Amazon celebrates PS3 price drop with discounted games

@MeijinSoki Aren't those jokes too old?

@Jhoalot

They weren't funny to begin with.

@Red Deer

I know, I'm replacing my launch 60 gb and I was like :O

@MrAlex

Ha, I know. Replacing a YLoD'ed 40GB PS3 at the moment. Then theres the fact i still have yet to get Infamous 2. Its a situation above a "win-win" and im not too sure how to express how awesome it is at the moment.

Maybe i'll find out tommorrow when it arrives :D

@Red Deer - Internet shopping is the best. 16gb HP Touchpad for $99... delicious.

@Enosoma
To be honest a lot of the games are 720p. I wish they were in 1080, because of what Sony bragged about at E3 so long ago.

I am by no means a graphics whore though. If a game is fun it's fun and I'll enjoy it.

@Enosoma I'm fairly certain that Uncharted 2&3(not sure about the first one) and lbp run at 1080p.

@Enosoma
Chances are his setup was done incorrectly. You had to only have 1080 checked on the PS3 to output it to that on all occasions, otherwise it'll pick and choose. Some games still might bypass though.

Also, few games on consoles are true to their resolution in rendering. They're simply upscaled to 1080p. So... yeah you're the first person I've seen make this specific and weird complaint.

@880Cloud088
Uncharted 2 and 3 will not run 1080p native. There are BARELY any 1080 (native) titles at all.

@Enosoma
http://wikibin.org/articles/list-of-full-hd-1080p-ps3-games.html
This list might help you out.

@Enosoma

I know what you mean. Every time I turn on my PS3 and start playing some games it takes a good while for me to get use to the low resolution.

I game mostly on PC and I'm always playing at 1920 x 1080 or higher, and it looks super clear.

95% of console games are rendered in 720p or in SubHD (much lower than 720p). The few 1080p games are pretty much arcade games.

and with a large screen, it really sucks.

@Sabrage http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
Actually this one seems more thorough

@Enosoma may i introduce you to the world of PC gaming my friend!! :P we can take care of ur graphical needs!

@Mmmmz

I don't think it's a weird complaint. Why the hell would I want to have to select and deselect and this that and the other on a PS3 just to play in a higher res? It should automatically select the highest resolution.

My point is, I already have an Xbox 360 and from what I could see (basically comparing GTAIV) the resolution seemed quite low.

I'm just sort of a maximizer, if you will. I won't get a PS3 simply because the damned thing is supposed to be all high res, yet some games are downright blurry.

@Baroman

I need no introduction. I just spent $1100 on a pretty good gaming rig.

Wipeout HD is 1080p, if I'm not mistaken.

@Enosoma
You should bring your xbox over to your friend's house (or his ps3 to yours) to do a true comparison. I had a crappy tv before and it really had a poor display. I didn't notice it because it was what I was used to.

@Enosoma great to hear! :) there needs to be more pc gamers out there!

@Enosoma

There aren't any retail titles that run in 1080p on the PS3. On the 360 however there are maybe 10-ish but nearly all of those 10 are god awful with the exception of Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1. PSN and XBLA titles however have a few that are native in 1080p.

@Enosoma

GTAIV runs at 640p on the PS3 btw.

@Enosoma

I guess nobody here can tell you what's up with the difference between the 360 and PS3's resolutions. That or they just don't want to tell you.

The PS3 outputs exactly what it renders (most of the time). The vast, vast majority of retail games this generation render at 720p, so that's what the PS3 output and leaves it up to the TV itself to upscale it to 1080p if that's its native res.

The 360, on the other hand, does the upscaling itself. It doesn't mean that the 360 displays at 1080p natively, that's just the resolution it feeds to the TV after having upscaled the image itself.

Whether the PS3 or 360 looks better is entirely up to the TV. Needless to say, if you have a lower-quality TV that doesn't do upscaling very well the PS3 will look "worse", but if your TV is good at upscaling it can match or even surpass the 360's upscaling abilities. Practically no retail games output at 1080p (with just a few exceptions) regardless of whether they're on the 360 or not. Image quality depends entirely on how good your TV is at upscaling and how good each platform's version is (e.g., whether the 360 version of GTAIV is just better looking than the PS3 version).

