Fable 3 combat lead gets combative about game's reception

Oh Lionhead. Your employees are too funny.

Why they choose to release on the same day as the Witcher 2 makes zero sense.

he only played the first half LOL

After reading the headline I was expecting some guy to be firing off angry soundbites and getting chapped, but he's just defending his game and I think this isn't even news worthy, really. There's not much here besides a guy defending his game.

" "[Fable 3] is a better game than Fable 2."

... That's not a good start, but keep going. "

Interesting statement from the website which gave Fable 2 game of the year.

I agree though the fable series has been on a very steep downward slope since TLC, used to be a fan but I wont give Fable 4 a second look.

I just traded this in towards LA Noire after realizing after beating it and trying to enjoy it that yeah, it did kinda suck

@Noksukow
that part was awesome

You could have the game done in 2 nights..

I just dislike those dollcatcher/loads of guns achievements where you need to replay on different profiles to try to get the other items

I can never get in to Fable games. They always seem like a combination of an adventure game and something with deeper RPG elements but they only end up focusing on the shallower aspects of both.

"You have 365 days until you fight the bad guy!"

Me: Cool, plenty of time to build up lootz.

"You have 180 days until you fight the bad guy!"

Me: Huh? Okay, not as long as you said but I can work with that.

"You have 30 days until you fight the bad guy!"

Me: Wait what? I thought you said I had 365 days to start wtf.

"The bad guy is here! You have to fight him whether you're ready or not!"

Me: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

got through half the game, once i became king the fun factor was seriously lacking. traded for LA Noire.

Comedy Central should hire this guy!

As a developer, going up to defend your game is kind of tricky. You can have all the reasoning in the world as to why something is the way it is in your game.

Unfortunately, if people think your game is a broken mess, you telling them it isn't is pretty much telling people that their experience with the game is invalid because they aren't "doing it right" or something along the lines.

I think developers have a lot to learn from the people who play their games. They can be irrational, abusive, and sometimes just plain ignorant. But if a wide range of people have the same complaint about your game, maybe they are right, and maybe you should listen to them and take their words into account the next time you work on something.

Dismissing your fans is a sure fire way to make the same mistakes twice and not learn from your experiences. Part of the reason I enjoyed Fable 2 so much was because they had addressed many of the issues I had with the first Fable.

It felt like they learned nothing with Fable 3, and instead crammed stuff in there I didn't want, and lost some valuable time testing and bug fixing.

Fable 3 wasn't that bad. It improved in some aspects, went backwards in others, and didn't implement enough some of their newer stuff. I enjoyed the time I played it, it could have had more work done on it. If I enjoy playing a game I will look past some flaws, and I truly don't think Fable 3 was horrible.

I liked how it handled buying and repairing property, although towards the end I wish they had a repair all button. And even though they took out slow time as a spell, I like how they handled mixing two different spells together.

Gestures on the other hand were butchered. Fable 2 did them right. A personification of Fable 3's gesture system would be to take Fable 2, then beat them over the head until it suffered brain damage. And I preferred to see my character show how good/evil he was throughout the game.

They were pushing the idea of ruling Albion so much, it really wasn't implemented enough. It wasn't bad, but could have been much more involving, and still get you out to quest. You are the Hero after all, some things can't be left up to regular soldiers. But the end part of the game needed to be expanded. The second half of the game really needed to be HALF of the game, not just a tiny portion.

And truth be told, you do beat the main bad guy at the end. That would be like saying you don't beat the main bad guy in Final Fantasy 6 because you don't beat Emperor Gestalt at the end. The main bad guy is not who you initially think he is. It may be a little cliched that they did it that way, but that's the story they told, and it wasn't that they didn't tell you about it at the VERY end of the game.

talk about drinking your own koolaid...

oh good, so I'm not missing out on anything.

"Fable 3 was better than Fable 2"

AHAHAHA wrong.

Fable 1 was the best, what with the strong sense of magic and wonder in the world. A combat system that took SOME getting used to, but in the end felt alright.
Fable 2 casualized the series, but I've never considered that a series killer, even though the combat fell into mashing buttons, win big times. Then there were jobs and all that stuff for making money, and the whole magic and wonder thing felt like an aging titan, just about to drift away any moment now.
Fable 3 suddenly destroyed a great deal of the storyline continuity, either that or kicked dirt over all the lore, and wandered forward with a sprocket laden pistol held high. Anything big was dead, so no real sense of feeling small yet powerful, the only person who could use magic was yourself, leaving the world feeling even more empty, and then this sudden wrathful monster that by all logic would have killed everything already, but thank goodness for that broken economy. The humor needed work, YES YOU READ THAT RIGHT, only a few of Jasper's lines came across as funny, and possibly came from goofing around with the terrible writing. Side characters are now far less interesting, seeing as you only know them every once in a while, which is FAR more degrading that these are pretty damn good voice actors.

