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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 8:55AM JnRx said

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This is cool news.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 8:58AM Acosta02 said

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@JnRx

Ain't it though?
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:00AM Crimsic said

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But...my favorite game is Timesplitters Future Perfect! D:

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:00AM Acosta02 said

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If I recall correctly, Ocarina of Time is in competition with Majora's mask, which means Ocarina of Time is going to beat Majora's Mask. That'll be really disappointing.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:31AM TheShaper said

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@Acosta02
I couldn't agree more.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 6:21PM AntiVillian said

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@TheShaper

I remembered this exhibition about art so I voted for MM
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:13AM Vesuvium said

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I'm not terribly happy with the way they're handling this: as a barely curated popularity contest, which has absolutely nothing to do with art.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:37AM Dashx747 said

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@Vesuvium

I actually think they did the right thing. It's hard to pick games from an purely artistic point of view (do we go with gameplay, storyline, visual art, music?). Curators have problems even choosing paintings, which is a well stablished and studied field full of experts. Games are even harder to, although they did a good job in the selection (all games there are actually great games, from a player perspective)

In fact, I've seen the same thing (popular vote) being done to exhibits of Monet, Escher and Portinari, so it's not an unusual thing. It's also good publicity and a way to get people involved.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:50AM Vesuvium said

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@Dashx747 All very good points. This is certainly an easy, practical way to do it.

Still, I can't help but wish that it was handled differently. Even if it meant identifying subject matter experts and having them vote or help curate.

Then again, accessibility has to be a priority in this milestone exhibit. Popularity contest certainly helps with that.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 10:01AM Elranzer said

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The PS1 "Adventure" choices are Lunar: Silver Star, Grandia and Final Fantasy VII. Gee, I wonder which one is gonna win.

If they cared about *art* then Final Fantasy IX would be on the list.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 12:36PM Juddyfresh said

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@Vesuvium Ok, so I realize people are always going to say "Oh, why do they choose this game and not this?" I'm all for showing off the different eras in gaming, but the way the choices are formatted is ridiculous. Each system has three games in four genres, and you can only choose one per genre.

So what ends up happening is you have the same amount of games up for nominations for the Commodore 64 as the NES. And instead of being able to vote for Chrono Trigger, A Link to the Past, and Earthbound, you can only choose one of the three because they're all Adventure games on the SNES. Yet there are three games to choose from among Combat/Strategy games for the ColecoVision.

And regardless, if they wanted to do a showcase on the "art of video games" they shouldn't be separating games into clear cut genres, but rather showcasing the games that don't fit clearly within a typical category. And even if a game DOES fit into a clear cut category, if it's not one of the four provided, it won't get nominated. I guess that's why I didn't see any sport games except for Tony Hawk's Underground 2(and really, that's the Tony Hawk game they're going to go with instead of one of the originals?).
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:14AM ceetheman said

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Went and voted.

There is so many Mario and Zelda games listed.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 11:15AM Hords said

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@ceetheman

But no Yoshi's Island? That game was art.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:23AM Dashx747 said

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I must say, I'm amazed by the list of games, ít's full of great games. I did not expected the Smithsonian to remember of games such as Ranger X or Nobunag's ambition, some of my Genesis favorites (and Shining Force 2, my all time personal favorite)

Great selection, looking foward to the expo.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:31AM TheShaper said

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Actually, its Chrono Trigger. Its awesomeness defies space and time, so it just might.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:42AM fwiffo said

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@ceetheman
That's not as bad as the fact that Star Fox is nominated 3 times and Command and Conquer is nominated 4 times. They're kind of limiting themselves with the genres they picked. Do we really need to pick a shooter for every system, especially when that category doesn't even include FPS's? I guess that genre is basically the arcade action genre which is cool, but I feel that they could've picked some better choices for that. Where's Tetris for god's sake?

