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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 8:16PM The Aquacharger said

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And you all thought it was Visceral and were ready to start the hate train on them!

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 8:37PM mcnichoj said

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So is ESRB gonna sue them?

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 8:43PM The Aquacharger said

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@mcnichoj
Why would the ESRB sue them? Not only are they out of ESRB's touch (since they'd use the PEGI system ifI understand correctly) it was still a mock site. Which mocking of anything is almost always protected underlaw.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:01PM mcnichoj said

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@The Aquacharger
They used a ESRB logo at the start of the video although the ad wasn't for a real game so I guess it doesn't matter but however if it was a real game that gave itself a rating before it was actually rated then it could be held liable.

That aside, this was a terrible marketing campaign. It was in English even though it it's for a Dutch audience, it incorporated a fake video game even though I'm gonna assume not a single video game thing will be in the actual show and lastly the video was hosted on YouTube instead of the broadcasting channels own website where it could (and it did) get misconstrued as a real game.

I was offended by the commercial and infact was oddly aroused but this was a terrible idea on all fronts.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:05PM The Aquacharger said

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@mcnichoj
I can agree that not putting it dutch instead of english (unless a lot of there speak English) but not putting in their youtube channel would've killed the viral campaign for it. They however were kind enough to cut it off before it got too out of control.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2011 3:22AM Third said

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@The Aquacharger
We do speak English over here. Close to half of the commercials shown here are in English, even for Dutch products. This is especially true for trailers for films and games, which are always shown in English unless they're targetting a younger audience. So showing it in Dutch would've made it far less realistic.

As for the sensitivity issue, of course a US audience is going to be much more sensitive about this. The Dutch didn't really own slaves, we traded them (which is kinda worse). This means there really aren't any former slaves in the Netherlands, there was no civil war over (among many other things) slave rights, there was no Martin Luther King jr. (at the time the Dutch were more concerned about Martin Luther) and there is no Black History Month.

We know about slavery, we know about our part in it, but there's no real emotional connection to it, it all happened 'over there'. It gets downplayed a lot in history classes too, the entire era in fact. We know about the V.O.C. and that they did a bit of trading here and there, but little to no mention of the Dutch actually being a commercial superpower or our four (!) wars with the English.

The lack of knowledge and emotional connecting to the issues of slavery among the Dutch is what this series is trying to address, which is why they needed a campaign that was shocking and reached a large audience. And it seems they managed to do that.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2011 6:39AM bm111 said

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"It was in English even though it it's for a Dutch audience,"


If Gamescom were held in the Netherlands, you wouldn't see 99% of everything translated and voiced over in the local language despite it being such an international event. Unlike Germany, we're not so in love with our own language that we insist on forcing it on everything that comes in even if doing that makes it sound stupid as hell.

We tend to respect people's original work, hence most games and shows are in English, unless it's for kids.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2011 10:39AM JonahStein said

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@Third

Why is everyone so sensitive about cultural differences?
Hey, btw, have I shown you this hilarious cartoon drawing of the Muslim prophet Mohammed? I found it in this Danish newspaper a couple years ago...

I say keep pushing that envelope, you Nordic trailblazers!
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Posted: Sep 8th 2011 11:30AM mcnichoj said

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@Third
So they WANTED an uproar so then they could show their viewers why it was an important issue, thanks for clearing that up.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2011 12:57PM bm111 said

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@JonahStein

Excuse me if I'm misinterpreting this but, are you saying the riots and death threats over that cartoon were somehow not completely ridiculous? Are you saying that cartoon shouldn't have been drawn?
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 8:38PM Demon G Sides said

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It did it's job phenomenally well. Now I really want to watch the series!

