Withstand a Bulletstorm on your PC with these system requirements

@future42

"Mine" as in my computer of course.

@Prboi If you miss one of these requirements, you should probably get a PC that isn't 7 years old.

@Prboi

Unless you already have your set up, then you've already went through the hassle & now you have to maintain it.

@Prboi I've had my pc setup as is (beats these requirements) for 3 years now and it'll continue to run flawlessly for many years more.. but whats nice is that opposed to having to buy a whole new system when a more demanding game comes out.. all I'll have to do is upgrade a part or two and im set.

@wcarnation

When I meant "these", I meant system requirements for games in general

@u83rmensch

Which would run you into the money hassle again. Having to spend a pretty penny to continue playing games.

@Prboi I'd also like to say on the flipside, that PC gaming allows you to play games how they were NOT intended. The joys of modding!

@Prboi

Almost every new PC these days is sold with 4GB+ of ram and a dual/quad core CPU (that should at least come close to the recommended spec). A new video card can be had for anywhere between $120 (radeon that meets this recommended spec) to $185 (high-end geforce card). Putting that card in a $500 computer (and possibly getting a $30-40 PSU) will easily let you max this game and almost every other game at a decent resolution.

Anyone who buys a brand new computer every time a big name game/part comes out is either able to live comfortably or stupid.

@Prboi yeah I agree this is true but there are many benefits to having a PC discounts,community,web surfuing,modding,and even you may even need a PC to mod a console. but I don't know where to buy good PC parts :( or how to build one~!

@Prboi Hey, uh, PS3 and 360 don't run games on Max settings. That is how a game is meant to be played.

@wcarnation Or stick with the console he already has, as opposed to spending hundreds of dollars for just one game.

@sonicspike41

Just built a new rig with a quad core processor and a Radeon HD 6850 for a little over 600 bucks. It runs everything smooth as silk with vertical sync on and the components I picked make for easy upgradeability. People who say PC gaming is too expensive are living in the past now, and it's super simple to put them together yourself anyway. Most components really only fit in one way. If you can add up the voltage of your parts and buy a capable power supply, you can build a great machine.

@ShingoEX If you're spending hundreds of dollars to upgrade your computer for one game and one game alone, then you aren't a serious gamer and are either a complete fool with money or are Bill Gates rich.

@JnRx

Newegg.com is your friend. I just built a PC, and the components nowadays only really fit in one way. If you can add, and you have a few hundred bucks, you can build a damn good pc. If you have no idea where to start, check out http://www.build-gaming-computers.com/

@Ellimem

Max Settings aren't really "Max". Just a faster framerate & sharpness. That's all. PC games already have a super fast reticule. There's no such thing as "Max" settings for a game, they just run faster because you're computer is beefed up which I'm guessing didn't come cheap.

@bigwhiteyeti

Not everyone is good at following instructions. Hell, I know people who can't even put a kite together let alone a computer. 600 dollars may be cheap for you, but the rest of us who actually were hit pretty hard by the collapsing economy don't feel the same. Stop generalizing because you can spend a little over 600 bucks on a computer while 80 percent of people can't.

@Prboi No...they're definitely better on the PC on max. Not to mention all the customization options like field of view, resolution, and being able to set your own key bindings. Hell, you could even use an Xbox controller if you really wanted to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GssmezhwzI&feature=related

@Prboi If you don't know how to follow instructions and put a kite together, then you have other problems that are more important than putting a computer together. Also, a good computer doesn't cost $600. Here, I'll do some research for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-1333MHz-LGA775-BX80570E8400/dp/B00116SLYY - Intel Core 2 Duo 3GHz just fine for most games on today's market $169.99 free shipping

http://www.amazon.com/PNY-1024MB-PCI-Express-Graphics-VCGGTS4501XPB/dp/B0041HN6P4 - PNY XLR8 GTS 450 a fine graphics card for the person just getting into PC gaming $122.99 free shipping

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-G31TM-P21-Intel-Micro-Motherboard/dp/B002HKHP5Y - An OK motherboard. Only two RAM slots, but it's a good start for the PC gamer on a budget. $47.49 free shipping

@YimYimYimi
http://www.gadgetboost.com/products/Dynex-DX-400WPS-400-Watt-ATX-PCIe-SATA-PC-Power-Supply - A cheap 400w power supply. Has worked perfect for me since I got it. $19.99 not sure on shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145590 - Two 1GB DDR2 RAM. Two sticks of 1GB of RAM is perfect for the motherboard previously mentioned. $39.99 with 2.99 S&H

I'm pretty sure you'd already have a monitor, but they range in quality and price vastly and I wouldn't know where to begin to look.

So, altogether, that costs $403.44. You may not even need to buy all of those components. Use some of the parts that are currently in your system. I am using a Core 2 Duo from another computer that I had lying around, RAM too. You can use your current hard drive as well. It really isn't as hard as you think.

@Prboi Ok compare metro 2033 max settings on a pc to the xbox version. tell me you don't see a difference.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1620/metro2033vgl41.jpg

@Prboi

Do you even know what max settings means? Its cute when idiots try to voice their oppinions without having their facts straight.

@gonintendo
Its darker, almost as if they forgot or neglected to put the light in on the xbox port. Your point is?

@canajew To keep the framerate at a steady, acceptable rate, the lighting had to be sacrificed. On the PC the lighting can be maxed out because the hardware is more powerful.

@YimYimYimi

thats a really piss poor comparison screenshot, there are a ton of other things besides lighting that are completely different/better in the PC version

@u83rmensch

Even though that sounds reasonable, at least where I live, that "part or two" ends up costing as much if not more than the new system...

@lionsuki I agree, it is a poor comparison. Not what I would've chosen.

