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Posted: May 30th 2011 11:47AM Dalrint said

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Actually, 'significance of choice' was one of the few places the game wasn't a complete waste of time.

That and the character dialogue was brilliant. Everything else...not so much.

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:25PM adeese said

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@Dalrint

The significance of your choices were great...up until you get to the last half of Act 3.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:50PM Misfit Toy said

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@adeese

Indeed. Right about the point where your significance became insignificant.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 3:54PM akeso said

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@Dalrint
You mean the significance of choice that represented a different npc giving a speech about how mages are oppressed and then killing you instead of another npc?
DAII had about as much significance of choice as subway giving me a choice between "spicy" and "Dijon" mustard.

I hate to plug a game when talking about another game, but if you want to see actual significance of choice at play, go try the Witcher 2. Significance of choice isn't swapping npc models and dialogue trees, it's actually having the game change when you do something.
(it's even witchier than the last ;0)
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Posted: May 30th 2011 4:59PM ShivanSwordsman said

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@Dalrint

You're telling me that every character in your team becoming some wounded soul emo was "brilliant writing"? There is absolutely no joy in Hawke's party. The one source of joy that there MAY be, Isabella, is written as so much of a pouncy harlot that there is absolutely no subtlety or charm to her, unlike Zevran.

I didn't mind the wave combat. To me, they finally got combat right in this one by making cooldowns shorter, and battle more active. I hated combat in DA:O. Then again, I didn't spend all day spamming poisons and alchemy, my character ended up as a Two-Hand Warrior with a Super Sword. Still wasn't all that great. Should have used a Hammer...

Ahem. Anyway, they said they'd be improving Dragon Age with "DA:2". Expect the entire game to absolutely frelling suck in every area except combat, just like every other game that gets a console-focused release. Whilst I love good combat, if the rest of the game suffers for it, it's just not worth it.

Besides, they just released, and yet they're talking "the next game". It'll be just as rushed, just as shitty, it'll have Day 1 DLC because EA sidetracks a few members to get DLC out on release day (just like with BF3). I'm staying away from EA games until they stop destroying every IP that their studios birth. Woe to all the ones who bought DA2, they won't be supporting your game.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 5:52PM TheDarkWayne said

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@ShivanSwordsman Man, I guess you didn't ever talk to Varric or keep him in your party. That guy was a veritable ball of sunshine.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 11:49AM Undying said

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Did they fire Hamburger Helper?

Posted: May 30th 2011 3:42PM OrangeGamer said

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@Undying One can only hope!
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Posted: May 30th 2011 11:53AM SpacePenguinBot said

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I played the demo and that sold me on not getting the game.

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:07PM Shadowbender said

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@SpacePenguinBot

I disliked the demo so much I didn't even complete it.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 1:02PM jsx said

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All I had to do was look at screenshots and hear about the character creation removal.

I enjoyed getting all the achievements for Origins (3 play-throughs!) but botching the sequel was probably the worst thing they could do, since now I don't want anything to do with the franchise at all (similar to how I'll never watch Star Wars II & III).

RPGs are time-consuming, and there's too many better choices from far more innovative developers.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 2:11PM Nashk said

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@jsx

Character creation removal? I think you are mixing your facts my good sir. They only removed the ability to play as an elf or a dwarf. Still bad, but they did NOT remove character creation.

You just had to play as the default hawke for the first few minutes of the game. While I thought it was an interesting concept (You were playing as the *legend of hawke, not the actual one) I thought it failed for the very fact of forcing you to do it.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 5:43PM TheDarkWayne said

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@jsx Removed character creation? Lulwut?
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Posted: May 30th 2011 11:53AM Dance Mofo said

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Stop making your protagonists into man-whores. Not just this game but in your future installments as well.

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:02PM Mister Darcy said

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@Dance Mofo

Stop CHOOSING to make your protagonist a man-whore.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:02PM Balthier said

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@Dance Mofo The Grey Warden wasn't a manwhore unless you made them one. :(
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:05PM DokiDokiBawanga said

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@Dance Mofo you don't have to be man-whore if you choose so. you don't play RPG much i presume?
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:22PM Rather Dashing said

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@Dance Mofo I think you confused this game with The Witcher.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:37PM Boring K said

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@Dance Mofo "Oh noes Dragon Age is making me teh gheyz!!!!111"

This is a sign that you have your own issues to work out.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:39PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Boring K

Technically her never said anything about the protagonist being a gay man-whore.

He could still be a man-whore while only sleeping with all the woman.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 2:00PM Dance Mofo said

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@copa you only see one man-smurf with one female-naveri (I guess if that's her race). You don't see one man-smurf with a legion wanting to get with him or both.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 2:04PM Dance Mofo said

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@Mister Darcy a show of hands, how many here pimped out their main man to see how the interaction would go?
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Posted: May 30th 2011 3:37PM Cleric said

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@Boring K

oh look. overly defensive gay rights poster. the poster didn't even mention homosexuality, genius.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 3:58PM The Only Girl said

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@Balthier
Take it from a real man-whore, guys.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 5:49PM TheDarkWayne said

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@Dance Mofo Naveri? You mean Na'vi? Or Neytiri? Come on man, even the theater viewings of Avatar had subtitles.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 11:54AM Mazrael said

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Far too much recycling.. wasn't there 6 dungeons, each with a different skin.. and no attempt to disguise any of it... maybe use randomly generated maps next time

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:09PM Shadowbender said

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@Mazrael

And that's one of the reasons I'm excited for Skyrim.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 11:59AM (Unverified) said

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With DA 2, they pretty much "Jumped the Shark". Was nowhere near as epic as the first, and just seemed like a way to milk easy money out of the franchise.