Fable 3 is what I hope is the bottom for the series, I sincerely hope so. We need to cut all ties to that wretched, twisted husk of a land called Albion, and move forward. A new land? One ripe for conquest or saving it from such? Or possibly to the far flung future, or our modern day, where magic has crept it's way through the cracks of the sidewalks, hobbe creatures play in the sewers, trolls are unearthed at construction sites, a melee weapon can be constituted from anything from a broken off bit of pipe to a baseball bat (or cricket, I'm not judgey on that sort of thing,) where magic certainly does mesh with the environment, and maybe, just maybe, we can have that STEALTH element back. Heroes are coming together once more to form a Guild to fight these new troubles, wondering what is causing all of this. It's one thing to feel unique, but it's another thing entirely to feel utterly alone in who you are. The name Fable insists a tale of wonders, let's make a new one Lionhead.

And for Avo's sake, don't voice the main character as a PONCE!

"Oh, wait, did you only play the first half?"

Maybe he quit because he couldn't find the right place to fish, despite a big red X on the map?

I think you mean Fable 2 represented a downturn in quality from Lionhead's previous games. Anyway, the combat is one of the worst parts of those two games. Now I know who to blame.

I personally prefer Fable 1 to the other 3, but here are my biggest complaints with 3 (and I still enjoyed it for the most part)

-Dumbed down magic
-Dumbed down Melee combat
-Automatic finishing moves that happen at random
-No "repair all" feature
-Framerate was horrible
-Rehashed bad guys (though to be fair this is fairly common with the series). For the most part I was fighting the exact guys from Fable 2.
-Dumbed down gestures. WHY do I have to erotically dance with some guy just to be friends? Also, why can't I interact with an entire group?
-Hand holding was broken and in the end, a bad idea.
-The dog needed to be fixed or removed. Everytime I play the game now and the dog barks I just cringe.
-Weapon morphs weren't as cool as they should have been.
-Changing the colors on your outfits didn't work as awesome as it could have. I want bright red hair, not muddy red/orange.
-Why is my hero no longer a Hulk when I stick to melee combat?
-Dumbed down RPG, inability to customize my guy's stats based on my playing style.
-Boss fight was a total cop out. TOTAL cop out. They pegged this thing to be so awesome and such a threat and well, you know what happened. Fable 1 TLC called, it wanted to show you how to do a proper end boss fight.
-Why is the swimming still messed up? SO frustrating sometimes.
-Some of the choices you make as King are weird. For example, I want the people to be able to drink, the game indicates that's the good choice, and then ALL of the citizens are intoxicated in the streets. Come on... that's just stupid.

Seriously, I'm going to stop there. I could keep going but I'm not going to. I enjoyed Fable 3, but the guys at Lionhead need to admit that Fable 3 is not better than Fable 2. It's not even better than Fable 1. It's two steps backwards. I miss being able to break into homes and steal stuff. Seriously, why was that removed? That was an absolute blast in the first game. Heck, I got so good at it I used to steal the blacksmith's weapons in Bowerstone in the middle of the day, then sell him his own weapons, then re-steal them. Broken? Yes. Fun? YES.

Wow. I loved the selective combat of Fable 2. The ability to shoot different body parts gave an element of "fun" to the combat. In Fable 3 it's just button-mashing with no combos or slick moves. This guy has been smoking what Peter Molin-eww has been smoking. A bit too much I think.

I only played a bit of Fable 1. I tried to play Fable 2 but I got bored about a 1/3 of the way through. Fable 3 I beat and I found myself actually being engaged when things flilpped around and I first started fighting the dark creature things in the cave. I thought 'this is pretty cool!'. Then it turned out exactly as Faceless Troll said and I was horribly disappointed.

I know this is just my opinion but I never understood giving Fable 2 game of the year praise.

Funny how first people hated Fable 1 when it came out. Then Fable 2 came out and they loved Fable 1 but hated Fable 2 and now Fable 3 is out and we love Fable 2 but hate Fable 3 ;). I find it very funny because each time they find new sticks to beat that dog ;).

The Uwe Boll of video game developers.

I do still think what people remember of Fable 2 is absolute insanity. That game wasn't very good and suddenly Fable 3 comes out and Fable 2 was GREAT. I've never seen the rose-tinted glasses get pulled out on a game so quickly.

Still, kinda dumb to argue which game was better. May as well argue about which game was the least sh*tty, because they're both a mess.

'Somebody set up us the bomb'

Fable 3 was interesting...and thats it.

It was obvious it was rushed. I am going to make the BROAD assumption they wanted to do MORE with the "simulation" at the end. The game could have been awesome if the simulation part was about 4 or 5 times as long.

if you have to make daily decisions and balance books, while questing, it would have been a smash hit. However, they turned it down to stupid mode and it sucked.

No save feature before the last day? WTF?

Fable 3, the only game I got hyped up for only to get let down so hard that I returned it a week later. I couldn't even finish it it was so bad for me. I pulled through the whole desert part, even if I was cringing at how bad it was the whole time, but when you became king and I realized how shallow it was I just stopped. Basically what I learned is to not get hyped up so easily and wait for reviews to come before purchasing on day one.

Personally, I don't think the series as a whole has ever lived up to any grand standard. There are so many other role-playing games out there... Compared to the best, what, exactly, makes the Fable titles special?

It's not as good as Zelda, it's not as good as Alundra, It's not as good as Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls, Dark Alliance, Tales of the Abyss, Chrono Trigger, DIablo, etc.

What exactly has the Fable series ever done that made it deserving of being so renowned? It can't even live up to its own promises more often than not.