Australian federal govt presses for consensus on R18 game rating creation
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"We're becoming the laughing stock of the developed world," declared Australia's Home Affairs Minister Brendan O'Connor to ABC News, "where we're the only country that doesn't have R18 classification level for video games." Following the Australian Classification Board's final refusal to grant Mortal Kombat a rating in an appeal decision on Monday (finding the game unsuited for MA15+, the country's most mature rating for games), O'Connor all but demanded that the states and territories reach a consensus to introduce an R18+ rating into the system when the attorneys-general meet in July.
"I foreshadow that if there is not a consensus around this issue, the Commonwealth will certainly be considering other options," O'Connor vowed, "because we cannot continue to have an outdated classification system that's actually, in my view, causing harm to young people."
When pressed for what the federal government's "other options" might be, O'Connor refused to clarify, saying only that he's "seeking advice" and would not "outline all of those things" at this time. "But can I say my preference," he reiterated in the full transcript obtained by Kotaku Australia, "my very strong preference, is to have consent around the table in July."
"We're coming up to ten years of inaction," O'Connor observed, noting that the issue has been on the attorneys-general agenda since 2002. "I'm going into the [July] meeting with an optimistic air."
To those opposed to an R18+ rating, O'Connor offers: "Just because sometimes people speed on the roads, doesn't mean we shouldn't have the right speed for each particular road." He acknowledges that laws can be broken -- that children could access R18+ games -- but argues that a revised classification system is necessary to provide better guidance to parents (who should be the ones supervising their children's media usage -- sound familiar?); and to solve Australia's current issue of adult games being shoehorned into the MA15+ category.
[Thanks, Shane]
"I foreshadow that if there is not a consensus around this issue, the Commonwealth will certainly be considering other options," O'Connor vowed, "because we cannot continue to have an outdated classification system that's actually, in my view, causing harm to young people."
When pressed for what the federal government's "other options" might be, O'Connor refused to clarify, saying only that he's "seeking advice" and would not "outline all of those things" at this time. "But can I say my preference," he reiterated in the full transcript obtained by Kotaku Australia, "my very strong preference, is to have consent around the table in July."
"We're coming up to ten years of inaction," O'Connor observed, noting that the issue has been on the attorneys-general agenda since 2002. "I'm going into the [July] meeting with an optimistic air."
To those opposed to an R18+ rating, O'Connor offers: "Just because sometimes people speed on the roads, doesn't mean we shouldn't have the right speed for each particular road." He acknowledges that laws can be broken -- that children could access R18+ games -- but argues that a revised classification system is necessary to provide better guidance to parents (who should be the ones supervising their children's media usage -- sound familiar?); and to solve Australia's current issue of adult games being shoehorned into the MA15+ category.
[Thanks, Shane]
Reader Comments (36)
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 12:07AM fischju said
There was a time when GamePolitics would be all over this, haven't heard anything from them in years...I guess we all lost when Jack Thompson got disbarred.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 12:20AM Doctor Who said
Can this guy please come to our country and lead us. Please!
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 12:27AM Lerkero said
I haven't read this much controversy over a moot topic in ever.
"Should there be a classification for entertainment aimed at adults!?"
Just make the damn law already Australia, unless I am mistaken in believing that there are people in Australia who mature past the age of 15.
"Should there be a classification for entertainment aimed at adults!?"
Just make the damn law already Australia, unless I am mistaken in believing that there are people in Australia who mature past the age of 15.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:03AM Apsac D said
@BrianH
This is why leaving your console of choice is bad, yes it is.
But seriously, the only sure way to avoid death in Australia is to become a hermit. Sun kills you, insects kill you, drivers over the age of 60 kill you. It's a dangerous place.
Hell, a mob of kangaroos use my backyard as a pooping ground. Those bastards will kill you.
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This is why leaving your console of choice is bad, yes it is.
But seriously, the only sure way to avoid death in Australia is to become a hermit. Sun kills you, insects kill you, drivers over the age of 60 kill you. It's a dangerous place.
Hell, a mob of kangaroos use my backyard as a pooping ground. Those bastards will kill you.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:11AM willooi said
@Mach2
Beware, the following image contains disturbing imagery and is recommended for audiences 18 and above. However under current Australia classification laws, it's rated MA15+, so click away!
http://techyum.com/blog%20art/mn_croc_attack_xtpe801.jpg
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Beware, the following image contains disturbing imagery and is recommended for audiences 18 and above. However under current Australia classification laws, it's rated MA15+, so click away!
http://techyum.com/blog%20art/mn_croc_attack_xtpe801.jpg
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:13AM Hivetyrant said
@Apsac D
You're not wrong, I've also had a herd of Emu's use my street as marching grounds, which is cool at first, until some poor sucker gets too close and is attacked... what they lack in flight skill, they make up for in sharp pointy bits.
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You're not wrong, I've also had a herd of Emu's use my street as marching grounds, which is cool at first, until some poor sucker gets too close and is attacked... what they lack in flight skill, they make up for in sharp pointy bits.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:14AM Hivetyrant said
@willooi
Someone should give that guy a hand....
Sorry
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Someone should give that guy a hand....
Sorry
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:30AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
@Mach2
That's not a drop bear.
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That's not a drop bear.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:40AM ShadowXIII said
@BrianH
Yeah, the only real way to combat the crazy wildlife is to either kill right back, run like hell....
....or just plain common sense:
http://www.zincavage.org/HikersBikers.jpg
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Yeah, the only real way to combat the crazy wildlife is to either kill right back, run like hell....
