"There has been a miscommunication at our level," a Namco Bandai representative told Eurogamer today. "Thanks for your understanding." The rep then shouted "Aye bee ex why el arrr" and vanished in a cloud of smoke.
"There has been a miscommunication at our level," a Namco Bandai representative told Eurogamer today. "Thanks for your understanding." The rep then shouted "Aye bee ex why el arrr" and vanished in a cloud of smoke.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:01PM Xenobite said
Well that's nice.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:04PM Gooblechev said
When I run a company, my representatives will be pirates too.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:44PM Dance Mofo said
@Gooblechev 203 Comments
Then it would seem like your company will fall faster than it would rise.
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Then it would seem like your company will fall faster than it would rise.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 6:45PM Gooblechev said
@Dance Mofo Sorry, bad joke. I was referring to the bit about the "arrrr". My company will not hire software thieves. :D
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:05PM spekkio said
Years ago I rented blast corps, and it was all finished with no way to erase the game. I had to call funco land to find out you need to hold start upon booting up to get to the data management screen.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:07PM Pure Black World Tendency said
Sulfuric acid will also do the trick.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:57PM Dance Mofo said
@Pure Black World Tendency 1811 Comments
i am sure it would but one question: your pic is it from the old movie, Ghoulies?
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i am sure it would but one question: your pic is it from the old movie, Ghoulies?
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 2:47PM Pure Black World Tendency said
@Dance Mofo
Nah it's from the comic based on the short story Rawhead Rex by Clive Barker.
And holy crap... I have made 1811 comments?! I think I will retire from Joystiq soon :-o
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Nah it's from the comic based on the short story Rawhead Rex by Clive Barker.
And holy crap... I have made 1811 comments?! I think I will retire from Joystiq soon :-o
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 7:34PM Dance Mofo said
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The only one I know with a lot of comment, the most, would be Chris D. He has over 7 grand+
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The only one I know with a lot of comment, the most, would be Chris D. He has over 7 grand+
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:12PM Eight Hundred said
Too bad this won't get nearly as much publicity.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:13PM Anticrawl said
I'm sure Nintendo is pissed over this stink. If it wasn't already a requirement by Nintendo to allow save data erasing/clearing I'm sure it is now. It is generally a good idea to allow an option to remove data in the event software does not properly handle corrupt data for example.
I doubt Nintendo will be so easy on Capcom the next time they want to release a title on the 3DS. One of many ways compliance requirements are formed is based on consumer feedback (obvious statement is obvious). I'm sure there were more than enough complaints from customers and the media to push something like this through, if it wasn't already in place to begin with. I'd like to think it was considering stigma over their "Seal of Quality" over the years.
In any case I'm glad developers have realized this even if Nintendo hasn't. Good show Namco Bandai.
I doubt Nintendo will be so easy on Capcom the next time they want to release a title on the 3DS. One of many ways compliance requirements are formed is based on consumer feedback (obvious statement is obvious). I'm sure there were more than enough complaints from customers and the media to push something like this through, if it wasn't already in place to begin with. I'd like to think it was considering stigma over their "Seal of Quality" over the years.
In any case I'm glad developers have realized this even if Nintendo hasn't. Good show Namco Bandai.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:15PM ItsameMatt03 said
I almost choked on my fudge round when I got to that last sentence.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:16PM hrbriley said
I'm glad you can make such a mundane news update interesting...
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:26PM zonic505 said
Holding all the buttons down to erase saved data on a handheld isn't new. It's been done in DS games & it's mentioned in some 3DS manuals, like OoT 3D.
While I still think it's not that bad considering it's just a score/time attack game (believe me, if this was done on something like an RPG where I couldn't start over again from the beginning of the story, yeah, I'd be mad), I don't get why they'd keep this hidden (unless stated in the manual like mentioned before).
While I still think it's not that bad considering it's just a score/time attack game (believe me, if this was done on something like an RPG where I couldn't start over again from the beginning of the story, yeah, I'd be mad), I don't get why they'd keep this hidden (unless stated in the manual like mentioned before).
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:29PM Breakdown said
I think a significant portion of the damage is already done. Namco needs to put these type of fires out more quickly, especially in the internet/fan rage age.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:36PM Scuffles said
So.... instead of a simple menu option .... it is instead arbitrarily buried....
Way to be lazy, you deserve all the ire you reaped. Maybe next time you will spend the 5min to add a simple menu option, Hmmmmmmm?
Way to be lazy, you deserve all the ire you reaped. Maybe next time you will spend the 5min to add a simple menu option, Hmmmmmmm?
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:38PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
@Scuffles
It isn't even like this is a new way to do things. A lot of games have had the option to delete data as a hidden button sequence like this. All of the Pokémon games have done this (yes, you could select New Game and overwrite the existing game, but it had a secret option to completely wipe out the game, too).
