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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 8:42PM ShadowXIII said

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Holy hell!

I said it from the very beginning....they should have left OtherOS alone.

At this point they might as well say "f#%k it" and just put it back now along with all the other revoked functions to lessen the blow.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 10:28PM RedViv said

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@ShadowXIII
You do know that they removed the OtherOS thingie to prevent an easier exploit, and that this would have happened anyway, right?


That said, screw their toffee-nosed talk about how they only want Linux back. They know very well that people will use this to run games they have not bought or otherwise legally acquired.
Bunch of hypocritical langers.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 11:14PM gosugosu said

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@RedViv what makes them hypocrites do you have any proof i dont think so as it is only unveiling
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 9:06AM RedViv said

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@gosugosu
You have to be kidding me. Of course they know that the ability to circumvent a copy protection measure will lead to illegal abuse. It's just that they don't care, and they can hide behind their "We only want Linux back!" façade.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 10:49AM solidunit said

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You can pirate games on the 360 and you can hack SOME 360's to run homebrew. Has that "ruined" the online gaming environment on the 360 or prevented people from purchasing tons of copies of Black Ops or Reach?
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 1:10PM BigEgo007 said

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@ShadowXIII

Yes, I agree. The hackers should have left Other OS alone and maybe we would still have it. You did mean hackers right?
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Posted: Dec 31st 2010 12:40PM ShadowXIII said

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@BigEgo007

Both...but truthfully, what have the hackers ever done to you personally?
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 9:04PM RoyalYeo said

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well i have a ps3 and its already jailbroken and its not all about piracy there a n64 ,gba . game boy color and snes emudor fully and there aslo a ds emulador , who would love to play ds on their ps3 i think alot of people would

Posted: Dec 30th 2010 10:53AM HM79 said

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@RoyalYeo

If I'm deciphering your terrible grammar correctly (and I'm not even sure that I am) you're saying that it's NOT all about piracy while in the very same sentence explaining that you love to play emulated (a.k.a. illegal/pirated) games!

Please change your name to RoyalMoron and refrain from posting ever again.

Game piracy hurts everyone, but it hurts the game developers the most. When you pirate games, the developers lose profits, then they shut down, leading to fewer and fewer studios. It's no different than walking into a store and stealing a game. It's illegal!

DEATH TO ALL PIRATES!
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 12:01PM muzicman said

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@RoyalYeo you do realize that is piracy right?
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 9:53PM xiLeShadow said

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Ummm....so if this hack is true, which I think it is, will I be able to install a Cross-Game Chat feature into my ps3?

That would sweet!! but I still wouldn't play more....

and No I don't pirate, if I wanted to, I could since I'm a PC Gamer but

I LOVE GOOD GAMES!! and not paying for my half would = a not so good game.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 10:30PM Bardbarian said

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@xiLeShadow

In theory? Yes. In practice? Not so much.

Cross-game chat is in the firmware and it has been for some time now. It simply isn't turned-on at the end-user level.

Regardless of which conspiracy one believes in terms of why it isn't turned-on yet for users the bottomline is that with cross-game chat comes a memory requirement and a bandwidth requirement and if a game is tightly constrained in either of those areas then it could very well 'break' said game without a patch. (apparently something which many developers/publishers are unwilling or unable to do)
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 10:55PM Lekko said

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It would be pretty epic if somehow the PS3 could emulate the Wii w/move support.

You have to admit, that would be pretty damn.. something. Ironic? I don't know.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 11:15PM McDuckScrooged said

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Sony are completely and utterly screwed, the funny thing is that I think they deserve this..

Removing otheros was guaranteed to piss off a whole lot of people, they did it anyway and low and behold the whole security is cracked wide open..

The guy talking at the end was a bit of a douche and probably contributed the least.

Considering the initial design was to allow otheros to run, the hypervisor was obviously designed for that purpose and not security, this was a given, so no real surprise.. They probably didn't use a random number for some other reason, maybe a government back door, not sure something political (company or state) probably rather than a failure..

Honestly though Sony deserved this, the moment they decided to pull a feature they initially promised is the moment this was guaranteed to happen. I said this would happen about a year ago everyone who had half a clue said this was going to happen low and behold it happens.


There is no recovery from this they have the Private keys its game over, nothing Sony can do now other than pray its not used for rampant piracy but its pretty much guaranteed to be used for that exact purpose.

only real positive to take from this is that the ps3 sales will be huge as everyone who buys a ps3 will know its easily crackable. The other thing that this guarantees is the ramp up of the ps4 production, if Sony were planning to delay the ps4, I doubt they are now.. I bet the PS4 will be released by the end of 2012 now.

Posted: Dec 29th 2010 11:43PM mmmfishtacos said

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I want to punch the skinny douche bag in the face. But on another note, the very end. Oh we wanted to show you how it works, but can't. I smell a huge bluff.

Posted: Dec 30th 2010 10:52AM solidunit said

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@mmmfishtacos I'm guessing you don't know who they are or are familiar with the conference they are speaking at.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 11:40AM mmmfishtacos said

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@solidunit No, I do. It just that if I where going to do it I would have started with a demo and then had a rundown of how the things works. They knew this would catch Sony's attention. They act all cocky about it. They went as far to say, so we never looked in to cracking it before. I call bullshit on that as well. Part of the fun for them is to crack it. Who cares if it ran limux out of the box. It was half assed at best when it did. So why not crack it to give full access. Reason 1. cause they couldn't figure it out. It took them 4 years, and now they act like it's garbage. When in fact it isn't. No matter what they say, it's kept them out the longest.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 11:43PM octoberasian said

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I applaud these guys for their effort at getting the PS3 hacked. And, I applaud Sony for getting the console to be the most secure console... of the last 4 years. However, one mistake in their private key has changed all that.

