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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:07PM krisr2005 said

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It wasn't a matter of if, but a matter of when. Surprise!
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:11PM manson1994 said

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People should really read the terms and conditions first in it sony says " we are not responsible for any lose of data or damages to from illegal activity"
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:40PM sortius said

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@manson1994 That's a reference to the data stored on the machine. The privacy statement says that your personal information is safe.

They have breached their own agreement.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:43PM Blazeddc said

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@manson1994 This. I'll definitely being opted out this. It is clearly written in the ToS before you sign up for PSN. I say this after having to call in and cancel two credit cards due to all this. :|
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 8:11PM jsx said

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There's a federal law that requires public corporations with web sites to encrypt user data, for children doubly so. If the data was truly not protected Sony is in for a big world of hurt.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 11:40PM mmmfishtacos said

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@Blazeddc You over reacted about your credit cards, Fist you should have some sort of fraud protection, second, 77 million accounts, what are the odds that this small group got your info?
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Posted: Apr 28th 2011 3:23AM NIck PSN ID Rattlehead91 said

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@mmmfishtacos Pretty damn good, considering all of those credit card numbers would take merely seconds to swipe with the right algorithms.
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Posted: May 4th 2011 8:20PM Bryangst said

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@sortius No they haven't. Sony had a system in place to help ensure the safety of our personal information. Unfortunately that system was not quite as strong as everybody had hoped. Guess what? No security system is immune to being hacked.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:08PM AutobotIronhide said

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Say what you will, but I agree with the Rothken Law Firm.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:10PM A Burger said

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@AutobotIronhide

it's too bad they don't have any proof of when Sony knew about the information being stolen, because... nobody does.

this should go well.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:16PM A Sandwich said

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@A Burger

Yep, no proof at all except for Sony's mass distributed confession.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:17PM Once known as Shadsy said

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@A Burger Blaaaah did you read what the lawsuit is charging? It's about Sony's failure to adequately protect the information, not whether or not they knew. Two separate things.

See, this is why I stopped hiring food products to do my taxes...
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:17PM A Burger said

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@A Sandwich

Keep thinking that, fanboy.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:22PM Once known as Shadsy said

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@A Burger
Guys, this is a first on the internet. A lawsuit over identity theft is being debated in intense, firey language by a hamburger and a sandwich.

Coming up next: was Obama born in America? We ask the McRib and an order of Cheezybread!
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:23PM Marco le Polo said

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@A Sandwich

I just ate your brother. He was filled with tuna and his skin tasted of wheat.

@A Hamburger

I just ate your friends brother (potato chips).

@A Sandwich and A Hamburger

How do you guys feel?
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:27PM Bubbameister33 said

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@Marco le Polo

They can only feel delicious, silly.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:33PM Troy Powers said

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@AutobotIronhide

Wouldn't they first have to know WHAT security measures Sony had in place before accusing them of not having enough? And who defines what "enough" is? I think this is going to be a difficult case to prosecute.

If you put your valuables in a bank's safety deposit box and they get robbed, you can't sue the bank for not having enough security.

Now, if they find that the information wasn't encrypted, or had no protection at all, they might have a case. But, if they had systems in place, and the systems were compromised, they're walking away empty handed.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:35PM AutobotIronhide said

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@AutobotIronhide

I usually prefer burgers, but on this situation, I'd rather go with a sandwich. Sorry, burger.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:59PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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@A Burger

You suck as a sandwich.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:05PM Zacxx201 said

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@A Burger
Food fight!
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:06PM Blackbird said

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@Bubbameister33

Woah now, you're getting a little too philosophical here. How exactly does one feel their own deliciousness? We'll need more than science for this one.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:09PM AutobotIronhide said

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@PR0F3TA

Not only am I NOT gaining ANY kind of profit from this situation whatsoever, but I am also crossed at Sony for not having better security.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:24PM GMUHistorian said

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@Troy Powers

Read the comments from the other PSN from today. Because passwords were stolen that automatically means Sony didn't have them encrypted. If all the hackers got were hashes they couldn't do anything with them.

Sony's own PR people. who are none too swift in the first place, may have lost Sony this lawsuit already based on the information they've already released.

If Sony's smart (and their PR people have already proven they're idiots so Sony's leadership better hope their lawyers are smarter) they'll settle this lawsuit out of court quickly.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:40PM Troy Powers said

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@GMUHistorian

Meh...I disagree. They probably said "passwords" instead of "hashes" because the average consumer knows what that means. At this point, no one knows, but Sony. Again, if the info wasn't encrypted, then I'd say they didn't have "enough" security. I mean that's pretty basic. If you have completely unencrypted password and credit card data on a server, you're just a jackass. I'm no expert, but depending on the level of the encryption, the data could be copied and cracked later. If it's salted and encrypted, the data is going to be almost impossible to crack.

I guess it'll all come out in the wash.
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Posted: Apr 28th 2011 4:23PM Vero Fox said

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@Once known as Shadsy
highlarious!
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Posted: Apr 28th 2011 6:00PM Abriael said

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@Once known as Shadsy And do tell what's your definition of "adequately"?