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It isn't even like this is a new way to do things. A lot of games have had the option to delete data as a hidden button sequence like this. All of the Pokémon games have done this (yes, you could select New Game and overwrite the existing game, but it had a secret option to completely wipe out the game, too).
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 12:56PM FuzzyPierce said
So didn't they just recently specifically DEFEND the decision not to let data be erased?
Nobody at the company understood that the data could be erased? They only just figured it out?
Nobody at the company understood that the data could be erased? They only just figured it out?
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:05PM superfrick said
Does anyone know if Galaga Legions and Pack Man CE that are included on the cart are also in 3d? If so, I'm pretty interested.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 4:54PM ItsameMatt03 said
@superfrick
The whole package game is in 3D including the original arcade versions of both Pac-man and Galaga.
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The whole package game is in 3D including the original arcade versions of both Pac-man and Galaga.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:27PM SewerShark said
Because its harder to add an "erase save file" in the game menu.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 4:56PM Eight Hundred said
@SewerShark
I always feel some weird temptation when I see that option. I'd rather have it this way.
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I always feel some weird temptation when I see that option. I'd rather have it this way.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:36PM SamE said
Shouldn't need a cheat code to be able to erase something as simple as your save data T_T
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:42PM aaronharmon said
now we just need one for resident evil and we're straight
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:45PM HandheldAddictblogspotcom said
In other words, Namco Bandai lucked out that a developer backdoor code was still in the game to save them from this PR disaster.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:55PM Bighouse said
@HandheldAddictblogspotcom
Pretty much what I was gonna say. Or they were waiting to see if there was a backlash... and there was, so they're all "no wait! Don't go! There's a way to erase the game after all!"
If there was never a backlash they would have never released the button sequence, and that's just wrong imo.
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Pretty much what I was gonna say. Or they were waiting to see if there was a backlash... and there was, so they're all "no wait! Don't go! There's a way to erase the game after all!"
If there was never a backlash they would have never released the button sequence, and that's just wrong imo.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 1:47PM Courtney said
@ColdHeat
No, I'm sure that he was fired by his corporate overlords for daring to give consumers such power. You can't let that kind of sentiment spread through the ranks.
No, I'm sure that he was fired by his corporate overlords for daring to give consumers such power. You can't let that kind of sentiment spread through the ranks.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 2:23PM (Unverified) said
Glad to hear it. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion, I think. It's just a bunch of scores.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 2:30PM Scuffles said
@Ilikesoup
Alarmist, strange I just see people who can identify crap and aren't going to stand for it, can I imply from your comment that you like crap? Gee I wonder what you would have said had they not slashed the price, let me guess "for that overpriced sinking ship", am I close?
Seriously did someone wake up on the wrong side of the I HATE TEH 3DS!!!RAWR!!!1!1!oneone!1!!one!!1! this morning?
And Unpleasant userbase .... wow you just described every console ever created including but not limited to whatever console you fanboi to.
Alarmist, strange I just see people who can identify crap and aren't going to stand for it, can I imply from your comment that you like crap? Gee I wonder what you would have said had they not slashed the price, let me guess "for that overpriced sinking ship", am I close?
Seriously did someone wake up on the wrong side of the I HATE TEH 3DS!!!RAWR!!!1!1!oneone!1!!one!!1! this morning?
And Unpleasant userbase .... wow you just described every console ever created including but not limited to whatever console you fanboi to.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 3:14PM edgore said
Greasy black smoke?
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 3:34PM KaBob799 said
Off topic but interesting, I just looked back at the list of DS games and only 2 of the games I own (I own over 30) came out in the first 7 months and only one of them was any good. Most of the early good games actually came out a year+ after launch so I won't be worrying about the 3DS game library until next june.
Posted: Aug 2nd 2011 5:25PM Seasick Pirate said
"There is no way to erase the save from within the game itself without misusing the hardware, causing corruption," a company rep told Shack, promising dire consequences for anybody who wants to have some control over a product they've paid money for.
What miscommunication?
http://www.destructoid.com/namco-bandai-comments-on-pac-man-3ds-save-slot-207615.phtml
What miscommunication?
http://www.destructoid.com/namco-bandai-comments-on-pac-man-3ds-save-slot-207615.phtml
Posted: Aug 3rd 2011 12:34AM cyberpunk said
So, can't they just release a patch adding "new game" and "erase file" options, just like they would do on PS3? (this being the only console I own and hence I know how it works, not sure about 3DS, but come on, it's new gen!)
Posted: Aug 3rd 2011 3:31AM DietSoap said
Hey now... I think you made that last bit up.
Posted: Aug 3rd 2011 11:20AM Thaad said
So, I guess all those people that said they wouldn't buy this game because they couldn't delete the save will buy the game now, right? Oh you mean they had no intention in the first places? Shocking.