Sadly, this cannot be patched if I understood it correctly. Patching this by changing the private key would require a change in the hardware which would also nullify any existing software and game released since the PS3's launch. If Sony were to do that, they'd screw over every person that owns a PS3 as the existing private key would be useless on a new console.

Thus, this gets to the question of piracy. With a private key in hand, you can now sign any program coded for the PS3 and the system will run it as if it were a PS3 game without issue. This same method, IN THEORY, can be used to sign PS3 ISOs and let them run off burned Bluray discs. This basically paves the way to PS3 piracy just as it has been done before with the PS2.

And, unfortunately, Sony can't do anything to stop this without altering the private key which would stop every current and past PS3 game from running.

Posted: Dec 30th 2010 12:27AM Hunter141072 said

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@octoberasian


This is the SAME story that happened with the ps1, as soon as that console was cracked everybody wanted it. Seriously does anybody thinks that the xbox has sold those numbers just for the games?? of course this also means that just like it happened with the ps there are going to be a lot of garbage games for the console, but hey!! sony is going to FINALLY sell some big numbers outside japan, i wonder if they are really that mad??? also, it´s very funny that they leaved such an open spot on their console and their team didn´t noticed??? well, i always thought that the original chip for the ps and ps2 were really created by sony just to sell more consoles, who knows????
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 9:43AM Raptaur said

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@(Unverified)

Its probably that they did know about it, just that they couldn't do anything about it for the same reason they can't do anything about it now.

Best they could hope for was that noone would notice
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 2:08AM theultimate13x said

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This is a blessing and a curse.

So it seems that the PS3 will be able to use Linux program again but unfortunately at the cost of the user using PS2's PSN.

That to me does not seem worth it.

Posted: Dec 30th 2010 10:00AM SamE said

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Whether or not you approve of piracy, I think we can all agree a hombrew app for a universal media player would be excellent.

Posted: Dec 31st 2010 12:42PM ShadowXIII said

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@SamE

^ This. Or at least recognition to convert if it just simply can't do it.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 12:19PM mmmfishtacos said

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk8QBtKmIjc, Okay he's there little demo, they can get it to boot but that's it. No video or anything else. It seems they claimed victory a little too early. I call epic fail or their part.

Posted: Dec 30th 2010 6:25PM AntiSniperSpy said

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@mmmfishtacos LOL they failed because they cant get the video ram working. It is still running Linux which needed to be signed to load on the PS3. == WIN
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 7:23PM mmmfishtacos said

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@AntiSniperSpy not to mention loads of other stuff they said they don't know how do do yet. So in the end. fail. Untill they have it complete they shouldn't claim victory on anything. That like starting the frist level of a game and going shit this is too easy, I win!
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 8:19PM AntiSniperSpy said

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@mmmfishtacos I think the whole point was too run Linux from the flash. Which they did do. And yes they did go a bit overboard with the word fail. But the same random number in the crypto is just really sad for sony.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 9:25PM mmmfishtacos said

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@AntiSniperSpy agreed, but we don't know why Sony did that, It wasn't some mistake it was done on propose. They even said them self's that Sony leaked their formula. So in other words they really haven't really hacked anything.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2010 6:03PM Windmill said

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Gosh these guys are amazingly intelligent.

If this means I get to use their amazing tools and hack my PS3, WOOHOO. Bring it on. I'll even buy a new PS3 if the slim will take better to the modding.

Posted: Dec 30th 2010 9:21PM finalight said

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well...most of you people don't care about piracy and might even hate piracy

but in other countries, we need piracy in order to raise the sales of the consoles..if not, we won't even consider buying that

so just let piracy flow out like water and i will get a console soon..

of course i would buy some original games...hehe, but then again..how many is up to me..maybe only 1.?

Posted: Dec 31st 2010 7:00AM brandonheat said

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This hack sucks balls plain and simple no matter the reason they did it. Sure they "wanted linux back on the ps3" but, at what cost? This is gonna screw the legitimate user of the PS3 over big time. The PS3 is basically a PC without a firewall or any kind of protection right now. Basically once the "hackers" get to work anyone can write anything they want to the PS3 and Sony can't stop it because it all looks official because they have the master key. its basically open season it can go from the light stuff light putting linux back on the ps3 or running emulators to the extremes of every game released so far being easily pirateable and massive amounts of online cheating to someone writing viruses for the ps3 to some writing programs to steal peoples info of of psn. No one in the general public realizes how serious this is. Its a bad situation for anyone who has any kind of investment in the ps3 that means users, developers, and especially sony.

These smug aholes just opened up millions of people to at least alot of inconvience because they wanted linux back. sony is surely gonna have to inact a new form of security. get used to one time use codes like EA uses on their games with online and much harsher drm.

Anyone who says all of this started because they removed other os is just plain stupid or lying to themselves because these aholes would still be twiddling their thumbs playing their hacked wii's and furiously masterbating to online porn if someone at a sony factory had not been paid off and handed over one of sony's service dongles effectivly starting all this bs. anyway I hope they enjoy having their linux back on the ps3 all this latest round of who can be the biggest ahole means is PS4 in late 2012 with a good possibility of the system not being backwards compatible with the PS3 because some people wanted linux back on the ps3

Posted: Dec 31st 2010 10:59AM mmmfishtacos said

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@brandonheat this /\
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