GTA IV surpasses 22M shipped, franchise at 114M total
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Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick revealed at a recent conference that Grand Theft Auto 4 has shipped over 22 million units. Gamasutra listened in on ThinkEquity's Growth conference, where the executive noted that the latest installment surpassed the 21.5 million shipped by GTA: San Andreas, with the franchise reaching 114 million shipped since 1997.
Zelnick also discussed how downloadable content can limit rapid used sales for new titles, a tactic the developer experimented with for GTA IV but got exceedingly good at with Red Dead Redemption. He said that once core development is done, doing the development for DLC in a high-quality way is a lot easier and quicker.
"At the time we put out Red Dead Redemption in May, we didn't even have a fantasy that we'd be putting out a zombie title [the Undead Nightmare DLC] for Halloween. But we [did], as it happens." Red Dead Redemption has shipped 12.5 million units in a little over a year.
Zelnick also discussed how downloadable content can limit rapid used sales for new titles, a tactic the developer experimented with for GTA IV but got exceedingly good at with Red Dead Redemption. He said that once core development is done, doing the development for DLC in a high-quality way is a lot easier and quicker.
"At the time we put out Red Dead Redemption in May, we didn't even have a fantasy that we'd be putting out a zombie title [the Undead Nightmare DLC] for Halloween. But we [did], as it happens." Red Dead Redemption has shipped 12.5 million units in a little over a year.
Reader Comments (49)
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 8:52PM Schlecht said
I REALLY hope the swingset launch glitch makes it into GTA V. IV was awesome; still play it.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:08PM DarkTwisted said
@Schlecht
Wouldn't mind flying a passenger jet, like the one in the hanger in Las Venturas, with the updated physics and graphics as well... it'd be so awesome
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Wouldn't mind flying a passenger jet, like the one in the hanger in Las Venturas, with the updated physics and graphics as well... it'd be so awesome
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 8:57PM MLC said
Yay for Rockstar!
Been fans of theirs for a long time. Can't wait for Max Payne 3!
Also, I hope they announce the next GTA soon!
Been fans of theirs for a long time. Can't wait for Max Payne 3!
Also, I hope they announce the next GTA soon!
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:00PM slickie said
My wishlist for GTA V:
1. GTA IV's quality storytelling
2. San Andreas's variety in vehicles and missions
3. Vice City's atmosphere and nostalgia
4. GTA3's focus on the Mafia
1. GTA IV's quality storytelling
2. San Andreas's variety in vehicles and missions
3. Vice City's atmosphere and nostalgia
4. GTA3's focus on the Mafia
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:08PM blueskyv201 said
@slickie
Dude, you summarized it beautifully. Especially #3, I loved Vice City's setting and overall atmosphere.
And, in general, I hope GTA V takes itself a little less seriously than GTA IV did.
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Dude, you summarized it beautifully. Especially #3, I loved Vice City's setting and overall atmosphere.
And, in general, I hope GTA V takes itself a little less seriously than GTA IV did.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:17PM A Sandwich said
@blueskyv201
I like the more serious turn that GTA IV took. Actually, I'd like an even darker and more serious tone for GTA V. The problem with IV is that it took a serious story into a pretty goofy world. It was occasionally jarring. Saints Row took the goofy low road all the way, and I say let THQ have it. I don't need the two biggest sandbox genre games competing over who can make the best dildo weapon.
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I like the more serious turn that GTA IV took. Actually, I'd like an even darker and more serious tone for GTA V. The problem with IV is that it took a serious story into a pretty goofy world. It was occasionally jarring. Saints Row took the goofy low road all the way, and I say let THQ have it. I don't need the two biggest sandbox genre games competing over who can make the best dildo weapon.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 10:25PM A Sandwich said
@Mmmmz
I get that. I'm just saying that they went for serious but they didn't go far enough.
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I get that. I'm just saying that they went for serious but they didn't go far enough.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 12:42AM Slight of Ham said
@slickie,,,Dude, if Rockstar dosn't make GTA 5, I think you should. That is exactly what I'm craving.
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Posted: Sep 17th 2011 4:13AM ComedyInK said
@A Sandwich
Rockstar needed more time on GTA4, it wasn't totally completed. Look at some of the screen shots that came out when it was announced. They had a Silenced Pistol! And Jimmy Peg story line just didn't have a lot of substance, and I know, I've played the game over 15 times total.
I really hope though they make GTAV for the newer Consoles so they can have better Tech to really mold their world and enough time.
