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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:02PM Aperture said

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Getting a Wii was about as close to insider trading as I'll probably ever get.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:47PM Raffi256 said

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The Wii didn't have any magical components in it, it was basically a rebranded Gamecube, so it was inexcusable that it took so many years to bring supply up.

But the 3DS has a magic 3D LCD that's the only one in the world and that probably limits supply.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 6:30AM PN04 said

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@Raffi256
It's not secret that nintendo used the "cabbage patch" strategy with the Wii; by basically short shipping every shipment of Wiis or splitting them into multiple shipments, they guaranteed that any time someone went looking for one they'd get the "we're sold out but we should be getting some more in soon" line forcing people to make multiple trips. The more people got the message that the Wii was hard to get, the more the message that it was somehow a "must have" was hammered into people's heads especially the people that got the message from Nintendo marketing that the system was meant for people who didnt play games, to play games on.

Add to that the fact that the wii was (and still is) half the price of it's competitors is what lead more to it's sales. And yeah they made a butt load of money off of it because there was hardly any R&D going from the GC to the Wii.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:11PM KingBroly said

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Their strategy with the Wii was better.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:12PM GrayHero said

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I wonder if the total lack of marketing was also a factor?

A hope they go big with marketing once OoT is out.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:13PM Calatia said

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@Monkeyzamm John Oliver, FTW!

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:14PM Yuglyoshi said

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Too bad about...games and people.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:20PM Vidaluko said

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Troll mode on

Just got back from best buy guys, there are tons of them, this thing is not selling, mine is collecting dust, im blind and cant wait for the NGP

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:24PM A Sandwich said

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@Vidaluko

You misspelled "stupid". Did your computer auto-correct to "troll"?
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:59PM Nofriendo said

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@Vidaluko

"I know, God forbid they have 'em in stock!"

Doesn't mean they're not selling well man..
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:21PM hami83 said

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Too bad they forgot to keep adequate stocks of good software for the launch, or make good software even.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:22PM MasterYogurt said

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One of my favorite game stores almost lost me as a customer over the damn Wii. I had called to see if they knew when they'd get any in stock. They just had gotten one and were to put it out for sale the next day.

Arrived at opening, and... no Wii. An employee had bought it himself overnight. (I did get one though)

Apparently our copy of Wii Fit came from backroom deals my uncle made with someone at GameStop.

I'm pretty sure that they couldn't actually do WORSE with the 3DS.

Posted: Apr 19th 2011 12:25AM Drakkenfyre said

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When the original XBox came out, my local GameStop got TWO in. One was bought by an employee, the other was bought by another employee to put on eBay. After that, that store got a policy that employees couldn't buy new system hardware for the first 24 hours.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:23PM mguniverse said

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I don't want 3DS or NGP, I have Dead Space on my iPhone.

Also, the other day I was at best buy talking to my buddy Tim who happened to work there, and he was talking about how the 3DSs are simply not selling well.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:25PM A Sandwich said

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@mguniverse

No way, Tim said that?!
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:53PM Colin said

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@mguniverse

Yo, let Tim know I'm on for some Blops after work.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 11:01PM Nofriendo said

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@mguniverse

That is weird. Why didn't Tim let Reggie know?
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 11:12PM The Tim said

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@mguniverse

I never...!
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 11:15PM Urethra Alfredo said

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@A Sandwich

Dude, if Tim said it, then it must be true.

Tim's my brah, yo. Totally got me laid during Beach Week.


If you see him, tell he owes me a twen for that eighth we split.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 12:36AM Cap Morgan said

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@mguniverse


Me love you long Tim
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 7:29AM ShadowXIII said

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@Cap Morgan

^ Combo breaker.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 7:53AM Cap Morgan said

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@ShadowXIII

Guess someone doesn't watch the office.

