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Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:40AM pw38 said
Well the game certainly looks good.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:42AM Exeanimator said
Goddamn. Can't wait :D Looks like a bunch of fun.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:44AM aussieCanuck said
the shooting looks smoother then fallout less tanky moving
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:57AM xThePunisherx said
@aussieCanuck
It's something id does better than almost anyone else. Most of the weapons are standard affair (pistol, machine gun, shotgun, etc.), but they just look and sound real, like they actually pack a punch. That's something Fallout doesn't come close to.
I can't wait.
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It's something id does better than almost anyone else. Most of the weapons are standard affair (pistol, machine gun, shotgun, etc.), but they just look and sound real, like they actually pack a punch. That's something Fallout doesn't come close to.
I can't wait.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 2:04PM CaramelZappa said
@Robborboy
Who created the FPS then? I've never been able to find one before Wolfenstein 3D. Never been able to find one that actually used polygons and had mouseaim before Quake.
Please, enlighten me.
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Who created the FPS then? I've never been able to find one before Wolfenstein 3D. Never been able to find one that actually used polygons and had mouseaim before Quake.
Please, enlighten me.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 5:13PM freaparn said
@CaramelZappa
All it takes is a quick google to find out that the FPS originally appeared in the 1970s, and even consoles had FPS titles back in the 80s. id Software comes up with some really great technology, but doing something better than someone who did it before you doesn't mean you invented it.
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All it takes is a quick google to find out that the FPS originally appeared in the 1970s, and even consoles had FPS titles back in the 80s. id Software comes up with some really great technology, but doing something better than someone who did it before you doesn't mean you invented it.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:48AM gordunk said
So...it's like Fallout and Borderlands...if either were actually good?
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 12:11PM Trogdorwhore said
@gordunk Oh dear god, if those weren't good games, what the hell is a good game?
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Posted: Apr 10th 2011 12:30PM gordunk said
@Trogdorwhore To be honest, I found em both to be incredibly dull. Borderlands was cool at first but the A.I. was pretty boring and the game got really repetitive. As for fallout I didn't particularly enjoy V.A.T.S. and the environments were really dull.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2011 2:49PM CaramelZappa said
@gordunk
I'm in the same boat. FPS is my favorite genre, so when Fallout 3 advertised itself as an RPG FPS, I got excited. When I played it and found out it was really an RPG with broken shooting mechanics, I was disappointed. I didn't enjoy the game at all.
Borderlands I never got around to playing, because in every video I've seen the AI looked really boring.
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I'm in the same boat. FPS is my favorite genre, so when Fallout 3 advertised itself as an RPG FPS, I got excited. When I played it and found out it was really an RPG with broken shooting mechanics, I was disappointed. I didn't enjoy the game at all.
Borderlands I never got around to playing, because in every video I've seen the AI looked really boring.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 4:19PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
@gordunk
I think thats why I preferred Fallout to most FPS, because it wasn't linear and there was a real purpose to what I was doing and collecting, rather than...shoot target #7....shoot target #8... constantly.
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I think thats why I preferred Fallout to most FPS, because it wasn't linear and there was a real purpose to what I was doing and collecting, rather than...shoot target #7....shoot target #8... constantly.
Posted: Apr 11th 2011 2:29AM LexStewther said
@Trogdorwhore
he probably prefers CoD, which would explain a lot.
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he probably prefers CoD, which would explain a lot.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:52AM Altrix said
Looks like a console fps. All in all they just want to grab your money.
Posted: Apr 11th 2011 9:21AM LEONLEONLEON said
@Altrix
If it looked like a PC FPS (which it is too) would you have a different opinion?
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If it looked like a PC FPS (which it is too) would you have a different opinion?
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:52AM RagingStormX said
Is it just me, or does the music in that video sound like a sample from Rammstein's Engel? Anyways, the game looks sweet...but thats some hand gun accuracy right there.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:57AM (Unverified) said
Looks way to mainstream to me. I had hoped for something with a soul. The stiff console gameplay doesn't help either. This makes it look like the next boring shooter in line. I hate to say this cause i really like carmack and id in general.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 1:54PM ck0 said
@(Unverified) I agree with you, and many others there that echo the same.
It looked completely boring to me, up until the clown starts talking, then I get a bit excited for it to be something like Fallout, then they show more bland shooting.
The weapons don't even do it anymore. I don't know if we are getting desensitized, or maybe there needs to be more than just ... this.
The lack of thought into the the game title is also telling.
