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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:37PM Aerothorn said

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As a footnote for my book, I was forced to try to think of commercial (i.e. not indie) games that overtly tackled politics in some sort of critical or serious way (sorry, Red Alert). The MGS series, Deus Ex, and Blacksite: Area 51 was all I could come up with, and even those are tongue-in-cheek in many areas. Hope this game pushes that forward.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:40PM Shadowbender said

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@Aerothorn

In a way, BioShock tackles politics in a serious way. But I'd say it's more idealism. But still, political references and themes are there, for sure.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:43PM Aerothorn said

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@ Shadowbender

True, though it's borderline for the reasons you mention: it's really attacking a strawman. MGS and Deus Ex, while frequently corny, lay on critique or exploration of numerous contemporary political issues.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:44PM Aerothorn said

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@kgoo867

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but in case you aren't: it seems that Black Ops would go squarely in the Red Alert pile, the a political-thriller blackdrop that is merely an excuse for a lot of stuff to blow up rather than something that is seriously engaged with.
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 1:37AM Courtney said

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@Aerothorn

Bioshock Infinite seems far more directly political than the first one, but of course it isn't out yet.

The Political Machine comes to mind, a US election simulator developed by Stardock for the last few elections. It's cartoon, but it's also a simulation that at least tries to explore the nature of elections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Machine

Michael Ancel has talked about how the culture of fear following 9-11 was a major influence on Beyond Good and Evil, though I'm not sure there is real direct commentary in the game on modern society.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:44PM TheDarkWayne said

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In before TV news controversy. Seriously, this will rain down hell upon us, oh well, sounds neat.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 9:04PM Smithsmithers said

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@TheDarkWayne
The only thing that could make this more controversial for tv is if you played a retired walmart assistant manager/ex-con who's on the run from the Feds after being framed for a triple rape homicide he tried to commit, and now he must help a meth addicted transvestite crack whore/Sarah Jessica Parker impersonator rob an orphanage while also evading her(his) one-legged, eye patch wearing, socially unstable ninja pimp. But seriously what will this game look/play like?
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:44PM Aerothorn said

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@kgoo867

Plus, "the game" is kind of unnecessary. I mean, I think it's pretty self-apparent that I'm not buying the year itself.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:46PM SamE said

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Very interesting and fresh concept, wondering what the finished product will be like.

One things for certain, it's definitely controversial.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:47PM Prboi said

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Let it be a Rockstar vet to come up with an idea for a game like this. This looks interesting. I look forward to hearing more about this game. If it ever gets to see the light of day in the U.S. that is
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:47PM Vector Scalar said

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There are many ways this idea for a game could go wrong, but if Mr. Khonsari is serious about presenting historically factual information from a variety of viewpoints, I'm in.

I think it will do better across the pond in Europe, but could really open up the dialogue here. Here's hoping they don't try to go big budget; being beholden to a large investor could cause an about face all too easily in this era of easily-believed faux outrage.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:48PM colonel juju said

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Damn it! I lost again!
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 4:40AM maveric101 said

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@colonel juju

aw hell. you bastard. :P
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:48PM SamE said

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@Aerothorn

Or are you......
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:50PM User Formerly Known as Dave said

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Rockstar? That movie sucked.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:51PM Prboi said

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@Aerothorn

Well honestly, if I just saw "1979", I would have thought it was a movie or TV show. I think "The Game" is in there to establish itself as a game when being exposed to the public.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:53PM LaughingTarget said

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@kgoo867

This one has potential to get negative press from outside Fox News. This one is a New York Times target, especially if there is any negativity aimed at Iran. Fox News is less likely to get on this one if America is portrayed as the good guys. You might want to get your stereotypes straight.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 8:54PM LaughingTarget said

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I'm awaiting for the gripping review by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to be spoken in the UN during the "Holocaust Wasn't Real" seminar.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 9:10PM 343 Guilty Fart said