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Rockstar needed more time on GTA4, it wasn't totally completed. Look at some of the screen shots that came out when it was announced. They had a Silenced Pistol! And Jimmy Peg story line just didn't have a lot of substance, and I know, I've played the game over 15 times total.
I really hope though they make GTAV for the newer Consoles so they can have better Tech to really mold their world and enough time.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 2:18PM dioxholster said
@blueskyv201
The more serious the better, and none of this trivial satire bull, they need to go all the way. But that doesnt seem likely seeing the casting info for V. And hopefully no more minority criminals, its got to a point where every minorty is a criminal badass. How about a the protagonist who is a nerd who can hack stuff? how about a little change Rockstar? I would totally want to play as a nerd like Freeman who is edgy enough to wield guns and stuff you get the picture.
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The more serious the better, and none of this trivial satire bull, they need to go all the way. But that doesnt seem likely seeing the casting info for V. And hopefully no more minority criminals, its got to a point where every minorty is a criminal badass. How about a the protagonist who is a nerd who can hack stuff? how about a little change Rockstar? I would totally want to play as a nerd like Freeman who is edgy enough to wield guns and stuff you get the picture.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 2:29PM Brian Griffin said
@A Sandwich
The story in GTA was OK--nothing more, nothing less. But it took itself WAY too seriously. And the forced "man-dating" to keep your relationships at a decent level was downright frustrating. I've loved every GTA ever made, but if it wasn't for the excellent multiplayer modes of GTA4, I'm not entirely sure it would have been as memorable for many.
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The story in GTA was OK--nothing more, nothing less. But it took itself WAY too seriously. And the forced "man-dating" to keep your relationships at a decent level was downright frustrating. I've loved every GTA ever made, but if it wasn't for the excellent multiplayer modes of GTA4, I'm not entirely sure it would have been as memorable for many.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 4:33PM blueskyv201 said
@slickie
I feel like San Andreas and Vice City struck the perfect balance of serious story but also had it's fair share of fun missions as well as ridiculous stunts and challenges. GTA IV was a tad too dark and serious at times, I dont want that again.
At the same time, I don't want GTA to become another Saints Row. F*ck no! The perfect balance is hard to achieve, but they've done it before, they can do it again.
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I feel like San Andreas and Vice City struck the perfect balance of serious story but also had it's fair share of fun missions as well as ridiculous stunts and challenges. GTA IV was a tad too dark and serious at times, I dont want that again.
At the same time, I don't want GTA to become another Saints Row. F*ck no! The perfect balance is hard to achieve, but they've done it before, they can do it again.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:03PM Wizardsofwaverly said
Niko bellick was original which is why I liked it
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:05PM Master Troll said
That picture would had been hilarious if it had the caption, "UMAD?".
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:27PM nycjunglist said
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:05PM arucious said
IV's engine in San andreas would make my life perfect :< I liked working out (Workout online :D?)
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:07PM kentuckyfried said
i still need to play San Andreas. =(
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:07PM arucious said
I really want them to make a game about ancient rome... Gladiator fights and wars online / Making a shield house (legion?) with your friends...
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:13PM PedoJokerBear said
their dlc strategy was/is great.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:19PM soorma said
A friend told me he didn't like RDR. He hasn't been able to speak since.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:25PM APCMice said
You hear that EA? Make good DLC, not online passes.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 10:08PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said
@APCMice Shhh, but what about all those omg-dlc-should-be-on-game boycotts they'll then have to face?
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Posted: Sep 17th 2011 8:06AM superfrog96 said
@Crayola Q Pants ESQ
Nobody expects dlc the size of Ballad of Gay Tony to be in the game. A few extra costumes for £3 are the things that piss people off.
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Nobody expects dlc the size of Ballad of Gay Tony to be in the game. A few extra costumes for £3 are the things that piss people off.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:29PM freelancer91 said
I wanted my money back. I was driven nearly insane by my fat cousin constantly asking me to go on a date with him...That's what I get for playing Saints Row 2 before GTA4...Once you have played SR2, GTA4 kinda sucks in comparison....
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 10:24PM A Sandwich said
@freelancer91
I know, right. I mean, sure, GTA IV had better graphics, gameplay, story, physics, replay value and online play, but Saints Row has a restaurant called Freckle Bitch's, which is, I think, a Hi-larious pun about Wendy's. Saints Row = Insta-win!
