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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 5:16AM lookhappy said

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That sucks!

Way to encourage spending Mr Cameron!

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 5:20AM ShadowXIII said

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That's because all gamers, not matter what country...don't already pay crazy prices from the start. /drippingsarcasm

I honestly hope this doesn't pass...I'm not in the UK..but I can see if this does hit the dirt...everybody else having the bright idea that we aren't already getting robbed enough as it is.

Posted: Mar 25th 2011 12:56AM EEdocSnitthu said

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@ShadowXIII their own pork barrel projects are already imploding for lack of cash, so why not bleed some more down their sink holes?
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 5:32AM BananaBoat said

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The taxman cometh.I'm glad that we've still got tax free online purchases here in the states (for now at least) as long as the business doesn't have any buildings in the state we live.

It won't last though. With every governing body in the country practically under a mountain of debt (or with mounting deficits), they're going to turn to e-commerce taxes to fill the gap.

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 6:14AM kentuckyfried said

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@BananaBoat Sad truth.

Buy while the gettin' is good...it's just a matter of time before the politicians get their greedy hands all over the tax money that then gets abused. Not always, just alot of the time.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 9:09AM Cronos12 said

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@BananaBoat

You realize that there is no such thing as a "tax free" purchase online. You are supposed to be declaring purchases you made without paying taxes on your yearly income taxes and pay the taxes then.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 10:44AM BananaBoat said

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@Cronos12 - I don't have a yearly tax return. I'm a student that makes zero dollars per year (well, I actually make negative twenty thousand or so a year if you're going to get really technical on me).

Are you sure that is the law in all fifty states? I've never heard of that here in *state censored for protection of my wallet*. If it is, I'd like to meet the one saintly person that is actually declaring anything they've bought online.
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Posted: Mar 25th 2011 7:21PM DrunkRaba said

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@BananaBoat Depending on your state. In Washington I can't get shit online without tax, especially on Amazon for over a year now. They are cracking down on every cent they can.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 6:11AM Nigeria said

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This is a tad hypocritical on my part as I do own, a very busy, an Amazon account, but I've always felt that this was basic case of tax avoidance. It seemed no different to the bank that places its base offshore yet layers its advertisements with layers upon layers of 'Britishness', paying 1-2% corporation tax during the process. It's deceptive and wrong. The little Video Game Store™ down the road pays full VAT; the rules should not be different for internet giants like Amazon and their lot.

There's also the case of less PAYE being paid into the public wallet; this inhibits public investment. And if smaller brick and mortar stores cannot compete with internet retailers that exploit this loophole then they have to downsize and/or close-down; this inhibits job creation.

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 6:19AM XenoSilvano said

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Whats so special about Jersey?

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 7:12AM WonderCaliban said

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It's an island of mainland UK. It has status as a tax haven. So lots of rich people live there to avoid paying the tax they should pay on mainland Britain.

What they should do is remove it's status as a tax haven so all those people pay the amount of tax they should do.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 8:06AM eat it said

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Kind of like how haliburton has a shack in the cayman islands so that they avoid taxes and sell nuclear reactor technology to countries like iran
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 11:10AM dosed150 said

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@eat it and guess which country the cayman islands are a territory of, for all the former prime ministers complaints about them, we love tax havens, but if it wasnt for places like jersey and the caymans being tax havens their economies would basically rely on tourism
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 6:32AM ItsmeCraig said

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Noooooooooooooooooo.

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 7:17AM AMonkey said

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Eh that sucks. Nothing like buying really cheap games off Amazon.

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 8:03AM eat it said

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a tiny little part of me thinks that we should pay taxes on online items here in america

but then reality kicks in and I remember that our taxes don't actually go towards education, or health care but instead go towards starting unnecessary military action all over the world.

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 8:24AM Lerkero said

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@eat it
Yes, exactly what I just said. Taxes aren't evil, it's the way they are spent.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 8:23AM Lerkero said

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I don't see a problem with this. Online merchants like Amazon.com have been getting away with avoiding taxes on purchases for a long time.

There's not way at the end of every year I am going to group together all of my online receipts and report to the government how much tax I owe on online purchases. I would rather have them go after the merchant than the consumers.

I have never reported to taxes I owe on online purchases and I don't plan on going through that hassle. Some retailers will ask for your state of residence and then add a tax to the purchase based on that. I think Amazon doesn't want to do it because it keeps their prices lower, but I don't think people will stop buying things from Amazon just because tax is added. Amazon already owns half the internet shopping I know of.