Bring on Diablo 3!

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:03PM Balthier said

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@(Unverified)

What's Diablo 3 got to do with this?
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:03PM xLoneWolfx said

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Translation: We have been playing The Witcher 2 non-stop and finally realized how crappy our game is so now we are going to steal a couple of ideas and say that we were really listening to the fans.

My reaction: I'll save my money to buy two copies of The Witcher 3 instead.

Disclaimer: The game wasn't actually crappy, just not as good as it could have been. Compared to DA1 was a total mess tough.

Posted: May 30th 2011 9:13PM Major Pyr0 said

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@xLoneWolfx How can you still speak with all that crap coming out of your mouth
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:05PM Shadowbender said

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Sorry, but I'll probably never purchase DAII. Re-using environment assets over and over again is a huge pet-peeve of mine. I think games like AC: Brotherhood and surely Fallout: New Vegas had a downfall in that area.

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:06PM Bubbameister33 said

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How about a refund?

Posted: May 30th 2011 3:32PM adrunkamputee said

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@Bubbameister33

Sounds good!
Don't like a movie? Refund!!
Don't like a meal? Refund!!
Don't like the mail-order trannie hooker you've spent the last year with? Refund!!
Let your self entitlemest know no bounds!
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:06PM refried beans said

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Bought it beat it punched my kids trade it. Boring and short

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:07PM Collymilad85 said

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Fair enough.

Doesn't change the fact DA 2 was a blatent cash in though. I mean why go backwards from the first one? The problems with it were obviously not mistakes because you did so much better in DA 1, and really just wanted to get it out of the door and get some quick cash.

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:10PM Misfit Toy said

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But I only want to go outside of Kirkwall to visit some caves... and only for a little while. Then bring me back home so I feel safe. Also I want everyone I meet to die at the end of the game no matter what choices I make. That sir is a recipe for fun.

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:10PM DokiDokiBawanga said

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DA2 was mess and step in a wrong direction i feel.(combat is somewhat better though) i just hated where some of the aspects of story will not change no matter what you do or do not do you always end up with shitty result. it was a quick cash in and i hope they will correct themselves in DA3. still i buy anything bioware on day one be it the Shepard cooking mama or ReaperVille

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:15PM Misfit Toy said

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@DokiDokiBawanga

Cooking Mama's famous Shepard's Pie. Mmmmm mmmmm! Das' Good.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:11PM rob47 said

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No, no Bioware. I saw the images for DA2 and thought I'm getting it. It won't happen again.

Burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me.

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:14PM Misfit Toy said

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One of the biggest problems with Dragon Age 2 is that they didn't make any use of the Grey Wardens. They're like the Jedi of the DA world.

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:41PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Misfit Toy

DA2 wasn't about the blight.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:47PM Misfit Toy said

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@This Little Man Says His Name Is

True, but it still had dark spawn and they could have utilized them more regardless. Also, saying Grey Wardens should only show up during a Blight makes them too one-dimensional.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 1:36PM BrianH said

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@Misfit Toy

umm, Anders is a Grey Warden.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 1:43PM Misfit Toy said

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@BrianH

That is true. But he's kind of a run-away Grey Warden. Not really operating as part of the army of Grey Wardens. He more or less exists to serve himself anymore and by the end of the game you want to punch his face in because he takes matters into his own hands.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:27PM gatotsu911 said

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"We know you guys weren't too keen on the last game, but we promise we'll solve the problem by pumping out the next one as soon as humanly possible!"

Posted: May 30th 2011 12:50PM thatdude21601 said

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@gatotsu911

That's what I got out of it.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 1:13PM glemtvapen said

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@gatotsu911

True, true.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 4:02PM The Only Girl said

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@gatotsu911
Please, take your time. In fact, TAKE YOUR TIME.
THAT IS AN ORDER. I want quality, dammit. Not this EA exploit of DA1.
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Posted: May 30th 2011 12:32PM akeso said

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"From my perspective, as someone looking to the future and the DA franchise, I think that DA II moved us into a space that has more potential."

Want to fix the issues with DA2? FIRE MIKE LAIDLAW.
The fans hated the new direction.
The game was terrible. But the worse part was that it felt like a direct insult to the fanbase: one that disenfranchised fans of the original games while trying to bring in new fans to take their place. The token fan services of endlessly parading in old characters only made it worse.
Let Fable be the brand that reaches the broad audience.
Dragon Age was supposed to be a return to old school RPG's and I will never forgive bioware for failing to continue that.

Also, thanks to the numerous clear and obvious paid for earlier reviews (go look at pc-gamer and escapist's reviews versus the day one reviews to see what I mean) has only resulted in the belief I can never pre-order a Bioware game again.
EVER.

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