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I know, right. I mean, sure, GTA IV had better graphics, gameplay, story, physics, replay value and online play, but Saints Row has a restaurant called Freckle Bitch's, which is, I think, a Hi-larious pun about Wendy's. Saints Row = Insta-win!
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 10:55PM A Sandwich said
@Lucky48
More overall fun for you, maybe. Shoddy gameplay, stupid humor, and horrible physics make for a lackluster experience in my book. And I don't think every game needs a customizable main character. It can certainly be a cool feature, but it ultimately adds very little to the overall experience, in my opinion.
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More overall fun for you, maybe. Shoddy gameplay, stupid humor, and horrible physics make for a lackluster experience in my book. And I don't think every game needs a customizable main character. It can certainly be a cool feature, but it ultimately adds very little to the overall experience, in my opinion.
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 11:32PM Haizeus said
@A Sandwich
I'm with Sandwich on this. I'll never understand the "overall fun" argument. EVERYTHING in the game contributes to overall fun. This non-existent fun factor talking point doesn't even make sense. Though I can understand the opinions I don't share, I absolutely had more fun with GTA4.
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I'm with Sandwich on this. I'll never understand the "overall fun" argument. EVERYTHING in the game contributes to overall fun. This non-existent fun factor talking point doesn't even make sense. Though I can understand the opinions I don't share, I absolutely had more fun with GTA4.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 9:19AM A Sandwich said
@Lucky48
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I had a blast with GTA IV, and it's the one game that my friends and I always come back to. Taking the gameplay lessons that Rockstar learned with Red Dead, and the technology that they came into contact with in L.A. Noire, and I don't see how GTA V could be less than fantastic.
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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I had a blast with GTA IV, and it's the one game that my friends and I always come back to. Taking the gameplay lessons that Rockstar learned with Red Dead, and the technology that they came into contact with in L.A. Noire, and I don't see how GTA V could be less than fantastic.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 2:13PM MarkezJM said
@A Sandwich
Agreed, although I think it belongs in the Saints Row series. Having my own special fatty with a huge mohawk whose voice I could choose, that would appear in every cut-scene the way I made him was pretty cool. I definitely don't want it in the GTA series, though. I don't even think it belongs in the ME series.
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Agreed, although I think it belongs in the Saints Row series. Having my own special fatty with a huge mohawk whose voice I could choose, that would appear in every cut-scene the way I made him was pretty cool. I definitely don't want it in the GTA series, though. I don't even think it belongs in the ME series.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 2:31PM Brian Griffin said
@A Sandwich
You completely missed the point. It's not the low brow humor, it was that the game was simply more fun than GTA. I enjoyed both immensely, but each excels at a different area.
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You completely missed the point. It's not the low brow humor, it was that the game was simply more fun than GTA. I enjoyed both immensely, but each excels at a different area.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 4:03PM A Sandwich said
@Brian Griffin
No. You're missing the point. The phrase "more fun" is completely sub-fu*cking-jective. It's a fact that GTA IV is technically superior to Saints Row. It's a fact that it has a better, more capable physics engine. It's your opinion that Saints Row is somehow more fun. And saying something is more fun is not an argument in and of itself. A poorly-coded, poorly-written mess is not fun to me. That's my opinion.
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No. You're missing the point. The phrase "more fun" is completely sub-fu*cking-jective. It's a fact that GTA IV is technically superior to Saints Row. It's a fact that it has a better, more capable physics engine. It's your opinion that Saints Row is somehow more fun. And saying something is more fun is not an argument in and of itself. A poorly-coded, poorly-written mess is not fun to me. That's my opinion.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 6:17PM Brian Griffin said
@A Sandwich
And me saying Saints Row 2 was more fun is MY opinion, that's why I said it. What i was attempting to say was that the general feel and play of SR2 was indeed more "fun" than the feel of GTA.
And, I was replying to your INITIAL response was a put-down which made it seem as though anyone who enjoyed SR2 was solely placated by bathroom humor.
Yes, the graphics were not on par with GTA , but SR2 made up for that with an environment that fostered more freedom, a system that gave players infinite customization, more variety in missions, and very well-implemented co-op. And, frankly, the story in GTA wasn't anything spectacular, so that's subjective. I enjoyed both games immensely for what they were, but SR2 was more "fun."
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And me saying Saints Row 2 was more fun is MY opinion, that's why I said it. What i was attempting to say was that the general feel and play of SR2 was indeed more "fun" than the feel of GTA.
And, I was replying to your INITIAL response was a put-down which made it seem as though anyone who enjoyed SR2 was solely placated by bathroom humor.
