Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep: Volume 2 teased by Final Mix secret ending

@xHotPotatox

I hear that! Too much sidestory that probably won't even be important for KH3. Especially 358/2 Days' story. Ugh.

@xHotPotatox they said that KH 3d will be the last game till kh3 will that unless they decide to remake one of the games. I hope we don't get another Duke Nukam forever incident for KH3

@Airdemon Or a, there's so much sidestory that they decided to have play a role in the new game that I can't understand any of what is going on, situation.

@oJMan240o Is it strange that I read your post in a Squizgar Skwigelf voice?

@Jinketsu you obviously never played birth by sleep

@Airdemon

Your hoping that Kingdom Hearts 3 isn't so awesome and ambition that Square can not with all their resources and time developing such a game with current generation technology?

There certainly has to be some bright mind in Square since they can and will stamp out so many games and side games all the time :)

@antiZER0 I don't want to watch the video due to spoilers, but isn't there the possibility that this is a teaser for KHIII?

@I am a machineee
It's in Japanese and there really isn't anything major spoiler-wise that I can tell.
We know it's not for KH3 because it clearly states in English characters "Birth by Sleep -Volume Two-".

@Fallow

Obviously there must be some reason for you to buy a PS4.

@dagamer34

They'll still have stuff around then, I bought my PS3 for free online, Blu-ray, Final Fantasy, and Kingdom Hearts. So far, the last two parts of that four part equation are missing in action because FFXIII was a flop and KH doesn't even exist on current gen consoles. I want some of that now.

@CaptainProtonX

I think the folks in charge of Final Fantasy already won the sub-title battle.

@CaptainProtonX

3) Square wants to insert more of its crappy Host/Hostess characters, and not focus on new Disney worlds.

@CaptainProtonX 3) The people who want to develop Kingdom Hearts 3 are currently developing Final Fantasy Versus XIII

@Hi iTs SlayeR

I think being that SE already has FF on 360 & are developing more games for it, that KH3 will be on 360 & possibly Wii as well.

@Hi iTs SlayeR Days is already out. You missed Re: Coded.

But it doesn't matter, the Nintendo ones are generally poor games.

@GameJackal its only been on like 3 systems if you think about it: ps2, psp, and ds. thats not really "all over the place" (i know CoM was on the GBA, but it was remade for the ps2 so you can play it on either, and if you still have a non-DSi, you can still play it on a DS, so there)

@Angel Mass

in a nutshell? *spoilersI!* There's these really cool people, that defend the light. but there were bad guys too, that like darkness. and one super cool bad guy who liked both. they fight, and all get screwed, and somehow Sora becomes important. Then he has his own baddies to deal with that stemmed from the original baddy! And he has to rescue the original really cool people.

but before he can rescue the really cool people he has to take a test! KH3DS, then he can fight a big battle rescue everyone, KH3 and the end.

very convoluted :P

@Angel Mass
Noone can.

@Angel Mass

I may be wrong but from what I understand, Xenmas wants to create another Keyblade War like the one that took place before the games in order to open up Kingdom Hearts. Aqua, Ventus, and Terra are keyblade wielders who eventually put their lights/hearts/encouragement into Kairi, Sora, and Riku so that they will eventually save the world/become keyblade masters. Ventus goes into a deep sleep and is put into castle oblivion by Aqua to keep him hidden. Organization XIII is trying to find Ventus as his heart is a part of Sora's as well (I think. I'm not finished with 358/2 Days yet).

Eventually, Sora grows up and leaves Destiny Island in search of Riku and Kairi, slays Ansem, and is split from his friends again. However, because Sora became a heartless in KH1, Roxas was born and he joined Org. XIII. Whatever happens in 358/2 Days occurs and we go up to KHII, where Sora wakes up from the Castle Oblivion chamber after the events of Days and Chain of Memories.

In KHII, Sora kills all the other Org. XIII members and reunites with his friends once again. Now, I'm not sure, but I think that in KH3D:DDD, Sora and Riku are training for their Keyblade Mastery exams so that in KH3, they can either become masters or already be masters and put an end to Xenmas/Ansem's plans to revive Kingdom Hearts.

That's probably all wrong, but I've only played each game once when they originally came out, so my memory of these games isn't exactly amazing. Lots of stuff with heart splitting and evil Soras and kingdomheartswhereismyheart and yeah.

@Angel Mass

Every time somebody tells me the story in a JRPG is awesome I ask them to explain it. Somewhere after the 3rd sentence you can see an expression on their face that says "I just realized this is stupid and makes no sense". Then they say something like "well it is complicated".

@Angel Mass ok here goes, test of fanboyness accepted. I'll try and go chronologically.

