New Skyrim screens show off ugly beasts and not-ugly humans
by Griffin McElroy 
on Feb 8th 2011 2:20PM
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Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:24PM Poor Tom said
either joystiq posted the wrong images or they failed to realize they are the exact screens that were in the gameinformer article a while ago.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:36PM R Planteer said
@Poor Tom
Not everyone on the internet is a Gamestop whore, so these are probably new to quite a few people.
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Not everyone on the internet is a Gamestop whore, so these are probably new to quite a few people.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:50PM ArtificeDrake formerly known as said
@Poor Tom
If I haven't seen it, its new to me!
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If I haven't seen it, its new to me!
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 3:19PM Hamburglar MD said
@R Planteer Yes, everyone that reads Game Informer is a GameStop whore. You're an idiot.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:25PM Uberdave said
Did anyone else read that as ugly breasts?
Maybe I've been playing too much Dragon Age
Maybe I've been playing too much Dragon Age
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:37PM LENSconcept said
@Dizazter
Agreed, vomit-inducing breasts should be kept solely in the darkest corners of the internet. And on a close buddy's computer wallpaper.
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Agreed, vomit-inducing breasts should be kept solely in the darkest corners of the internet. And on a close buddy's computer wallpaper.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:55PM AmanteDuck said
@Dizazter
What about that...thing in Dragon Age? You know, the one with all the breasts?
Oh, and the breasts in Dantes Infernos...the ones that spawned babies that were then hurled at you as if they were pebbles plucked from the ground?!
Ugly breasts are out there man. They're out there...
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What about that...thing in Dragon Age? You know, the one with all the breasts?
Oh, and the breasts in Dantes Infernos...the ones that spawned babies that were then hurled at you as if they were pebbles plucked from the ground?!
Ugly breasts are out there man. They're out there...
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 3:04PM The Only Girl said
@Uberdave
Christ, I am so against ugly breasts. Seriously, if you're gonna make that the highlight of a female character, at least make them good. I feel embarrassed to play a game where the developers couldn't render good boobs. (they can't get a model or something...?)
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Christ, I am so against ugly breasts. Seriously, if you're gonna make that the highlight of a female character, at least make them good. I feel embarrassed to play a game where the developers couldn't render good boobs. (they can't get a model or something...?)
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 3:19PM Hamburglar MD said
@Uberdave I actually did, and didn't realize that it said beasts until an hour or two later after coming back on the site haha. I was like... her breasts don't look too ugly.. but ok.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2011 6:17PM maveric101 said
@KiraXD
freakin' brilliant. it'll take DoA's boob jiggle technology to a whole new level.
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freakin' brilliant. it'll take DoA's boob jiggle technology to a whole new level.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:25PM Guhungus said
Well... you know, the pre-release screenshots of Oblivion looked pretty good to. Then in-game you walked passed the 2-4 normal looking people and found inbred villagers who think they see two of you.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 3:05PM sigma8 said
@Guhungus
Yeah, screenshots for Oblivion all seem to feature reasonably normal looking people, but when you actually play the game, it's horrible. The face on that woman in the one screenshot is tolerable, but not really promising.
I bet they still haven't gotten it right.
It's funny that I clicked this because I thought "Elder Scrolls with non-ugly people? That IS news!"
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Yeah, screenshots for Oblivion all seem to feature reasonably normal looking people, but when you actually play the game, it's horrible. The face on that woman in the one screenshot is tolerable, but not really promising.
I bet they still haven't gotten it right.
It's funny that I clicked this because I thought "Elder Scrolls with non-ugly people? That IS news!"
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:25PM Dizazter said
Lookin' good Bethesda, lookin' real good.
You have my official approval to proceed with development.
So get back to work. Seriously.
You have my official approval to proceed with development.
So get back to work. Seriously.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:26PM Riley Freeman said
Hopefully i can now create a normal looking Human lol
The battle for 2011 GOTY is gonna be EPIC.
The battle for 2011 GOTY is gonna be EPIC.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 5:50PM DeadInside said
@Riley Freeman
Yes. The hardest part of Oblivion was making a non-fugly character. Its like "Here is a dark room with bad lighting, good luck making a face."
Boondocks!
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Yes. The hardest part of Oblivion was making a non-fugly character. Its like "Here is a dark room with bad lighting, good luck making a face."
Boondocks!
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:27PM Dirtybombs said
DOPE!
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:29PM oJMan240o said
Wouldn't exactly call them new... anyways, can't wait to play some Bethesda games with character models that have some... well, character. Maybe not have the same guy with a different name run up to me with a random mission every once in a while. A world that doesn't look like it's populated by twins will be nice, it's gonna be great to see their characters finally be on par with their environments. Oblivion launched at the start of this console generation and it still looks damn good from an environmental perspective.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:29PM MakeThemListen said
Mother of god, those look fantastic. The wait for this game is gonna feel so goddamn long, I need to stop reading stuff about Skyrim.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:32PM joer22784 said
Old screens are old, and yeah @ uberdave, I read breasts too
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:32PM Bingo Bango said
Is it me or are these screenshots of Oblivion after some modders have made it look good
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:34PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 3:37PM Bingo Bango said
@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2
That's Oblivion with a Dragon
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That's Oblivion with a Dragon
Posted: Feb 9th 2011 12:59PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Bingo Bango
Yeah, totally.