Yes, the graphics were not on par with GTA , but SR2 made up for that with an environment that fostered more freedom, a system that gave players infinite customization, more variety in missions, and very well-implemented co-op. And, frankly, the story in GTA wasn't anything spectacular, so that's subjective. I enjoyed both games immensely for what they were, but SR2 was more "fun."
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 9:32PM Andyr2120 said
Looking forward to GTA V, whatever it may turn out to be!
Posted: Sep 16th 2011 10:10PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said
Just give me a nicer shooting experience and I'll be happy. For everything else that GTA does well, they have really got to step it up in that area
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 1:20AM mguniverse said
They just released all the old GTA games on the Mac App Store, and they have been doing very well.
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 1:23AM stamps79 said
Grand Theft Auto: London, 1969 and Vice City are my favorite titles in the GTA series. I also did enjoy GTA 4,.. but I really enjoyed the DLC content "The Lost and Dammed and Ballad of Gay Tony"
RDR is currently my favorite Rockstar game, I enjoyed every part of it and even enjoyed killing the dead in the DLC "Undead Nightmare". ( can't wait for the next expansion)
I would love to see the RDR series keep going, just like GTA. The San Diego Studio did a fantastic job on the game and I would love to see them continue it in the future. RDR 2 for Fall of 2013. =)
RDR is currently my favorite Rockstar game, I enjoyed every part of it and even enjoyed killing the dead in the DLC "Undead Nightmare". ( can't wait for the next expansion)
I would love to see the RDR series keep going, just like GTA. The San Diego Studio did a fantastic job on the game and I would love to see them continue it in the future. RDR 2 for Fall of 2013. =)
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 9:42AM FreakSheet said
So many dead hookers...
Posted: Sep 17th 2011 5:50PM RaultheGhoul said
My god thats a lot of underage gamers running over civilians on the sidewalk! Gosh I loved middleschool.
Posted: Sep 18th 2011 10:03AM Booyah74 said
GTA 4 for me was a borefest.Yes graphically it's improved,and yes there were some interesting new features.But the more serious storyline killed it for me,i'd have Vice City and San Andreas over GTA4 all day long.The missions had no variety and the characters were quite boring and uninteresting,i just felt i was doing the same thing over and over again drive somewhere shoot em all,drive somewhere else shoot em all.The only thing that was fun was playing pool bowling or going to a bar or strip joint.
The key word for me is FUN and thats what GTA 3 Vice City and San Andreas was to play.Varied missions and funny and interesting characters,such as The Truth,O.G Loc, "Big" Mitch Baker,Ken Rosenberg and Steve Scott just to name a few. There was nothing better than popping into an Ammunation store and hearing the store owners funny comments as you left.I really enjoyed using the radio control cars or planes blowing stuff up lol.And the Vehicle missions were waaay more fun and varied than GTA4.And for me how good were the Radio stations in GTA3,Vice City and San Andreas,it was well funny listening to Pastors outrageous views on pressing issues on KCHAT in Vice City.Or crusing around to classic 80's tracks around miami.
No wonder many gamers want the older GTA games touching up in hd and being released as a collection.GTA 4 was boring for me,but hey thats just my opinion,altho alot of my gaming buddies all think the same!
The key word for me is FUN and thats what GTA 3 Vice City and San Andreas was to play.Varied missions and funny and interesting characters,such as The Truth,O.G Loc, "Big" Mitch Baker,Ken Rosenberg and Steve Scott just to name a few. There was nothing better than popping into an Ammunation store and hearing the store owners funny comments as you left.I really enjoyed using the radio control cars or planes blowing stuff up lol.And the Vehicle missions were waaay more fun and varied than GTA4.And for me how good were the Radio stations in GTA3,Vice City and San Andreas,it was well funny listening to Pastors outrageous views on pressing issues on KCHAT in Vice City.Or crusing around to classic 80's tracks around miami.
No wonder many gamers want the older GTA games touching up in hd and being released as a collection.GTA 4 was boring for me,but hey thats just my opinion,altho alot of my gaming buddies all think the same!
Posted: Sep 18th 2011 10:05AM Booyah74 said
Sorry i meant Pastor Richards comments not just Pastor lol.
Posted: Sep 19th 2011 12:14PM cleopatrudo said
played GTAIV for 20 minutes and then I borrowed it to a friend who got robbed. I don't know if I want to play a game that old considering that now I'm 70% into the story of Read Dead Redemption. Do you guys think is still worth it?