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Are Smashing Pumpkins doing the soundtrack?
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 9:37PM andysexton said

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@343 Guilty Fart I was just going to post that.
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 9:45AM Spookimitsu said

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@343 Guilty Fart

me too.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 9:25PM Swift said

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This will be cancelled tomorrow.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 9:44PM Dizazter said

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Wait what?
Isn't that kinda like doing:
Holocaust: THE GAME
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 9:49PM Jack Kevorkian said

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I love different concepts when dealing with history so I'm on board. Good luck this sounds like the type of game which will ultimately never go gold.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 10:14PM The Cole Train said

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Sounds incredible
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 11:07PM Shinta said

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That's one damn compelling idea for a game.

I have to admit, I'm disappointed that it's focusing on America at all. Put the game in Iran, and just go with that. The hostage crisis is not what I would have focused on.
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Posted: Feb 16th 2011 11:23PM (Unverified) said

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Fox News is going to love butchering this.
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 1:06AM Angry Frank said

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So who else heard the Smashing Pumpkins song from GTA IV?

...who else just lost the game?
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 1:18AM (Unverified) said

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Good luck to him. I hope he can pull it off.
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 1:25AM MrKlorox said

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Too bad there's already a game called Contra.
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 9:13AM NullSpace0 said

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Totally wrong. We weren't allied with the Taliban in 79, the Taliban didn't exist then (not until the 90s). We did support insurgents in Afghanistan against the Soviets, including Ahmad Shah Massoud (who was later killed by the Taliban).
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 3:04PM lockwoodisbored said

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@NullSpace0

I was about to comment on "the US alliance with the Taliban at that time (who were fighting the Russians)" but I see you got there before me. My knowledge of the Middle-East in that time period is limited, but I am sure, as the previous commentator has said, the Taliban did not exist back then. I believe it was the Mujahideen the US backed in the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. America's foreign policy conduct from the end of World War II has always confuddled me (as has the fact that Kissinger is not behind bars).

Anyway, I think the reason I comment on this is as follows: I am wary of someone making a game about such a... 'gravitated' topic as the Iranian Revolution when they cannot even get basic, historical facts correct. If the guy ever makes a caveman game, he'll probably have theproto-humans riding around on dino's!
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 10:54AM StrangeDNA said

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If video games ever aspire to political and/or social commentary, it's typically indirect. A game concept like this will probably face an uphill battle it's entire life...all 10 minutes of it.

Seriously though, I think a game that covers material like this could be really beneficial, assuming it stays unbiased. Americans could use a dose of reality check that their view of the world isn't the only view.
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 1:10PM Flakk said

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@kgoo867

Urging the writer of a 55-word post to calm down is one thing, but did you really need a 191-word sermon to do it? Doesn't sound to me like LaughingTarget is the one that needs to switch to decaf.

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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 2:29PM glamajamma said

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@kgoo867

Honey Badger doesn't give a shit.
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Posted: Feb 17th 2011 2:55PM Mazrael said

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I like what the guy is thinking.. It could be good to play as the other side for a change.. obviously, somesides would have to be more tactful.. I'd also want that enemy to be uneligeble.. so, like.. play as the Germans/.French against the "evil" Alllies, but have it where you can't understand the English.. or even a conflict the allies weren't directly invollved with..
Playing as Altiar taking on Templars was great.. Chernobyl in CoD4 was great too for just seeing somewhere new, instead of the same old places we see in WW2 games
There's loads of conflicts to choose from, so why not use them..
How about a game where your a third party, trying to survive between 2 opposing armies.. be a Mirrors Edge/Splinter Cell kinda game..

What if the Allies were the ones who persecuted the Jews.. and it was the Gernans & co who tried to stop them.. If the Allies won it'd be OK because we're the good guys, but the if we lost, they'd be the good guys for stopping the eradication of the jews
...It's the victors that write history, and them selves as the good guys - it's just down to perpective as the guy said
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