BBS: Long ago a collection of heros wielded "Keyblades", magical swords that could unlock anything imaginable which they used to defend the many worlds. They fought a huuuuuuge war over the best keyblade, called the X-Blade, and most of them died in the process. Flash forward, there are now 5 remaining wielders. Master Eraqus (good), Master Xeahnort (bad), and 3 trainees: Aqua, Terra, and Ventus. Ven used to be Xeahnort's apprentice, but master X ripped his heart in good and evil halves (Evil Half turned into Vanitas) . Ven lost his memory and became Eraqus's apprentice instead. Aqua passes a test to become a master, but Terra fails because "there's darkness in his heart" Afterwords they all go off adventuring, which was orchestrated by Xeahnort. The adventures are the bulk of the BBS story. At some point, all 3 of them get to Destiny Islands, home of Sora and Riku, and Terra gives Riku the ability to use the Keyblade when he grows up. Master X manipulates Terra into using darkness and killing Master Eraqus. The three of them come together to try and kill Master X when they figure out he and Vanitas caused everything, but in a nutshell they fail pretty bad. Turns out Master X made Terra evil so he could take control of his young body, and separated Ven into good and evil halves so that when they fought, the X-Blade would be "forged". He succeeds in controlling Terra, but Ven defeats Vanitas in his heart, but since he was a part of his heart, he falls into a coma. Aqua destroys the X-Blade, there's a big explosion, Terra-xeahnort looses his memory as well, and Aqua and a comatose Ven get rescued by Mickey. Aqua fights the memoryless Terra-xeahnort and wins, but when his body falls into darkness, she sacrifices herself to bring Terra-xeahnort back into the real world. She gets stuck in darkness, and back in the real world, Terra-nhort gets found by Ansem the wise, a scientist, and trained as his apprentice. Meanwhile Ven, still unconscious, keeps his heart by linking it with kid Sora. End BBS

I'll post the other games in a few minutes. Obviously, this is very convoluted lol.

@Lyon Artime
Pre-KH1, but no game yet (this is going to most likely be BBS2)
So Xeahnort, under Ansem, starts doing dangerous experiments with a number of other assistants. He accidentally unleashes the Heatless onto the world, and willingly gives up his heart for power. Now, when someone looses their heart, and heartless is created (main KH enemies) and, if the person attacked was strong enough, a Nobody is created. Essentially a soulless shell of a person (main KH2 enemies). Xeahnort's Heartless continues his "research" and steals the name Ansem from his teacher after Ansem gets lost in darkness. Xeahnort's Nobody joins the Nobodies of his previous assistants, takes on the name Xemnas, and creates Organization XIII, a union of the most powerful nobodies, all bent on getting hearts back.

Ok, KH 1 time.

So Sora and Riku gets older, and eventually a girl named Kairi shows up as a kid too. They play around on destiny islands, Sora starts having "weird dreams", and Riku, with all of his desire to get off the island, starts acting evil. He accidentally opens the "door to darkness", which begins to consume their island. At this point, Riku was meant to acquire the Keyblade Terra had given him when he was a boy, but since he turned evil, and since Sora had a piece of Ven's heart inside him, It goes to Sora instead. Kairi looses her heart which gets trapped inside Sora's, and Sora is sent to Traverse Town, where he meets Donald and Goofy (King Mickey's lackeys who were told to look for the Keyblade by Mickey before he left to try and fix problems caused by the Heartless) and they all set off to look for Mickey, Riku, and Kairi. This is the bulk of the KH1 story. Riku finds Kairi's body with no heart, starts being more evil, and gets taken over by Ansem, "seeker of darkness" (xeahnort's heartless). Riku and Sora fight, Sora wins, but Ansem stays in control of Riku, just taking his true form. At this point Sora realizes that Kairi's heart is inside of his own, and unlocks his heart to bring Kairi back to life, turning himself into a heartless at the same time. (BIG PLOT POINT: Sora also created a nobody here named Roxas, who looks like Ventus. more on him later) Kairi somehow miraculously turns Sora back into a normal person, and Sora pursues Ansem toward the end of the world, where all of the worlds the heartless consumed went. Ansem finds Kingdom Hearts, the heart of all worlds, and attempts to use its power for himself. He and Sora fight, Sora wins, and when Ansem tries to use Kingdom Hearts, it kills him instead, because "kingdom hearts is light". Riku gets in control of himself again, and the group finds Mickey inside Kingdom Hearts. They work together to close it again, locking Riku and Mickey on the other side. All the worlds the Heartless consumed come back, including Destiny Islands, and Kairi gets caught there during all the craziness, but not before Sora promises he'll come back for her. Sora, Donald, and Goofy keep looking for Mickey and Riku, while Kairi waits for Sora back at their home in Destiny Islands. End KH1

I'm doing all of this from memory BTW :D

@Lyon Artime I'm skipping 358/2 days because it was nearly irrelevant story wise.
KH: Chain of Memories