To be perfectly honest I don't find anything wrong with my PS3 display on my TV. Sometimes it can actually look better than when I play my 360, but I don't own any games for both systems so I wouldn't be able to make a side-by-side comparison. And even then if you get one of those games where one of the two gets a terrible port it doesn't mean it's the console display's fault.

@PointlessPuppies

The majority of people who buy HD TV's will buy the more affordable types, leaving the super high end TV's to those with a lot of disposable income or a great degree of technophilia.

If you're ever tried to hook a PC up to a bog standard HD flatscreen, you'll see how crappy it looks compared to if it was connected to a monitor. I'm not sure why this is, but it's something I've seen quite often - all my friends are nerds like me, plus I've tried connecting my PC up to a few HD TV's just for convenience (Just so I don't have to set up to sets of screens in my bedroom), and been dissapointed every time.

Given the lack or decent resolution that the TV itself outputs, I'm not sure how super important the difference between 720p and 1080p is anyway, particularly if the screen size is below 40"

@Enosoma GTA 4 runs at 1920 x 1200 on my PC, and with all sorts of added tweaks to make it look better, and play better.

You really should be a PC gamer if you want the absolute best overall experience possible. It requires a bit of tech know-how, but you learn a lot along the way, and any problem you face can be overcome (with varying degrees of technical difficulty).

@Bobrek

Pixel density, refresh rate and response time. My Samsung PX2370 is way better for PC gaming than my 46" Bravia.

@Anticrawl My Beautiful Katamari runs at 1080p. Don't know of any other retail games that do, however.

@Anticrawl You're wrong.

The first ever native 1080p console game was Ridge Racer 7 and it also ran at 60fps, released in Nov 2006 (the first ever 360 game renedered natively at 1920x1080 was NBA Street Homecourt released in February 2007. It was also 1080p on the PS3). There are also well over 60 titles (both retail and PSN) that run natively at 1920x1080 on the PS3 (not including WipEout HD as that runs with a variable resolution - increments between 1280x1080 and 1920x1080 - to maintain 60fps).

A lot of XBLA titles that have been ported to the PSN came with a native reoslution boost. Titles like Lumines, Braid, Geon and many more were all native 720p on the 360 but arrived on the PS3 as native 1080p titles.

@Dick Socrates I get what your going at.... but this is a gaming post about a new deal on a gaming console.... instead of saying to the people who buy this deal "Spend your money helping the poor" or "buy a Eco friendly book(random)" you should be telling the massive companies who waste endless resources to sell us this crap :L:L hell walk down London at night shop owners leave there lights on etc all night and day....... just sayin' bro

@Dick Socrates

I already read books. As for giving to Africa, UNICEF has been begging for my spare change since as long as I can remember. And yet the situation is the same as it was 30 years ago. Throwing money and food at the poor is not a solution. That money should go towards making them self-sufficient or relocating them somewhere where they can be.

@Dick Socrates

Loads of books? Have you been to a bookstore lately? A good book is $30-40, even more in some cases.

@Dick Socrates

You know what, let's not spend any money on anything. Cars? Just walk everywhere! Houses? Find a nice cave to live in! Clothes? You don't need them in a cave because it's dark! Food? Plant a garden and hunt off the land! But if we find any money or anything of value we'll be sure to just give it all away. Yeah that sounds lovely.

@ItsameMatt03

Why am I downvoted? I'm stating facts not some biased opinion. I only buy the exclusives for my PS3. All the games in that sale I already own for the 360. Geez. I don't get how quick people are to downvote someone, because God forbid someone doesn't buy games exactly the way they do.

@xiLeShadow I know, it's so horrible having to look at anything under 1080p. My eyes begin to bleed, followed by a loud ringing in my head from the lower quality sound. In fact, I can't even go outside because life isn't as good as 1080p

@Nova17899

Anything under 1080p hurts your eyes? Umm.. so you play like 5 games?

@Faenix or pc games

@Faenix Sarcasm my friend

What you're referring to is caused by pixel density. A 55" 1080p display will always look worse than a 22" 1080p display due to the pixels per inch. There's nothing you can do about it except get used to it.