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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:23AM Histeria said

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Why is "Maths" in quotation marks in the article?

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:24AM mythosengineer said

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@Histeria Wondering the same thing...
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:28AM shruikan said

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@Histeria
I think it's because some people see "maths" as European way and "math" as the US way.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 8:18AM Phoenix117UK said

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@shruikan I'm pretty sure they wouldn't use quotation marks for the word math though.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:53AM Cap Morgan said

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@shruikan

“The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that’s the way I likes it.”
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 12:25PM SamE said

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@Cap Morgan

"Problem number 35 with America: no universal health care. Number 36: no metric system. What is this, the time of Charlemagne? Answer me! Answer me now!"
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 4:09PM Brodo said

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@Histeria

I really don't like this idea. Don't get me wrong, I love videogames, but I think that everything has a certain place.
For example, I work at a restaurant and honestly about 50% of the kids eating there have a DS, iPad, PSP or some other gadget with them while they wait to get their meal.
I don't think that people should become dependent on always having a videogame with them (or whatever it is they enjoy as a hobby).
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 6:59PM Jennacide said

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@Brodo
Not the same thing. Saying he wants games in the classroom doesn't entail games you'd play recreationally. (Well, mostly. I played Oregon Trail recreationally only last year) They can be powerful tools to incentivise learning, and if done correctly are actually teaching more than one skill at a time, while seemingly being straightforward.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:26AM Shiz said

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Math is the wrong way to use this.

Many of my foreign friends are fantastic at English due to playing games.
Lets get some mass Neverwinter Nights play sessions going ! Then I might be able to understand other people in my country.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:41AM Ad134 said

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@Shiz my younger siblings learned to read and write from video games. I reckon we could use them in every aspect of learning if we put our minds to it.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:00AM sparkster said

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@Shiz
Your comment creeps me out... NWN was my first online game and I guess I learned alot of my English there. Also it probably was the best multiplayer RPG ever made due to the amount of customization and the countless fan made modules available.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:44AM alialo said

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Michael Gove is a twat.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:45AM alialo said

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@alialo Just to clarify - this is good. Everything else he does makes him a twat.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:47AM Histeria said

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@alialo this is a FACT.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:36AM Urethra Alfredo said

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@alialo

I know, right?

That tosser still owes me five quid.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:46AM (Unverified) said

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@alialo Tory, need we say anything more?
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:59AM Xemplar said

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What ever happened to the desire to learn for the sake of knowledge?

But I suppose more ways of motivating kids these days can't be a bad thing right?

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:57AM Yuglyoshi said

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@Xemplar

I'm pretty sure the article is about bringing games into the classrooms of grade schoolers. IIRC, the only knowledge I was searching for in grade 1 was how to not get ripped of when trading pokemon cards, and how to build the best beyblade at recess.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:19AM ironneko said

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@Yuglyoshi

Beyblade? Pokemon? In grade school? I feel old as hell.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 6:14AM Dr Toboggan said

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Hasn't this guy ever heard of Number Munchers?

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 6:27PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@Dr Toboggan

Beat me to it.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 6:45AM Snappyguy said

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Lady on the Right, you perv. D:

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:14AM AltairIbnLaAhad said

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Perhaps the class can team up and have a go at the Corporeal Beast? No? Okay.....

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:21AM zefur said

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If this does happen then i could no longer become a teacher. The urge to push a kid out the way and grab the controller from him/her to do it myself because they keep failing would be to strong.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:29AM Rubbishy Me said

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...The conservatives are still assholes.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:45AM AMonkey said

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A politician making sense when it comes to video games and seems to be bettering the country? Whats the catch?

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:48AM (Unverified) said

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@AMonkey It'll probably end up meaning job cuts, somehow.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 8:40AM Smatticus said

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@AMonkey The teachers have to work longer for their pensions.
I'm sure 100% of teachers would prefer pensions to video games in classrooms.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 4:23PM Decanus said

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@Smatticus
If they are anything like the imbeciles we had they don't deserve a wage let alone a pension. most were teaching subjects that were out of their field and its not like it was a small school with poor funding.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 7:57AM FuriousMailman said

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@Elzio De Auditore

A COMMENT FROM ELZIO THAT ISN'T BLATANT TROLLING OR FLAIMBAITING

HAS THE WORLD GONE MAD

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 8:20AM furiousgeorge said

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i recognize some of the scholastic values of games at times, even the health benefits from time to time. but this just seems to be a recipe for disaster. for people trying to develop and mature, it sends a mixed signal of what games are, and when they are appropriate to engage in. why not games at work? how bout while im driving? extreme examples, sure. but still. not everyone is able to develop into mature adults when things get confusing, especially when they are not receiving good parenting and are allowed to just game the day away at home as well.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:35AM blackangel209 said