The Disney trio reach a mysterious castle named "Castle Oblivion", which is secretly the land Aqua, Terra, and Ventus lived in but with a "defense field" put up. This field forces all of those who enter it too loose more and more of their memories as they go up the floors. They start exploring and meet members of Organization XIII. They're using a girl named Namine (secretly Kairi's nobody) to manipulate Sora's memories and try to control him for their own gain. One Organization member, Marluxia, wants to use Sora for a Coup of the Organization, but one member named Axel (more on him later as well) stops him. Sora kills Marulxia and a few other organization members and rescues Namine, who starts the extremely long process of fixing his memory, at the expense of all his memories from Castle Oblivion. Meanwhile, during all of this, Riku was in the basement working his way up. He met DiZ, a weird masked man who is secretly Ansem the wise, who survived his ordeal and is now out for revenge. Riku deals with and accepts the Darkness remaining in his heart. So, Riku escapes castle oblivion, meets DiZ, rejoins Mickey, all while Sora is comatose on the top floor getting his memory restored. End of CoM.

@Lyon Artime extreme summary of 358/2 days:
After Roxas, Sora's nobody, is created, Xemnas finds him, discovers he can use the keyblade, and lets him join Organization XIII. He becomes fiends with Axel, another member, but leaves the Organization when he feels that the Organization members are hiding who he really is from him. Riku starts assisting Namine in recovering Sora's memory, finds out he has a Nobody, and also that that nobody is needed for Sora to fully restore his memory and wake up. Roxas tries to assault the Organization, but Riku stops and defeats him before he goes and kills himself. However, in order to do this, Riku, opens his heart to darkness and takes on the appearance of Xeahnort's heartless.

KH2 time:

DiZ puts Roxas in a computer world to control him while Sora wakes up. Axel goes to try and save Roxas, but fails because Roxas lost his memory. Roxas vanishes, Sora and friends wake up, and start another journey to look for Mickey and Riku. Sora learns about the nobodies, and fights Organization members multiple times along the way. Kairi, now much older and more attractive, gets kidnapped by Axel. It turns out the Organization were putting Sora in situations where he had to kill heartless, so that when their hearts were released, the organization could collect them and construct an artificial kingdom hearts, which could hopefully give them all hearts again. This is why Marluxia wanted to control Sora in CoM, and why Roxas was allowed into the Organization. Sora eventually find out DiZ is Ansem the wise, and reunites with Kairi and Riku, who still looks like Ansem seeker of darkness. Ansem the wise tries to destroy the artificial kingdom hearts with a container thing, but it explodes, sends Ansem back to the Darkness, and somehow brings Riku back to his normal form and lets him use a keyblade. Xemnas them fuses with the damaged kingdom hearts, while Sora and Riku pursue him inside kingdom hearts itself. They think they kill him once, Namine and Roxas fuse back together with their original selves, and everyone starts to go home. Then Xemnas comes back, traps Sora and Riku, in his world, where they have an awesome fight which the keyblade duo eventually wins. They get trapped in darkness for awhile, but find a door back to light and reunite with everyone on destiny islands. End of KH2.

This is also where the plot should of ended, I can't see them topping KH2, though BBS came close. Anyone who read all of this deserves a medal :D

@Lyon Artime
Oh-kay.. I think I've got it memrized O_o

@BLipp18 What was so complicated?

Fal'cie=Gods
l'cie=Slaves

The slaves didn't want to be slaves anymore and the Gods stopped wanting to be Gods cause they lived for almost eternity. The Gods wanted the slaves to kill them to bring a brand new world and slaves didn't want to do this because it would destroy the old one.

I think that's about the best explanation anyone can give.. lolz
That being said, my favorite kh games are kh1 and birth by sleep haha

@RedFishFire Except the fact that Longer Series =/= Better Ending

Because you basically have a series that is pushing more spin offs and Japanese ONLY editions to try and tell a story that is getting way too out of hand.

The current US/UK series of Kingdom Hearts is full of plot holes, holes that are filled by Japanese Final Mix titles. The adding of Days and Coded alone only fill questions that no one ever asked in the series (Why Roxas left and the letter in the bottle which was spoiled in BBS's secret ending anyhow)

In fact the new questions being asked are based on new games (Dream Drop Distance and possibly BBS Vol. 2 if it's a game) not to mention if there are games after 3D's AND before KH3 then it's just dragging the series on and on to build up to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqr9akIuVjQ

Which the ultimate pay off for this series is going to disappoint somehow because it's being dragged out. It's a wear and tear of all series and it's worse on game series that have this many title games for one major story arc. In fact I bet Kingdom Hearts is the firs to drag a series on this much, because with 7 total games and their own special editions this is dragging on longer then Lost (And look how that ended)