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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 1:56PM MrAhh said

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this is why Android is better than iOS. And before the apple peoples comes to fade me away, your walled garden is indeed lovely but you will always remain at the mercy of Mr. Jobs.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:07PM jrr said

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@MrAhh

To play Devil's Advocate, I'm pretty sure the openness of the Android platform which allows for stuff like this is the same reason why we don't get stuff like an official Netflix app. So it can kinda go both ways.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:11PM sammo21 said

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@MrAhh Because you get N64 games, Android is better than iOS? Right.

Of any argument you could have picked, this is probably the least solvent.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:12PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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@jrr
There is a Netflix app for Android... but it's only going to be supported by newer phones that run on a newer Tegra 2 chip. See, previous hardware/software is unable to support the kind of DRM that Netflix needs, so the various TV & film studios were wary of supporting the platform. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like something that can be fixed via software.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:15PM gibson424 said

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@MrAhh Because I'll always make sure to have my Wiimote in my travel bag just in case I get the itch to play some N64 games on the road.

Tech demos are fun but how is this useful to the extend that it should make me want to get rid of my iPhone?
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:15PM EGOvoruhk said

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@jrr

You don't get stuff like Netflix because they are lazy. Android has a wonderful SDK which allows for native code apps, ie secure apps. Think about it: It's available in many forms on the PC, and that's about as open as they come
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:20PM Hong Dong said

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@MrAhh And you will remain at the mercy of Sir Doucheness.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:23PM ND92 said

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@MrAhh Emu's are on every OS, you can speed the game-up all you want to achieve this. I play on my iPhone just as easily. They all perform "Okay" and you have to lug a remote around. It's nothing stellar or game breaking, really
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:43PM Prboi said

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@jrr

It has nothing to do with the openess of the Android OS. Being that Android phones vary in speed & power, Netflix will not release an app just for people not to be able to use it due to the slowness of their phones. That being said, Netflix will be able to have a Netflix app pre-installed on future phones that will be able to handle streaming properly. So Netflix is on IOS as an app because all iPhones & iPod Touchs can handle it being that they have generally the same specs. So Netflix can stream on Android, it's just not on the App Marketplace
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 3:06PM jtrjuwrue5iiejie5ijeie3i5 said

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@MrAhh
My iPhone is jailbroken.
I can do whatever I want with it and have tons of extra functionality that vanilla iOS devices don't.

Like an N64 emulator.
The thing your argument is based on.
Failing to see your point here.

I hate Android fanboys, they're so quick to dismiss iOS because they're so insecure it seems.
"Hmm, an article on iOS, I better flame it quick so people understand my love of another competing device! Derp!"

Get over yourself, no one cares what phone you like more.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 3:09PM Drakkenfyre said

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@jtrjuwrue5iiejie5ijeie3i5

You realize Apple fanboys are the same way, right? An article about Android, and the fanboys flame the hell out of it. Go over to Engadget, hell, even the EDITORS do it. Most of them can't help but be snarky in articles about Android. They have actually banned readers for commenting on that in articles.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 3:38PM MrAhh said

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@jtrjuwrue5iiejie5ijeie3i5 I choose you because you seem to have a point, you had to jailbreak your iPhone, correct?

I'm done here.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 3:40PM MrAhh said

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@jrr I believe the lack of netflix is due to the devices varying so much, one thing in Apples favor is the unified only one device to code for approach. To all the others especially the guy that said he doesn't lug around a wiimote I can smell hate on your breath dood.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 3:42PM MrAhh said

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@sammo21 due to my inability to read your comment I am led to believe it made little sense. I hope this comment also fades away so I can join you in irrelevant comment limbo.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 4:12PM Flapjackal said

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@jtrjuwrue5iiejie5ijeie3i5 This emulator can run on stock Android phones, no jailbreak needed.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 4:18PM liquidsoap89 said

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@Prboi

But aren't ALL the new iPhones that come out every year better than the last? Yea all those phones released that year will be the same, and any apps released will run the same on all of them. But those same apps will perform much worse (or not even operate) on the older iPhones/touches (which most people seem to forget even exist...).
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 4:21PM Flapjackal said

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@BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam It won't be limited to Tegra 2 chips, it's also coming to both new Qualcomm Snapdragon and TI OMAP 4 chips with the necessary hardware DRM. You can already access Netflix if you use PlayOn. Hulu, too.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 4:35PM Walter White said

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@sammo21 - How 'bout Flash 10.1 support?
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 4:41PM Flapjackal said

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@Prboi It has nothing to do with "slowness." I can have Netflix on my 1st gen iPod touch but not on my Android device with twice the CPU clock speed and four times the RAM? It's all about the DRM, or so they claim.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 4:59PM HBlakeH117 said

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@MrAhh its a good thing iOS has had a N64 emulator for a while now...
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 5:16PM The Wicker Man said

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@MrAhh there is nothing that stinks of angry virgin more than people arguing over droids and iphones.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 7:01PM SSUK said

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@EGOvoruhk

Well, as an Android developer, I can tell you that the SDK is far from "wonderful", but it's "great" at the very least. Documentation can be a bit iffy and the push to use Eclipse IDE isn't fantastic by any means. Greatly improved with Developer Tools 10, though. That was much welcomed.