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@furiousgeorge You pretty much destroyed your own point there. Most of it is and should be on the parents. Maybe if they made video games about how to be a proper @*$#ing parent, then a few more might get it right.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:58AM Cap Morgan said

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@furiousgeorge

Mavis Beacon teaches typing confused me on the role of video games as a kid. I thought it was okay to jump on turtles and kick their carcasses at others for points. I didn't get an extra life but I did get a new classroom. It was fun.......and padded!
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 5:03PM furiousgeorge said

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@blackangel209

you almost destroyed your own comment. i did say, basicly, that most of it should be on the parents. this is just one more thing, i believe, that will add to the problem. but if a parent is not being responsible, shouldn't give the schools the go ahead to step in and say 'well, we'll do it!'. a school is an educational institution, not a day care or pcs. it's only responsibility is to educate. hell, why have teachers anymore?! just plop all them meatsacks down in front of a tv in a classroom and let em watch nickelodeon. lots of educational shows there.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 8:32AM Dhexodus said

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@Elzio De Auditore

You're off character.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 8:49AM dirt junkie said

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We have already had games in he classroom room here in the UK! When I was at school we had "Granny's Garden" it was awesome!

http://www.viddler.com/explore/Malorie/videos/3/

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:28AM Jay Me said

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Kids could learn Japanese military history if they added Genji 2 to the school curriculum. They could learn how warriors fought giant crabs & had to attack their weak spot for massive damage.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:55AM hami83 said

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Lol make it more engaging? How about giving teachers power to kick out and suspends little a$$hats that won't shut up and are being disruptive.

Oh heaven forbid an education minister fix the core issues as opposed to putting a shining coat on it and calling it new.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:56AM bshido said

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sweet gangsta lean in the photo

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:14AM Faceless Troll said

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Someone hasn't heard of Oregon Trail I see.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:23AM Glassneedles said

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Both the schools I went to (Sussex) had maths games called chefron and Cheops pyramids. Were pretty good in a maths kinda way. Anyone else play them?

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:45AM aramis said

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Totally agree - I wish we could play games like these http://mathiqgames.com in our classrooms. FUNNEST way to learn math skills!

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 12:57PM bloodlinejake said

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@aramis
"Funner" isn't a word my friend. Try some grammar games.
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Posted: Jul 5th 2011 11:47AM Dark Pheonix Clan said

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little big planet in creativity class anyone???

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 11:54AM Yuglyoshi said

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@FuriousMailman

Can we stop feeding him attention yet?

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 1:43PM TCJJ said

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Now if only every government thought this was a good idea, because this is one of the best ideas I've heard in... Uh... Forever.

Then again, I remember playing a Maths version of Space Invaders many years ago when I was in Primary school (Grade school for you foreigners).

I've never been very good at Maths, so I'd lose quickly, because I was too busy trying to work out the sum whilst the aliens were kicking my ass. I was better a normal Space Invaders.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 3:51PM Qehb said

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Ah the good old days of Mario Teaches Typing.

Posted: Aug 5th 2011 9:59AM gemmawhizz said

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Hello Everyone,

We couldn’t agree more with Mr Gove. We think at this point in time, reaching students in way that they are familiar with and feel comfortable with, is critically important. Online gaming is something which is here to stay, not fade into the background. That means that educators have to accept this and use this to their advantage, and in a way which benefits students. An online forum, and in particular gaming, is something students understand, look at it in a positive way, and are very happy to do.
@Xemplar - is this the point you were leaning towards?

What we need to be careful of, is making sure that when we do give work to students in ‘shoot the aliens’ type of way, we are 100% engaged in exactly what they are doing, how they fared, where they got stuck, and what level they are at. It does not help any student if they are able to choose the level at which they learn. If I was an 8 year old, I would choose questions that I was comfortable with and found easy , so in essence I would get better at what I was already good at! No, what needs to happen is an assessment, and then the learning engine, or ‘game’ to choose this level for the student based on their ability. Getting students to learn and work without realising that this is what they are doing, is by far the most effective way to ensure progress. Times have changed, and we need to change with them. There is no point being afraid of the fun, or the technology. What we need to do just embrace it, and make sure we use it to better our teaching methods and the students for whom we are responsible.
Does anyone else share our view?

Stephanie and Gemma, Maths- Whizz (www.whizz.com)

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