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/697/697211/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-20060320080708445-000.jpg
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Yeah, totally.
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/697/697211/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-20060320080708445-000.jpg
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:33PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
I wanna see some walking animation.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 3:07PM The Only Girl said
@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2
I also want to see a corpse. When you killed someone in either Oblivion or Fallout 3, the dead body would always...jiggle. In all sorts of weird ways. Especially if you used a rocket launcher at point blank in Fallout. The enemy model would get stuck in the floor or walls.
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I also want to see a corpse. When you killed someone in either Oblivion or Fallout 3, the dead body would always...jiggle. In all sorts of weird ways. Especially if you used a rocket launcher at point blank in Fallout. The enemy model would get stuck in the floor or walls.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:35PM KillTheApex said
These look great. The real test though is when they start moving their mouths and looking around. If the animation still sucks it doesn't matter how gorgeous it looks, they'll be right back in the uncanny valley.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:48PM oJMan240o said
@KillTheApex Coming from a game design student, I honestly don't think you know what the Uncanny Valley is.
The Uncanny Valley is the space between where games are now and the theoretical point at which games become so realistic that they start to creep people out and make people not want to play them. So... that would push it away from that. Think of the other side of the UV as being the literal equivalent of controlling another human being.
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The Uncanny Valley is the space between where games are now and the theoretical point at which games become so realistic that they start to creep people out and make people not want to play them. So... that would push it away from that. Think of the other side of the UV as being the literal equivalent of controlling another human being.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 6:55PM KillTheApex said
@oJMan240o Well, they do creep me out. They look close to human but what kills it is the animation.
I guess what I am saying is that Bethesda needs to work on animation instead of better visuals. They go hand in hand. You have to have great animation to sell believability. That's why I can empathize with Pixar characters but don't care about Bethesda's characters.
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I guess what I am saying is that Bethesda needs to work on animation instead of better visuals. They go hand in hand. You have to have great animation to sell believability. That's why I can empathize with Pixar characters but don't care about Bethesda's characters.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 7:03PM original fred said
@oJMan240o
No he's right. The Uncanny Valley is about the reaction to something resembling a human.
http://www.damninteresting.net/content/uncanny_valley_graph.gif
As you can see the closer something (robot, game character etc.) resembles a human the more familiar it seems. But there is a point where it becomes so close to human that its differences and imperfections become unnerving- like a corpse or a zombie.
The effect is multiplied when the "something" is moving.
That's what Apex was saying: seeing the characters in motion is the real test because that's where the Uncanny Valley hits hardest.
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No he's right. The Uncanny Valley is about the reaction to something resembling a human.
http://www.damninteresting.net/content/uncanny_valley_graph.gif
As you can see the closer something (robot, game character etc.) resembles a human the more familiar it seems. But there is a point where it becomes so close to human that its differences and imperfections become unnerving- like a corpse or a zombie.
The effect is multiplied when the "something" is moving.
That's what Apex was saying: seeing the characters in motion is the real test because that's where the Uncanny Valley hits hardest.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:42PM arrrdawg said
As mentioned, same pics as before. But I think before they were magazine scans so this is a little bit better.
Jury is still out on non-ugly humans. Blondie has nice hair, but she doesn't look any better than what modders can already do with Oblivion or FO3/NV.
I can tell right off the bat that the faces are still rendered in facegen. That just means they have different non-potatohead facial textures.
Jury is still out on non-ugly humans. Blondie has nice hair, but she doesn't look any better than what modders can already do with Oblivion or FO3/NV.
I can tell right off the bat that the faces are still rendered in facegen. That just means they have different non-potatohead facial textures.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 9:32PM sleepwheel said
@arrrdawg not really. i think is hair is the worst part of in that picture. it looks like 2d billboard slapped on the 3d head. :(
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Posted: Feb 8th 2011 2:43PM Richard Jae said
That blonde with the boobs has man shoulders.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 3:08PM The Only Girl said
@Richard Jae
Not really... her shoulders are thin enough to be recognizable as a woman's. I think it's just her posture.
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Not really... her shoulders are thin enough to be recognizable as a woman's. I think it's just her posture.
Posted: Feb 8th 2011 6:01PM DeadInside said
@Mach2
Whenever anyone says man-jaw I think of this comic.
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=217
I think the girls on that show are attractive though.
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Whenever anyone says man-jaw I think of this comic.
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=217
I think the girls on that show are attractive though.