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 8:45PM The Aquacharger said

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@Demon G Sides
Yeah I want to watch the series now aswell. Though it did show how unmature we Americans(not saying you're an American incase you are. Just including my self since I am one) about this topic.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:08PM Demon G Sides said

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@The Aquacharger

Oh I am definitely of the American persuasion, and I agree wholeheartedly that we as Americans are definitely over sensitive about our own history. If we can't learn from the past, we're doomed to repeat it, or at least make egregious mistakes similar. However, at no point should we take this history so seriously that we can't even satirize it without someone having a shitfit about it.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:09PM The Aquacharger said

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@Demon G Sides
100% agree.
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 11:46PM TheDarkWayne said

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@Demon G Sides How was this satirical though? If anything, it was satirizing the video game industry, but it was a very graphic and real depiction of slavery. Even so, I think that's a pretty stupid thing to say. You don't have to be able to make jokes about painful issuses to not be doomed to repeat them. I think we're pretty unlikely to repeat the Holocaust, but nobody thinks jokes about that are funny except assholes on the internet.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2011 8:11PM KillaPat said

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@TheDarkWayne
Guess that makes me an asshole...
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 8:49PM TheShaper said

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Wasn't that a little obvious? Ok, not the "Dutch TV history series", but it surely was a viral to something else.

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 8:57PM Red Runner said

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I...just...what the huh now? I don't...what...


WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:07PM The Aquacharger said

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@Red Runner
Man who would've thought that Visceral / the KKK would be creating a show to about the Dutch slave trade?
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:18PM broken 4th wall said

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@Red Runner

oh hey how's it going guy who got all upset about nothing!
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 10:20PM Heisenberg said

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@Red Runner

POINT AND LAUGH! SALT THE WOUND!
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 8:58PM aray48 said

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I hope the series isn't as funny as the trailer was.

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:16PM CBA25 said

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There's a children's version? I want to see how that will turn out...

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:38PM Special Agent Steve said

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A dolphin... it's beautiful.

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 9:39PM Drakkenfyre said

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So,

1. It's a viral ad.
2. They "didn't intend for it to offend."

Looks like I was right.

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 10:04PM Hank Hill said

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Yep, just as I expected... it was a pretty well-made trailer though.

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 10:23PM Heisenberg said

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I find it hard to believe they didn't mean to offend people. The ad might not be malicious in nature and may not be fueled by hate, but it was certainly meant to offend people as a means of drumming up attention for it. It's a viral ad after all.

Posted: Sep 8th 2011 6:45AM bm111 said

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@Heisenberg

Everything is offensive to you americans, so no wonder you're projecting and thinking this is something specifically meant to offend someone.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2011 8:28AM Spookimitsu said

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@bm111

Ba-zing! If the shoe fits, as the saying goes... and this was supposed to be a wake-up call to the Dutch, not us Yanks.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2011 10:40AM Heisenberg said

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@bm111

Who says I'm offended by this? I'm saying that everyone involved in the marketing for this knew that people were going to get offended by this. If they didn't, they must be really thick headed and out of touch with the world. I'm not saying it's a bad marketing campaign and that they should burn for it, but I'm saying that they knew going into this that people were not going to take this viral ad lightly and that any publicity is good publicity. They certainly succeeded in drumming up attention for their show and their viral ad was great because of it. I'm not condemning anyone for being a bad person. I'm just saying that it's a viral ad and that being shocking is a big part of viral ads and they tend to offend people.

So please, read my comment and learn to interpret it correctly before making assumptions about me based on nothing but our point of disagreement, you barbaric non-American :)
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Posted: Sep 7th 2011 10:52PM shadowhowl1900 said

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ882QYzr-M

pretty much sums up everything

Posted: Sep 7th 2011 10:55PM Dooliss said

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So Mario is trying to tell me "Its'a very good!"

Posted: Sep 8th 2011 12:22AM Orionsaint said

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Wow is that the guy from Ghost Hunters?

Posted: Sep 8th 2011 2:17AM gatotsu911 said

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I don't think there is a proper emoticon for my reaction to this.

Posted: Sep 8th 2011 6:23AM Eight Hundred said

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"De Slavernij Junior" is the funniest thing I've read this day.

Posted: Sep 8th 2011 7:18AM YouAintFatYouAintNotin said

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So its not a real game :(...

Posted: Sep 8th 2011 8:09AM LuckyFlaming said

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Maybe someone should make another viral about a video game called "Extreme Pleasure"

Yeah. That will definitely get someone's attention.

Posted: Sep 8th 2011 9:16AM Ebok007 said

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"There's only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch."

Posted: Sep 8th 2011 2:27PM Malvicus said

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I have a few questions. Who is that brother on the left? Is his name Tom and does he have a nephew or niece?

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