Someone please correct me if there is something I am missing about this. Remember people, taxes are not really evil, it's the politicians that irresponsibly spend the taxes that mess everything up.

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 9:28AM DigitalFortress said

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@Lerkero

Are you serious?
Savings on £18 or less with VAT and you are moaning?

Ohh wait wait wait!!! You're an accountant right?

doofus.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 9:43AM Wintrale said

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This is completely unfair. Play.com and Amazon are highly visited websites that lots of people buy their games from because of how much cheaper things are. It's only because of those websites that the 3DS isn't being sold for £230 any more! If anything, they promote sales and all these damn fools are doing is giving us less reasons to spend money.

Why the hell should we pay nearly 1.5x the price Americans do for the same games in the first place? Ugh...

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 10:14AM eat it said

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@Wintrale

"Why the hell should we pay nearly 1.5x the price Americans do for the same games in the first place? Ugh..."

because we have more space and more more people, which means there are more stores that are bigger and can order bigger quantities at discounted prices.

It's the same reason big grocery stores are cheaper than convenience stores.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 10:20AM Lerkero said

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@Wintrale
You shouldn't, but UK currency is worth more than USA currency and the average UK citizen makes more than the average US citizen.

Companies adjust their prices to reflect market conditions. If everyone in the US made a million dollars, the average price for soda wouldn't be $2, it would be closer to $75.

If UK currency is worth 1.5x more than US currency then you could expect companies to take advantage of that.

Prices in Australia are higher due to shipping and availability. The market in Australia is smaller than the US market so the company charges more so that the price of supply reflects the revenue from demand. There are many ways economics can work. Not all of them seem fair.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 11:36AM ShadowXIII said

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@Lerkero

Actually, I'm in Australia at the moment...and to ship to the most isolated city out here is *still* cheaper than buying retail...like by 80$ sometimes... 50$ if the game is new...and that's including priority international shipping on both counts.

Have a looksee at this too:
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/11/why-do-videogames-cost-so-much/
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 1:41PM eat it said

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@ShadowXIII

how much do you make at your job though?

when I was living there the aussie dollar was not nearly as strong as the american dollars or british pounds. but.... minimum wages were double that of what they were in america. so it all evened out

right now it might be cheaper because the world's economy is all messed up and the american dollar is not what it used to be.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 7:43PM ShadowXIII said

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@eat it

True true..... But its still pretty bad though. Just a brief example 120$+ for a game that, half the time, 2 years (or close) old...is not even remotely plausible....add the cost of living out here skyrocketed fairly recently (I think like 2 rate hikes in a row...one of em hit when I first landed) and it will still burn a clean hole in your wallet and tears a hole in the leg.

Bottom line, the prices are in dire need of a fix...till then...love my region free systems.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 10:18AM Gooblechev said

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I must be dimwitted, because I didn't get this article at all.

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 10:51AM Mazrael said

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But if the games weren't so cheap I wouldn't be buying them.. so this will just result in less sales.. The goverment don't exactly do anything with the money anyhow.. except for bonuses & rises

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 11:20AM SisypheanLife said

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I'm just glad my state doesn't have a sales tax. I hate them with a passion.

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 12:16PM Justacop said

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Arrg Mr Cameron seem to be wanting some Pirates maytee, arrg Nick Clegg even want to be a parrot. Arrg!

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 1:40PM prodigy69 said

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we didn't even vote for the feckers!

Mr Cameron and the boy blunder Clegg can f**k right off

Posted: Mar 24th 2011 4:25PM prodigy69 said

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@lockwoodisbored There has been a clear increase of trolls on the internet since Cameron and Clegg came into power...
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Posted: Mar 25th 2011 11:47AM Kade Storm said

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@lockwoodisbored How's the unemployment? And bettet yet, how's that fairing for our dole que? Rubbish. Unemployment has no bearing on dole. It's a myth. [/Sarcasm]

Inded the trolls are out in full-force. Who do you think put these people in office? (Labour included)
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Posted: Mar 24th 2011 6:05PM mrmobius said

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It'll not affect gaming as much, but as I buy almost all my books from Amazon, it's going to add a little unwanted tax. I'll manage though.

Posted: Mar 25th 2011 12:34PM (Unverified) said

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Everyone who is saying that this will encourage fewer sales, you've sort of missed the point. The UK government doesn't collect taxes on the games that are being sold already, so there's literally nothing to lose by closing the loopholes.

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