decision making (what do I level up/what attack to use/etc.). I will agree that HR's "physical button pressing" type gameplay isn't terribly complicated or deep, it is still there. I will argue that HR has much more emphasis on the decision making aspects of gameplay.

In *most* games, your decisions really only affect on making the physical button pressing gameplay easier and very rarely alters the overall narrative. If you use a certain weapon/spell then this boss is beaten in 10 seconds instead of 2 minutes because you hit his weak point for MASSIVE DAMAGE. In HR, at least to me, the decision making gameplay aspect affected the narrative more and the button pressing less.

I simply think HR sort of turned most games around. Most games give you lots of choices on what your character does RIGHT NOW. Jump on the turtle, use this item, etc. These choices are fun to do and experiment with but the narrative remains the same. HR to me gave a more limited set of choices to do RIGHT NOW but opened up the narrative more.

That's my take on it at least.

*SPOILERS*

And come on man, you can't honestly expect them to put thoughts into the killer's head which you can listen to to give away the plot early in the game do you? Sure the killer could have been made someone else and this situation could have been avoided but I guess they wanted a plot twist.
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