The fact that the protection failed (and no protection is completely hackproof), doesn't mean it wasn't adequate.

generic terms don't bode well for lawsuits.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:09PM A Burger said

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enjoy your check for $1, while the lawyers rake in the big bucks, on the rare chance that this lawsuit is even successful, clowns.

lol
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:12PM southernpredator said

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@A Burger

This lawsuit is not JUST about money.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:20PM Magetto said

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@A Burger
Or, you know, it's about punishing Sony for failing to adequately protect the personal info of their consumers?
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:24PM A Burger said

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@Magetto

oh yeah, big punishment. Settling for a small sum and writing out a tiny check, then being forgotten about in a month.

totally worth it.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:39PM anoffday said

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@A Burger

We'll have the last laugh when thousands of your kind are chosen from the dollar menu and consumed.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:46PM PR0F3TA said

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@southernpredator

"This lawsuit is not JUST about money"

HA
HAHA
HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHA...

;_; so funny
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:00PM A Burger said

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@PR0F3TA

isn't it thought?

haha
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 8:41PM Vidikron said

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@PR0F3TA

Class actions do generally just make the lawyers rich, but if they can force companies to make needed changes they aren't always a waste. So, yes, he's correct in saying it isn't always just about the money. That depends solely on party in question (i.e. the lawyers, the corporation, the consumers, etc...)
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Posted: Apr 28th 2011 10:04PM shaggyc said

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@anoffday

lol
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Posted: Apr 28th 2011 10:15PM (Unverified) said

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@A Burger
damn, the people who got into and paid for law school, passed the bar exam, and put the time and effort to form a case on how their client's privacy was molested get the money. life sucks.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:09PM southernpredator said

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About time!
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:10PM Faceless Troll said

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Well that didn't take long. Kind of ironic it's being filed in California.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:15PM My Prerogative said

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@Faceless Troll

Less like "Ironic", More like "Expected".
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:28PM Juri said

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@My Prerogative *slow clap*
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:12PM mywhitenoise said

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Having to change all my passwords, and then canceling my cards (as soon as I remember/find out which one(s) was tied to my PSN account) is a huge pain in the ass.
Sony didn't have their customers privacy and protection in mind, and I kind of think they deserve all of this. I never hacked my PS3, bought close to 50 retail games, and over hundreds of PSN content, but they should have never went about their anti-hacking tactics the way that they did. I hope most of us gamers wont be affected with credit fraud or identity theft, and that this is wake up call for Sony.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:21PM WillyLo said

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@mywhitenoise I also think some of your anger should be directed at the ones who actually took the time to HACK the PSN. Everyone just keeps blaming Sony, but these people are out there still and can go after something else when they feel like it.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:24PM Mr Hett said

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@mywhitenoise

How much money has changing your passwords and replacing your credit cards cost you?

I guess we're two different kinds of people, if someone found a way to break into my house and robbed me, I would be more upset with the robbers. I guess you would be more upset with yourself because you didn't know exactly how someone would break in and steal your stuff, before it happened.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:31PM mywhitenoise said

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@WillyLo
Why should I blame hackers? They were just trying to initially put Linux back onto their consoles (sony removed it on all Slim designs first, and later removed it from every PS3). I believe you should be allowed to modify your console if you have the means to, that doesn't mean I support stealing content, though.
Sony were stupid enough to believe they could actually stop hackers and pirates, when they clearly failed doing that with the PSP. They did shit for securing our private and personal information, they had everything stored in plain text. This is a nightmare for everyone involved, except for hackers and pirates. They won.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:36PM libregkd said

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@mywhitenoise
"Why should I blame hackers?"

Maybe because they are the ones who stole everything?
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:36PM Troy Powers said

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@mywhitenoise

"Why should I blame hackers? They were just trying to initially put Linux back onto their consoles..."

Seriously?!!?
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:39PM mywhitenoise said

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@libregkd
You're right. I'm getting the bad hackers confused with the "good" ones. Everyone seems to blend the two together, and I mistakenly did the same.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 6:53PM PR0F3TA said

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@Troy Powers

you all say sh!t like "Seriously?!?!?" but have you read what people here have been typing lately? They ALL blame Sony and give the actual robbers a free pass. This whole issue is a mess, and on top of that when you add a bunch of greedy self demanding gamers of this gen, it only gets worse. I blame sony for not telling us our info MAY have been stolen, they waited till they knew it WAS stolen. Other then that SONY DOES NOT CARRY THE BLAME ON PSN DOWNTIME... people talking of getting compensation for 2 weeks of no free online gaming?! i mean wtf have you gamers become.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 7:36PM UrielItachi said

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@PR0F3TA
PR0F3TA you are so right.
I dont know what the law sued going to get, but really is stupid, and is just a waste of time. The people are blaming Sony, but I don't get it, banks and other companies get breached and they stay quiet. Sony informs us once they were sure what was compromised, although I do say it was wrong of them not detailing stuff more sooner, but I do give them credit for trying to keep everything calm.

Now if on Thursday they announced that they detected and intrusion don't people supposed to assume the worst and go and start preparing a plan of action in case something gets stolen. Is always handy to be prepared for everything.

Another note, people keep blaming Sony, but the Hackers (Crackers) are the ones that stole our information, and probably these people who stole our information have been trying to breached the system for days, looking for holes and making sure not to leave any tracks, and most probably was more than one person, or just a very good Hacker.

I'm tired of people getting angry over this, stop acting childish and move on already, Sony did their best to secure our data, and they did shutdown PSN Service, it would have been worst that if PSN service keep working they could have done more damage and you all wouldn't even noticed, not until later in a month that we get an email stating that they were breached in April and all your information was stolen.
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