The problem content providers face with Android is because of how Android operates, unlike iOS where everything is locked down in a way to create an isolated, video game console-like environment where obscurity replaces proper security, it's much easier for them to implement DRM which is favourable. Apple also fully supports DRM policies at the OS-level which makes video/audio content expire over time, where as Android does not.

So what we're seeing isn't so much a hardware issue, most Android devices could - at least at a technological, hardware level - run the DRM schema which content providers lust for, but only select devices which have support for their DRM at the OS-level will have access to their applications. Because Android is open source and companies can build their own modified version of Android (which almost every manufacturer does, with very few "vanilla" Android devices out there... I can only really say the G1, Nexus One and Nexus S are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head), they can add-in things like DRM policy compliance or custom user interfaces. So you'll find phones shipped with Netflix embedded, rather than a Market application.

(I provide http://blog.netflix.com/2010/11/netflix-on-android.html as evidence to support my assertion)
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 10:17PM holysocks said

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@MrAhh
I guess the N900 is hipster standing in the corner going "hmph I could do that a year ago"
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 2:58PM MrAhh said

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@The Wicker Man are you aware you have a ninja turtle avatar? i mean can you see that or is it just me?
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 4:18PM The Wicker Man said

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@MrAhh. Just you.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 1:57PM danomak said

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So the battery life on my Droid will drop from "most of a day" to "only part of a day"?

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 3:27PM Bagels said

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@danomak

Task Killer is your friend
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:00PM Vampirial said

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So... amazing. Must... have.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:01PM Rawrnosaurous said

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Couple things,

1) This guy seriously hasn't played Ocarina of time before and yet that is the game he's choosing to emulate?

2) That is not a sexy lady

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 3:45PM ipsum said

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@Rawrnosaurous

Saria IS sexy. The hell's wrong with you?!
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Posted: Mar 8th 2011 12:02AM Epsilon said

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@ipsum
1. She's like twelve.
2. She stays the same age forever.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:01PM creid8 said

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The framerate may be stable, but boy is it low.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:05PM xTetheredWingsX said

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Pretty impressive to have such a great framerate on a phone. They can't even get the PSP to do this so well.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:50PM VeeDeeVee said

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@xTetheredWingsX
Um, that could be because the PSP is using a 6 year old hardware and a fancy new Android isn't.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:06PM dudes113 said

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Games emulated on phones are so last year

I want to see an Xbox emulated on Windows XP on an Android OS, all on an iPhone 4.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:08PM Drakkenfyre said

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Reminds me when I ran an emulator to play Diablo for the Playstation on my pc.

I was playing a port of a pc game on a pc with an emulator.

I had Diablo for the pc, I was just trying it out.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:26PM Peffse said

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@Drakkenfyre
You think that's something?
I was running a SegaCD game remade for Sega Saturn ported to Playstation 1 on my PS3 over wireless to my PSP.
(Can you guess what game it was?)
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 3:17PM Scuffles said

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@Peffse was it lunar ?
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 4:11PM The Wicker Man said

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@Scuffles. It better have been Lunar!
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Posted: Mar 15th 2011 11:48PM Peffse said

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@The Wicker Man
specifically Lunar 2.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:07PM Sly697 said

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Yes plz!!

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:07PM Scuffles said

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Faster than you can say cease and desist, its Nintendo man!

Looks cool tho.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:18PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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@Scuffles
Nintendo has never done a C&D for emulators... and NES, SNES, GB, and GBA emulators have been on Android for much longer than this.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:21PM Bearpowers said

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@Scuffles
Emulators are 100% legal so there can be no C&D.

They are very much a gray area though, only Google is willing to let them in their app store.

Gotta love how open they really are.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:51PM VeeDeeVee said

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@BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam

There is no kill switch on computer emulators though.
My bet is Nintendo will step in soon enough.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 4:28PM PersonOfSorts said

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@Scuffles

Plus you don't even need the app store. Just drop in the APK.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:09PM eat it said

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Idunno I need ti to emulate playing a n64 running on an emulator on my computer.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:09PM (Unverified) said

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No, just don't.
Don't tell me I can possibly play Paper Mario on my phone.
You will make me destroy myself.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:22PM ShadowXIII said

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Best grab this now before the Nintendo hammer comes.

Posted: Mar 7th 2011 2:52PM ranova said

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I made a quick video of the Atrix 4G playing zelda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpNcERFiN5Y
Much faster probably due to the dual core tegra 2.

Made another video of the phone being output to my HDTV over hdmi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZqrj2aHNNc

Using accelerometer to turn in mario kart, cool but gimmicky (like wii Mario kart)

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