Probably Not the Wii 2, Part I: Innovation reinvented

@Nonentity
For reference, 1 horse apple = 1 golden apple in Minecraft.

@Nonentity

Second that motion. Surely this metric is by far and away the most effective measuring tool the gaming industry can use at this point. Why we havent been using this sooner demonstrates how utterly behind we are in our rating systems.

@DasMadHatter

My only question is do horse apples come by the cart load or box?

@asojax They come by the ass load, obviously.

also, double pun wordscore get.

@mrantimatter

A winnar is you

@Rankore

Why is it hard to believe? The Xbox 360 is built like a gaming pc, making it easy for devs to port a game from a pc to a console or console to pc. The PS3 uses an advanced cell processor so it is very difficult for devs to work with.

@Rankore It probably means they're going with a deep OO-based language and API, ala C#/.NET, coupled with compatible PPC processors and ATI graphics would make it extremely compatible with Xbox 360 from a development standpoint (code is easy to port, assembly and device-specific functions remain unchanged).

@Mr Hett

"very difficult for devs to work with."

2007 called, they want their old excuse back... you should prob read some NEWER sources about PS3 development in 2011, altho you're right about easier port from PC to 360.

@Rankore
Gotta remember, this is supposedly an SDK slide, they're trying to entice developers with it.
I'd say this is real, but looking at the SDK.. i hope it's not... god that thing is fugly.

@themisanthrope

I call BS. You wouldn't be on here if you weren't following Nintendo... at least a little bit.

@(Unverified)

or I simply typed joystiq.com into my url bar instead of specifying in the address, ps3, psp, etc.

@themisanthrope

Then why are you bothering to read this article?

@themisanthrope
well that was a poor decision. you missed out on a boatload of sweet GameCube games. i just dug out my copy of Wind Waker and a Wavebird. gonna fire up the Wii later tonight.

@verymetal

PS2 > All other game consoles

@verymetal
You're about to start a battle that you won before it began. But many people will not feel that way...

@verymetal

I agree with you in terms of sales, but not content. The promise of a new Zelda or Mario is no longer enough to guarantee a Nintendo console purchase in my opinion.

@verymetal

won this console war with the Wii?!? seriously?! i was agreeing with you till you ended your post with that sentence then i re-read your post again and it def comes off as a overly exited Nintendo fanboy.

its NOT the best time for a Wii2, if anything it shows you exactly why the Wii didn't win diddly sh!t this gen. Unless you mean selling 100 million consoles to push out kid and family friendly games to everyone with tacked on motion control. a new console now is a slap to the face of all Wii owners who have to REBUY a new console while their competitors are still enjoying BETTER games on a console thats not even 6 years old.

Do you actually think devs (that are not nintendo) are gonna run to develop brand NEW games that take advantage of a new console at this point in time? No, they are not. They are gonna develop the same exact games the PS3 and the 360 have, except now you will have a Wii2 port to play with, which bring a better point, if the Wii 2 releases next year and the PS4 and xbox720 (?) don't come out for another 2-3 years then Nintendo would again be stuck with older hardware.

in all, releasing a new console now is a bad bad idea, for everyone, it confuses the normal casuals who just bought a Wii, its bad for gamers who now have to either buy a new console because their old one is going to be a second class toy, and its bad for developers who have to develop new games for a new console when their competitors have established their names and their services (and sales)

@PR0F3TA
I disagree with you. The winner of the console wars are based on how many systems are sold. PERIOD. Who has the dominant market share? That is what is determined on who wins the war. The year 2005-2006, was when all 3 systems were released. It is now 2011. It is a perfect time to release a new console for Nintendo. If they wait, and release at the same time as the others (2014 maybe?), they would probably lose significant market share, because of the loyal XBOX and PS3 users. By releasing, a new console in 2012, Nintendo will have a powerful console and be able to compete with the hardcore, instead of attracting non-gamers like they did with the Wii. Face the facts, and look at how Nintendo, completely changed the philosophy of Sony. They saw the Wii, and said "Hey, this motion control thing actually works, and you can make money off it." Nintendo is one of the greatest game makers of all time, and many 3rd party developers look up to Nintendo for opening the doors for them way back in the 80's. Developers love new technology and Nintendo will have no problems at all in that regard. Look, I am thinking that I am keeping it real. There is no hate here.