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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 10:31AM ShadowXIII said

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@Cap Morgan

Guess your right...
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 11:43AM jph89 said

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@A Sandwich

I don't think so Tim.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:25PM Gposh said

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@Calatia
Thats Aziz Ansari... He did that bit on his Comedy Central special

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:27PM Trilancer said

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You will see a shortage once they drop the news that the 3DS is actually the Wii2 controller.

The Wii2 will not come with a controller to 'keep costs down for consumers' but you will need to buy a 3DS to play games. Killer-wallet-app-integration (Kwai)

You'll see...

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 11:43PM AltairArcanum said

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@Trilancer

Awesome. Can't wait to spend 250$ on a controller.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 12:05AM Trilancer said

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@AltairArcanum

I remember back in the N64 days, I bought another N64 controller so when a friend comes over, didnt set me back that much.

If the 3DS is the Wii2 controller, its gonna have to be for a friend with benefits.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 12:22AM Drakkenfyre said

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They did that once. When the GameCube was released in Japan, they didn't include AV cables. They said "Everyone has a Nintendo 64 anyway, they're the same cables. Use those. It makes it cheaper to buy the system." (Yes, they literally said this.)

It pissed off a significant amount of people, and they started including AV cables.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 12:54AM mechafenris said

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@Drakkenfyre What *I* love most about Nintendo and its philosophy on accessories is the fact that in 3 no 4 iterations of the DS (DS,DSLite,DSi,DSiXL) there have been almost as many connectors for the power cord. What in the name of god is the reasoning behind that? (Except to force 3rd party suppliers to make new ones.)

I still buy their consoles, but I can't believe their insistence on changing the bloody connector (when the battery and charger are the same voltage throughout the lifespan of the console.)
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:35PM A Sandwich said

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Reggie is such a great PR guy that it's almost embarrassing to listen to spokespeople from other companies. However, I'm sure that the 3DS is off to a slow start, just like the DS was, if any of you can remember that far back. But I'm sure that it will take off, especially after people see how huge the NGP is in person and once Sony reveals the price. It's always difficult to convince your giant install base to switch to a new product when their old product still works fine and is being supported. PS2 to PS3, anyone? But it will get there. Yeah, yeah, the launch lineup is pretty poor, but so is EVERY launch lineup. The 360 didn't have a killer game until Oblivion and look at the library now. Remember all of the PS3 "has no games" jokes? They were funny because at that point in time they were true. Remember how the Wii ... well ... Galaxy 1&2 are amazing!
The point is, people sounding the death knell for the 3DS are morons. Just wait until it gets a couple of exclusive Pokemon games and and a raccoon hat Mario in 3D.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:49PM The Radio Waves Were Like Snow said

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@A Sandwich

Wait... Common sense and more than anecdotal evidence to support an argument you're making? But didn't you hear what that guy's friend Tim said?
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:53PM CaramelZappa said

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@A Sandwich
I don't know, the 3DS sold almost as many units in one week as the ds did in its first month. Considering there's no "must buy" software for it yet, and a lot of people are just holding out until the summer releases, I don't understand all the negative buzz around the 3ds's launch. They sold a bunch of hardware at a ridiculously high price (imo) with (arguably) barely any worthwhile software and yet people call it a slow launch? By the time the price does drop and the system selling software is out I think the 3DS will be a big success.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:55PM Shadowbender said

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@A Sandwich

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuzyXf6aPo0

But seriously though, I am a Reggie fan.

I mean, that is why they call him the Regginator, you know.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 11:01PM Epoque said

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@A Sandwich Games will help 3DS a lot. But do you know what isn't helping 3DS? That people think it's just another DS revision, like a DSlite or DSi, just this time with a better screen that just happens to support 3D.

Nintendo could stand to get the word out that the 3DS is a brand new platform, not just to video game-centric sites and periodicals. Because it's genuinely holding the platform back, and keeping units on store shelves.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 11:16PM CaramelZappa said

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@Epoque
They also really need to tone down the 3d advertising. Honestly, it's the least important part of the 3DS. The circle pad, gyroscope and the fact that it actually has competent 3d (not stereoscopic) graphics are way more important than "glasses free 3d!" because they all actually effect games.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 12:32AM mechafenris said

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@A Sandwich
Very true. It's as if people are accustomed to a blockbuster on each release. Nintendo's not always the sales record breaker... as we remember about the DS. (I still have my blue DS fat.) I didn't get a DSi, though I did get an XL... (and a DS Lite because they improved the screens so much between 1st and 2nd gen).