@Prboi lol? that's just ignorance at it's greatest. i built my PC in 2007 and only changed my video card which was 100 dollars (GTX260) last year (i know where to shop). My friend has gone through 3 xboxs in that time which for some reason cost 2-3 times that much..even though the entire system in parts is probably worth 30 dollars now.

Anyway, there is no "maintenance" for anyone with half a brain when it comes to PCs. The only issues anyone I know every has with PCs is hardware or they're idiots and go around clicking every thing they see.

Also, ot play the most intense games now days..thanks to consoles holding us back; you only need like a 50-70 dollar video card. If ANYTHING ELSE is out of date...then you're just epic lazy and/or too poor to afford consoles as well. dual cores capable of running nearly every game are very cheap now, ram has been cheap for years. Hell you can get a PC twice as good as an 360/ps3 for like 50-100 dollars more.

If anything what you stated was the biggest downside of consoles...their limitations hold back the progress of video games. Instead of improving physics/graphics anymore all we get are gimmick controls (that a few people have been using on PC for half a decade). Thanks consoles.

@Prboi You're actually pretty much right. Not sure why people argue this point. PC games are indeed more expensive and more difficult to maintain. Whether or not this would mean that they are inferior is subjective. In order to claim these criteria to be bullet points in console domination, you would have to assume that the person who's weighing the advantages to be impoverished, casual, and computer illiterate.

The way I look at it, people using this as an argument are pretty much saying, "Oh yeah? Well your Jaguar sports car is more expensive and harder to maintain than my KIA minivan." Which is a valid argument, but if you're an person that can afford the former, and know how to and/or enjoys properly maintaining it, the choice is pretty obvious.

@YimYimYimi

Agreed, this setup is just fine. Mine has 4GB ram and more expensive motherboard (plus case and a bigger power supply). If you just need a mid level computer, you can spend even less. 600 dollars can let you max everything out at 1080p, which is what my setup was.

@MeowingtonTCat

Thing is, PC gaming is cheaper. Few people have a console and not a PC. The cost of getting the PC up to top gaming standards is less than buying a PC and then a console just for games. Additionally, PC games are on average $20 cheaper than their console cousins ($10 for major titles) and drop in price faster. This means over 10 games, you'll have saved anywhere from $100-$200 in software.

Another misconception is that you have to run a PC game at maximum at all times. Console games don't drastically improve over 5 years like a PC game does. Compare a 2006 360 game to one this year and you won't see a massive improvement. Compare a 2006 PC game to one his year and you will. Buy a PC today and, just like a console, it will play new games at roughly the same quality as it did half a decade ago. And over 5 years, the software price differential will just get more extreme, so you could add another $500 onto the PC hardware and still come out even. Of course, more powerful hardware = longer life = greater lifetime price advantage.

It's all about total cost of ownership, and a PC, unless you run two GTX500 cards, is better.

@Prboi The only reason anybody would have to buy a new system every year( or anytime a new games comes out is if you buy laptops, even then you should be able to upgrade the RAM, the Hard Drive, and the CPU. Graphic upgrades to a laptop is impossible, unless you want to go out and buy an entirely new motherboard for your laptop, but with that comes compatibility problems with the size of the casing and the external adapter locations.
If you game on a laptop, it's no one elses fault but your own when it comes to staying with the times on hard ware.

@Prboi
"Hell, I know people who can't even put a kite together let alone a computer"
I've been building PCs for years and I'm still no good at making kites.

@andrewpoe

Just to point out buy a 4870 is more powerful then a 5640.

@This Little Man Says His Name Is

Actually, I just checked and it's a 5670

@andrewpoe just to inform you on how amd names their graphics cards:

5870

5= the series
8 = performance tier
70= performance tier within the performance tier

if you want to compare cards from multiple generations, you have to make sure they are in the same performance tier (the 2nd number)

ie the 5850 is better than the 4850 and the 4870 but you cant really compare the 5870 to the 4670, they are in different tiers, of course the 4670 is going to be a lot slower. To apply this to your situation, you can't just compare the numbers between a 4870 and a 5670 because they are in completely different tiers. the 4870 is in the performance tier and the 5670 is in the budget tier, and the 4870 actually out performs the 5670.

@gonintendo

Exactly. I have a 6850, which is actually weaker than a 5850. Which is kinda weird. In theory it should be more. These guidelines help. The best set up you can get with ATI cards right now is to xCrossfire two 5970s. And that's waaaaaay overkill for every game out there.

@bigwhiteyeti ATI decided to change tiers on the the HD 6xxx series, so now 68xx is mid tier and 69xx is high tier, while 57xx was mid tier and 58xx was high tier (5970 was double GPU IIRC)

still 68xx contends 58xx quite well, 68xx performance is very close to 58xx performance, but less power consumption and less heat, so I'd go with 68xx anytime before 58xx

@wcarnation

For PC games there's usually some kind of config or graphics engine ini file you can mess with. This is especially true in Unreal Engine games and can sometimes improve the feel of a game when using widescreen monitors.

@wcarnation Well, actually the difference between console games and PC games is that console versions of games are designed specifically for that hardware. The Xbox came out, what, 5 years ago? The only reason you're playing Black Ops at a solid 60 FPS is because the Xbox version is designed to use the Xbox hardware to it's max.

PC versions of games are designed to work with the almost infinite amount of computer configurations the best they can. If I tried to play Black Ops on a 5 year old PC, it would be terrible because the PC version of Black Ops is not specifically made to only work with that 5 year old hardware in that one kind of PC.

There's only one Xbox but there's hundreds of thousands of different computers with different hardware.

@YimYimYimi Black ops is horribly optimized. MW2 would run fine on that old pc (I know, i know, gimped online, but IW knows how to optimize a game)

@Ricky Bango

Heavily modified UT3 I believe.

Same thing Gears of War 3 runs on probably.