@PR0F3TA

Oh come on, seriously. How many people here actually don't want Nintendo to release a new console? I personally have been waiting for them to since like a year after the Wii was released. Hell, its been like 5 years. It's time.

@Mr Hett

Personally, I'd have to go with the SNES.

A Link to the Past
Breath of Fire
Donkey Kong Country
Earthbound
Earthworm Jim
F-Zero
Illusion of Gaia
Jurassic Park
Ken Griffey Jr Presents Major League Baseball
Mega Man X
Pilotwings
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana
Star Fox
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
Tetris Attack (best tetris game ever imo, though it's not your traditional tetris)
Uniracers
Yoshi's Island

and FFS...

Chrono Trigger!

@verymetal

you make a good point, but Nintendo is now trying to play some kind of game of catch-up, to catch up to what ever Sony and Microsoft come up with next, you know, by your definition.

hey, question, is it irony the new zelda game is gonna be a port from the console prior.

@PR0F3TA
Your right about that. The Wii is outdated by technological performance. Sony and Microsoft (Sony more so) have always been about power under the hood. Nintendo really needs to catch up with raw horsepower. But, take a look at the past. The NES really didn't have any competition, the SNES was more powerful than the Genesis. The N64 was more powerful than the PS1, the Gamecube was more powerful than the almighty PS2. I am strictly talking about hardware power. So, the Wii was really the first system that lacked in horsepower compared to the competition. The Wii has been so popular, that Nintendo did back themselves into a corner, by having the preconceived notions that they care more about attracting new gamers rather than the hardcore. If there is any truth to the power of Nintendo's new console, then they are going to compete directly with the competition on their own playing field. The gloves will come off, and the true Next Generation will start.

If the new Zelda will be a port, from the Wii to the new console, then that will be really lame. I have to admit that. I hope it stays on the Wii, but just when you think you have Nintendo figured out, they come out of left field and make you say "WTF!"

@(Unverified)
it just doesn't look like Nintendo hardware. i suppose you could argue thats just the SDK unit but i still don't buy it. i am very excited about all this tho. its starting to feel like the Revolution all over again.

@Cube
Yeah! Like that Sony Ericsson Xperia phone! SO fake!

@Qehb
So funny it's real. If you don't reinvent yourself every new 'generation', then you get boring.

@Once known as Shadsy

It looks like it says easy portability from the PC, XBox 360.

I would hazard a guess and say that it's something that Devs can work on and then port things to this device.

@Once known as Shadsy

Ugh ignore my post. Wrong person.

@Once known as Shadsy
Not only that but... Nintendo wanting portability with the 360...

I'm not sure what EXACTLY that means, but yeah, it just feels bottom-line unrelated to any Nintendo workage.

Unless something wicked this way comes...

@Misguided Terran

Nintendo might not want it, but third-parties would love it. It actually would make sense.

@Captain Planet Planeteer Power

Fun way of saying horse poop. It comes out in apple shaped balls. Thought that you would know more about nature.

@Captain Planet Planeteer Power

mmmmmmmm........ horse testicles

@Captain Planet Planeteer Power

http://www.mtv.com/videos/wonder-showzen-mathematics-seas-2/1531545/playlist.jhtml

@Captain Planet Planeteer Power

Are you telling me that whenever I heard someone use the expression "What about them apples?" they really meant "What about them testicles?"

Because that changes everything.

@Captain Planet Planeteer Power

They are also the basis for the ultimate in bad taste pranks: the road apple sundae. You place road apples (wet or dry) in cupcake molds, and cover with chocolate, sprinkles, and a cherry. Serve to unsuspecting persons, and prepare to meet your maker when they kill you for it.

@Captain Planet Planeteer Power

I prefer deer nuts, because you can get them under a buck.