I am happy with the 3DS (and I got the "aqua" one to boot), and I've played the living snot out of a title that didn't need 3D (Lego Star Wars) but really has a great presentation for 3D, particularly in the flight sequences (that are not on rails now... which is awesome.) Will the 3DS take off? Yep. It'll have a strong year, and particularly when the AAA titles come down the pipeline. (There's a ton of them to look forward to...though truth be told, I've got so many RPGs backing up on my shelf for the DS, I should at least start some of those before investing in more 3DS titles. heh.)
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 7:42AM Esposch said

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@A Sandwich

EVERY launch lineup is poor?
I remember the first XBOX had this little thing called Halo. And the Wii had both Wii Sports and Twilight Princess.

And going back a bit further, the NES, SNES and 64 all had Mario launch titles which were released to major critical acclaim - especially the first one.

And Dreamcast launched with Sonic and Soul Calibur...

Only really the 360, PS3 and 3DS are the only consoles in recent times to have really crappy launch lineups. Even then the DS had a port of Super Mario 64, and Gamecube had Weegee's Mansion.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 10:59AM baby sea tuna said

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@Esposch

Uh, the 360 launched with Call of Duty 2. Ever heard of it?
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 2:42PM Dale P said

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@CaramelZappa Tim told me to buy it for Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition now, then Mario Kart 3DS and Star Fox 64 3D later.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 3:14PM xxxsam said

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@CaramelZappa
Doubt it. I agree the 3D schtick is mostly pointless and doesn't affect gameplay, but it is definitely the selling point they have for the system (at least initially). Think about how the mainstream react to these two possible stories:

1. 'It's basically the same as the last one but the graphics are better and it now has a joystick pretty much like the one in the competing system'

2. 'It's the first ever handheld game system that you can play in incredible 3d without needing glasses!'

#2 is almost approaching a news story. #1 is wtf who cares, leave that to the game nerds.

Basically regarding this story, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. It sells out? Everyone shouts intentional shortages. It doesn't? Everyone shouts failure.

Personally I'm certain the Wii shortages weren't intentional (that is, they might well have expected a degree of shortages actually at launch, but not to that extent and for that long). That was because they estimated demand wrong.

I'm also pretty sure they did make an effort to do better with supply for 3DS... but a lot less sure they didn't also estimate demand wrong, in the other direction this time. Obviously you can't believe a word Reggie (or any other PR person) says.
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Posted: Apr 20th 2011 11:01PM Esposch said

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@baby sea tuna

I have. And I didn't know that. I thought its biggest title was Perfect Dissapointment Zero. I stand corrected.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:35PM Calatia said

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@Gposh Oops, I knew I heard it on one of the comedy specials I watched recently. ^^;

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:45PM MEMgrizzlies7 said

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More difficult to find than a Turbo Man doll?

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 11:18PM Urethra Alfredo said

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@MEMgrizzlies7


Ugh. Lame reference.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 12:33AM mechafenris said

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@MEMgrizzlies7
At least you don't have a psychotic postal worker thwarting your plans to get a 3DS. :)
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 8:38AM arucious said

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You my good sir are a Day-Maker
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 10:54PM School Glue said

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Off topic: Dear Joystiq could you please remove the image of the angry snakes on the top of your homepage.
thank you
creeped out reader

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 11:19PM Urethra Alfredo said

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@School Glue

Uh, what snakes?

I think you're seeing shit, brah...oh wait, did you smoke some of that shit Tim had?
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Posted: Apr 19th 2011 10:04AM foxhound said

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@School Glue
Angry ... Snakes?
-emails Gameloft-
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