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It looked completely boring to me, up until the clown starts talking, then I get a bit excited for it to be something like Fallout, then they show more bland shooting.
The weapons don't even do it anymore. I don't know if we are getting desensitized, or maybe there needs to be more than just ... this.
The lack of thought into the the game title is also telling.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 2:21PM alucard3000 said
@ck0 The game is a shooter what do you want for new gameplay tied right hand to left leg then have to shoot?Or chopstick weapons?Not really a whole lot of "new" stuff that can be done that hasnt been done so might as well take the time to do what you do "right".
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Posted: Apr 10th 2011 2:24PM alucard3000 said
@alucard3000 hehe that reply was meant for 2late2die 2 comments below I guess I hit the wrong reply button but oh well :)
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Posted: Apr 10th 2011 3:25PM Painfull Hero said
@ck0
The only purpose of this trailer was to showcase the guns, so yeah, there's going to be alot of shooting. That doesn't mean that's all there's going to be. From everything else I've seen, it's going to play out like a Fallout game, just not as in depth (less pointless talking, less buying/selling junk, etc). Plus, there's going to be the whole vehicle based combat thing too.
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The only purpose of this trailer was to showcase the guns, so yeah, there's going to be alot of shooting. That doesn't mean that's all there's going to be. From everything else I've seen, it's going to play out like a Fallout game, just not as in depth (less pointless talking, less buying/selling junk, etc). Plus, there's going to be the whole vehicle based combat thing too.
Posted: Apr 11th 2011 10:39PM Chareth Cutestory said
@(Unverified)
Because the trailer really takes an in depth look at the missions, driving/racing and crafting system.
THIS BOOK'S COVER SUCKS!
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Because the trailer really takes an in depth look at the missions, driving/racing and crafting system.
THIS BOOK'S COVER SUCKS!
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 12:09PM naterecording said
People are going to hate me for saying this, but there's not a lot that makes this game stand out to me. I don't want to take anything away from the new graphics engine, and the environments look really cool, but it still looks like your typical deal with scary looking bad guys you gotta shoot.
I hope I'm proven totally wrong and this game offers something totally new to the experience other than the graphics.
I hope I'm proven totally wrong and this game offers something totally new to the experience other than the graphics.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 1:53PM 2late2die said
@naterecording I think you're right on the money. The graphics certainly look nice but I didn't see anything new in that clip, gameplay wise. Just the same old post apocalyptic wasteland shooter. Bulletstorm wasn't exactly a work of art, but at least their skill shot system was something new.
Anyway, maybe once the game is out we'll see something that they've been hiding but I'm not holding out hope. id is known more for their graphics engines, not their innovative gameplay.
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Anyway, maybe once the game is out we'll see something that they've been hiding but I'm not holding out hope. id is known more for their graphics engines, not their innovative gameplay.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 4:43PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
@2late2die
God, Bulletstorm bored me to death, it was fun for me for like 5 mins, then it got tedious. I hope Rage differs from that, I'm losing faith in FPSs, if it isn't more generic military shooters, its more generic (post apocalyptic) mutant killing shooters, then theres the odd shooter in between like Halo, which wouldn't be generic if it wasn't for the fact that we get a new Halo every 2/3 years.
I think this has just made me want Timesplitters to release all the more, I want humour and wackiness :(
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God, Bulletstorm bored me to death, it was fun for me for like 5 mins, then it got tedious. I hope Rage differs from that, I'm losing faith in FPSs, if it isn't more generic military shooters, its more generic (post apocalyptic) mutant killing shooters, then theres the odd shooter in between like Halo, which wouldn't be generic if it wasn't for the fact that we get a new Halo every 2/3 years.
I think this has just made me want Timesplitters to release all the more, I want humour and wackiness :(
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 7:16PM naterecording said
@Spunky Monkey 190906 Yes, Timesplitters!! You can have all of your fancy game engines, Just give me a new FPS as creative as that!
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Posted: Apr 10th 2011 8:13PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
@Spunky Monkey 190906
So getting a new game from a series ever 3 years makes it generic?
By your standards every genre in existance is generic then.
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So getting a new game from a series ever 3 years makes it generic?
By your standards every genre in existance is generic then.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 12:15PM superchamois said
The guns look ridiculously accurate, powerful, and easy to fire. I suppose I expected a different tone to gunfights, where one is fearful for one's safety rather than the brash confidence on display here. Granted, it is an id game after all, so I think the only reason I expected that was the open-world concept coupled with the post-apocalyptic setting.