....or just plain common sense:
http://www.zincavage.org/HikersBikers.jpg
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:49AM (Unverified) said
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 12:27AM KinseySS said
It's kind of weird being in Australia for vacation reading a North American news site reading about Australian news.
Ps I feel sorry for the gamers here having to spend 110, 120 dollars for new games especially since the dollars are pretty much par.
Ps I feel sorry for the gamers here having to spend 110, 120 dollars for new games especially since the dollars are pretty much par.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 8:31AM LaughingTarget said
It's hard to imagine a nation that's issued giant knives at birth even has a rating system. Nothing a video game can do will surpass Australia's natural critters. MK is suitable for all ages.
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Posted: Mar 18th 2011 12:43AM SgtDookie said
Here's hoping Australia gets that adult rating.
Everytime i read about a game not being localized there because of the ratings system i cringe.
Everytime i read about a game not being localized there because of the ratings system i cringe.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 12:53AM Snappyguy said
After this, hopefully we can get that National Broadband network working and this thing called sliced bread.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 6:26AM AntiVillian said
@Snappyguy
damn me am I keen for some a dem fancy bread slices
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damn me am I keen for some a dem fancy bread slices
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 12:56AM DevilSei said
Another consensus? Really? Last time they did this, there was overwhelming support for the R18 rating to be established, only for them to throw out the findings of it on some absurd basis.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 2:02AM PointlessPuppies said
@DevilSei
Well, the only reason why they couldn't get through with it last time was due to Michael Atkinson's horrendously retrograde views (like @Aspac D said). Fortunately, he's not in office anymore so I really hope they get through with it now.
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Well, the only reason why they couldn't get through with it last time was due to Michael Atkinson's horrendously retrograde views (like @Aspac D said). Fortunately, he's not in office anymore so I really hope they get through with it now.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 2:41AM Foetoid said
@DevilSei
Actually, the reason it didnt come out last meeting in early March, was the entire meeting was dedicated to the recent flooding and it was postponed. The reason it didnt come out the meeting before that late last year, was because while they all agreed its a good thing, the guidelines for the classification needed to be drawn up first to approve it. July is looking very very likely.
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Actually, the reason it didnt come out last meeting in early March, was the entire meeting was dedicated to the recent flooding and it was postponed. The reason it didnt come out the meeting before that late last year, was because while they all agreed its a good thing, the guidelines for the classification needed to be drawn up first to approve it. July is looking very very likely.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:03AM Hivetyrant said
Crikey! it's about bloody time!
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 1:32AM eNriqeu said
Did they get a complete version of God of War 3?
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 2:45AM Foetoid said
@eNriqeu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games#Australia
The list of banned games in the history of games, shows not only are they pretty much all garbage, but there is very few of them. Even the listing of games to be nerfed is small, and the level of censorship is tiny except for Left 4 Dead 2, with most games later getting patches or so to remove censorship. It's never been about games getting banned, its about 99.9% of all games rated R18+ in the UK get stuffed in under our MA15+ banner and minors being able to play them.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games#Australia
The list of banned games in the history of games, shows not only are they pretty much all garbage, but there is very few of them. Even the listing of games to be nerfed is small, and the level of censorship is tiny except for Left 4 Dead 2, with most games later getting patches or so to remove censorship. It's never been about games getting banned, its about 99.9% of all games rated R18+ in the UK get stuffed in under our MA15+ banner and minors being able to play them.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 2:48AM Apsac D said
@eNriqeu
Of course we did. God of War III is perfectly suitable for children. *Sarcasm face*
The only major games I can recall that got banned here were Left 4 Dead 2 and Mortal Kombat. There would be more, but I can't recall anymore than that.
Everything else just gets shoved down to a 15+ rating. So yes, kids are out there playing God of War 3, older Mortal Kombat games and Yakuza 3.
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Of course we did. God of War III is perfectly suitable for children. *Sarcasm face*
The only major games I can recall that got banned here were Left 4 Dead 2 and Mortal Kombat. There would be more, but I can't recall anymore than that.
Everything else just gets shoved down to a 15+ rating. So yes, kids are out there playing God of War 3, older Mortal Kombat games and Yakuza 3.
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 2:45AM (Unverified) said
As an Australian (And a first time poster here at Joystiq) I would like to congratulate the Home Affairs Minister Brenden O'Conner, his views seem to reflect on the rest of the "developed worlds." And I agree with his sentiment of Australia being one of the last of the "Free world" I'm too drunk to continue, but whatevers.
Posted: Mar 19th 2011 5:10AM maveric101 said
@(Unverified)
pretty impressive spelling for being wasted. bravo!
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pretty impressive spelling for being wasted. bravo!
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 6:27AM Jedixo said
i'll be find with a r18+ rating.. as long as they dont turn games that would be given the ma15+ rating into r18+ games (uncharted, cod, killzone, ect)
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 8:05AM eat it said
we aren't even allowed to buy 18+ games here in america
Mature is 17+
and Sony, MS, and Nintendo will not approve games rated Adults Only which is 18+
Mature is 17+
and Sony, MS, and Nintendo will not approve games rated Adults Only which is 18+
Posted: Mar 18th 2011 8:33AM LaughingTarget said
@eat it
That's a business decision. You can still get AO and unrated games on the PC. They're outright banned in Aussie land.
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That's a business decision. You can still get AO and unrated games on the PC. They're outright banned in Aussie land.
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