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 9:50AM Elranzer said

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No one tell Roger Ebert.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 10:11AM TheShaper said

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Man, NES action games was a tough call. I ended up voting on Megaman 2.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 12:10PM Sh1fty said

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@TheShaper

So did I.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 10:12AM onan said

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I really wish there was a clear explanation of how this voting worked. You click on something and it says "WARNING: You may only vote once per era!" but it looks like you can voice once per genre, per platform, per era. :\

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 10:52AM captplut9465 said

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@onan

I agree, it's not quite clear. I kept voting until it said I had no more games to vote on.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 10:25AM Hawaii Jeff said

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if this exhibit does not include Okami, it will be an incomplete exhibit.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 10:51AM captplut9465 said

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@Hawaii Jeff

Okami's on the PS2 voting list.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 11:24AM TooManyFoppies said

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Halo 2 better not beat out Psychonauts.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 12:54PM pokota said

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Please let either Uncharted 2 or LBP2 beat Black Ops.

Still, I got to vote for FFT and SotC. Wish ICO was on there.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 1:05PM Prince David said

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WTF??? Why is E.T. listed on there? That is the game that killed video games!

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 1:19PM Elranzer said

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I honestly hope it wins.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 1:09PM 343 Guilty Fart said

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Too bad none of the Metal Gear Solid games are on the list, I feel they missed a big one there.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 2:07PM Jennacide said

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@343 Guilty Fart
Because barring MGS1 stepping up the bar for 3D visuals, the games never did anything exceptional for the medium in terms of art direction. This exhibit is taking things a bit literal and not considering pieces on the whole, but by things like art direction, which is why it sort of makes sense some games that you'd expect to be there aren't. (Like Ico being MIA)
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 2:11PM Jennacide said

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@Jennacide
I stupidly forgot to point out, MGS1 did make it, none of the others did.
/durp moment
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 3:27PM TheShaper said

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@343 Guilty Fart
You drunk? Both MGS1 and 2 are there. But as MGS games for the PS2 go, I'd much rather see (and happily vote on) MGS3.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 2:06PM Jennacide said

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Godddammit. Chrono Trigger had to be up against Earthbound? I love both games, but in terms of better visual aesthetics, Earthbound wins in my eyes. CT was a new level of visual standards, even if it was super anime influenced in art direction, but Earthbound just had so much quirk to it and general charm that I gotta go with it.

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 2:08PM Jennacide said

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@Jennacide
Oh, and also having to pick between Grim Fandango and Fallout sucked a big one too. But had to go with Manny, he's so dreamy for having no skin.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 3:27PM TheShaper said

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@Jennacide
You're a weird, weird person...
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 3:30PM Bighouse said

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I like that they're doing this, but some of the choices were just bizarre.

For example, Tony Hawk Underground 2 instead of Tony Hawk 2 (different era I realize, but still), and Metroid Prime 2 instead of Metroid Prime. I actually enjoy Prime 2, but are you kidding me?! MP2 instead of MP1?

Posted: Apr 6th 2011 3:33PM Bighouse said

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@Bighouse

That and the eras and genres don't make sense. There was a 1994 game in the 1995-2002 era, and the genres were essentially Action, Adventure, Arcade, and Strategy. Just weird.

But I guess I can't complain, cause hey, video games exhibit at the Smithsonian.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2011 6:34PM Levi said

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What's the game in the "transition" part of the pic above? Looks like a little plane is flyin around a house. Something I always wanted to do as a kid.

Posted: Apr 7th 2011 4:15AM Wossname said

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I find a lot of the choices bizarre.

PC games didn't exist until 1995 (luckily some of the most important games crept into other platforms). Portal and Half Life 2 cannot both be in the exhibition. The hugely influential original Prince of Persia is nowhere to be seen. And Zak McCracken is more important than Maniac Mansion?

Of course you'll never please everyone, but they way they've arbitrarily restricted the choices to begin with doesn't give me much faith that the 'art' of videogames is going to mean anything other than graphics.

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