Is there an RPG skill tree or leveling up of any kind? If there is, perhaps this is what it's like to be up there in the weapon skill set. If not, then I'm not really sure how I feel about this. Looks solid regardless.
Is there an RPG skill tree or leveling up of any kind? If there is, perhaps this is what it's like to be up there in the weapon skill set. If not, then I'm not really sure how I feel about this. Looks solid regardless.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 2:14PM CaramelZappa said
@superchamois
I doubt it. People always want to compare this to fallout but they are alike in setting alone. It's a shooter first, driving game second, and maybe kind of rpg third. I think this game will be as unappealing to RPG fans as Fallout 3 was to FPS fans.
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I doubt it. People always want to compare this to fallout but they are alike in setting alone. It's a shooter first, driving game second, and maybe kind of rpg third. I think this game will be as unappealing to RPG fans as Fallout 3 was to FPS fans.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 3:42PM Painfull Hero said
@superchamois
check out 00:20 and compare the pistol to the supposed same gun at 1:40. Either it's a different gun that looks nearly the same, or the pistol was upgraded with some kind of magizene feed clip. Maybe weapons are upgradable (think Bioshock). Also, look at 0:55, it looks like the player changes ammo type for his crossbow. Maybe there's different ammo for all the weapons. Of course, that's alot of maybe's.
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check out 00:20 and compare the pistol to the supposed same gun at 1:40. Either it's a different gun that looks nearly the same, or the pistol was upgraded with some kind of magizene feed clip. Maybe weapons are upgradable (think Bioshock). Also, look at 0:55, it looks like the player changes ammo type for his crossbow. Maybe there's different ammo for all the weapons. Of course, that's alot of maybe's.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 9:28PM DV8ing1 said
@Painfull Hero
I have a bad feeling that what we saw there was just that pistols "alternate" firing where if shoots the entire clip. I hope you are right in that guns can be customized because as others have mentioned, this looks like another generic shooter for the most part. I won't judge it too harshly yet as this is just a trailer but we will see just how innivative the game really is over the next few months.
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I have a bad feeling that what we saw there was just that pistols "alternate" firing where if shoots the entire clip. I hope you are right in that guns can be customized because as others have mentioned, this looks like another generic shooter for the most part. I won't judge it too harshly yet as this is just a trailer but we will see just how innivative the game really is over the next few months.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 12:23PM Frito said
I feel like the bodies should have some sort of degradation to them, a la Left 4 Dead.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 12:32PM Conzar said
First person? Guns?
Wow, they're really pushing the boundaries with this one folks.
Wow, they're really pushing the boundaries with this one folks.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 12:51PM Getchow hands out my fries said
@Conzar
Stop being such a cynical twit!
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Stop being such a cynical twit!
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 12:36PM ZachFACEyay said
The pistol looks like a f*cking cannon! Can't wait :D
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 1:23PM Elijah Nerger said
I love Bethesda with all my heart and I love this generation of gaming, but I'm tired of post-apocalyptic RPG shooters! I'm tired of people saying "its dangerous out there in the wasteland" I understand everyone's trying to get a piece of the pie but can studios not look and plainly see that the genre has already been OVERDONE. Goddamn Borderlands was great but even they say 'wasteland' and just like every other game there's really skinny mutated guys with goggles on and occasional mohawks who carry small repeaters, SMGs, and tomahawks which we ALSO in Bulletstorm which I still enjoyed, but wheres the creativity? It's not like its been done with a different spin on it--- its been done EXACTLY the same before. Let's get some fresh ideas on the board people. I'm not stupid, I'm going to notice when you use the SAME set of characters in 8 different games. Jesus.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 2:09PM CaramelZappa said
I'm a huge fan of Carmack and ID but honestly I think they've grown out of touch. They practically invented the FPS genre, but I don't think they're evolving with it. Rage looks good graphically and mechanically. The guns all look like they have a good feel to them. But it doesn't seem like there's any soul in this game. Aside from graphics there's nothing to push the genre forward. Now that the FPS genre is oversaturated constantly, it takes a lot for me to pick one to play, and without something more than good looking wastelands it's hard for me to put my money behind this title.
Posted: Apr 10th 2011 2:20PM LarZen said
It looks realy nice but I hope there is more to the game then this....if not then we have seen..and played it hundred times before.
And am I the only one that thinks its strange and a little funny that all the mobs look the same...same clothes...same club they want to hit you in the head with...and everyone move in the same ways.
And am I the only one that thinks its strange and a little funny that all the mobs look the same...same clothes...same club they want to hit you in the head with...and everyone move in the same ways.
