Finally! PS3 Firmware 3.72 arrives, changes everything

@Roxas560

10 minutes isn't bad, but these updates are still kind of annoying. That's all.

@Roxas560
Except that xbox updates take about 10 seconds. Which mathematically makes playstation's updates take 60 times longer.

@Roxas560 I shouldn't have to update the firmware once a month.

@Faceless Troll
im pretty sure you leave your PS3 idling for longer amounts of time, updating for 5-10 mins wont kill you.

@Roxas560 It's not bad until you sit down to play a game and suddenly have this patch to download and install first.

It's also annoying at the frequency they come out. 10 minutes ain't THAT bad, but the amount of time spent patching overall is kind of a little excessive.

Especially if the game you want to play also has a 100+mb patch.

@omgJOHN
i can agree on the patches being annoying, i remember getting ready to play Resistance and there was a 600Mb+ one waiting for me

@Roxas560 On it's own it's not bad. But then consider that it's 10 minutes if you have a wired connection, which doubles to 20 minutes if you are on wireless (because wireless on PS3 is super slow for some reason). And then consider that the title you want to play has 3 updates, each of which takes another 10 minutes. Now that quick match of Killzone 3 you wanted to play turned into an hour of updating.

And as others have mentioned, the Xbox typically takes less than 30 seconds to do these things on the exact same wifi network. The PS3 is even on a DMZ, while the Xbox is not!

@Faceless Troll
Playstation Network gets hacked: MORE UPDATES COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS!
Playstation Network isn't getting hacked: WHY ALL THE UPDATES!?

@Player1
there is something wrong with your setup then, on wireless my PS3 downloads updates at around 8-10mins. troll harder

@Faceless Troll

"I shouldn't have to update the firmware once a month"

I agree.....its such a tedious task having to update your gaming machines firmware once in a while! I mean just imagine what you could have done in the 10 minutes that Sony spent trying to move the console you paid for forward! In fact lets all go back to the Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) where we know we wont get any updates because were all too scared of a little change!!

@carmaction

..........Updates had nothing to do with that and wouldn't have prevented anything in regards to the PSN itself. Maybe if they had updated the network security on their end but the end user never would have seen that.

@Roxas560

There is a fair bit of difference in letting a system idle while you choose to go do something else and going to start a game and getting hit with 10min of updating screen.

@carmaction I'm pretty sure console updates have nothing to do with PSN security.

@Scuffles
point was that people complain when you have to wait 10minutes for a minor update. 10mins? thats like one free-for-all match in CoD.

@Roxas560

My wifes dad inherited a PS3 that he uses for Netflix. Whenever there's an update he can't watch Netflix. That's about as much as he knows about his magic movie playing box.

To somebody like that, these frequent "updates" really make a PS3 undesirable for someone that isn't a gamers and technologically saavy.

@Roxas560
I don't mind patches as a concept. But when I haven't played my PS3 for a while (happens often, we don't all game 24/7 unfortunately) and say I want to play an older game... it's not unusual to take over an hour before I actually get to a title menu between system updates and then title updates. and I've got a nice cable connection. If I were on DSL in my area it would literally be hours longer... The alternative is don't install updates and then you can't play online.

Contrast to the xbox, where the longest I've ever had to wait was during a full dash update and a game title update which took a total of 30 minutes and happens at most twice a year...

Factor in that the PS3 has a "solution" in the form of automatic updates atleast for the console, which you have to pay extra for, and I think getting annoyed at frequent, trivial, time consuming updates is pretty well justified. It's not that updates are bad, it's that the competition (the 360) does SUCH a better job from a user perspective (and this is MS, not known for getting things right generally speaking...) that the PS3 updates are so distracting.

it creates a situation where I avoid using the PS3 because I know I'll have to wait for updates. So the longer I don't use the PS3 the more updates there are and the more I avoid it... I've bought 360 versions of games specifically to avoid update hassles on the PS3.

Has nothing to do with the system itself, the services, the games, etc. just the user experience of updating.

@Roxas560 What I do: Click update, surf the net for ten minutes, come back and it's done. People don't understand how hard that is to do.

@Unarmed Turkey Maybe your time isn't worth that much. But at my hourly rate those 10 minutes add up when I'm forced to do them every month.

@Kyle4
my thoughts exactly

@Roxas560 600 MB? I wish!

I recently picked up Heavy Rain and fired that bad boy up with is 1+ GB update (for a feature I don't need.. Thanks Move!). It's the first game I've had to wait over an hour to play after putting it in the system (between the updates and the "must install game").

@The Moof
ive heard of that, and it really put me off from buying it, stupid mandatory patches

@Roxas560
Amen homie.....Amen!

@Roxas560 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ8NhxD0-Ek&feature=channel_video_title

This feels relevant.

@Co I'll try to remember to test this tonight, but I know you can use Netflix without logging into the PSN, so I wouldn't be surprised if you could use it without updating.

People seem to forget that if you're not playing an online game, (or trying to use the store or sync trophies... any PSN stuff), you can put off any of these updates for later (system updates or game updates).

It's all relative, 10 minutes of torture or 10 minutes of sex. Sometimes 10 minutes is just too long, sometimes not enough.

In this case, it's definitely at least 9 minutes longer than it would take on an Xbox (or PC, or smartphone, or.. anything not a PS3).

@Roxas560 People need to remember that the PS3 is also a Blu-ray player and needs updates on a regular basis to keep up with the ever evolving encryption that different studios use on their discs.

@The Moof Except that you don't actually *have* to download that update. It's an SP game. When prompted, just hit circle to decline the update, and get right to the game.

And for the people that say "I hardly ever play my PS3 and when I turn it on I have to download three updates," even if you don't play it, it's not that big a deal to turn it on once in a while to check for an update. When I read about a new update (before I had PS+), right when I got home I would power on the PS3 and start the update, even though I'm usually not going to play for a couple hours. Takes 10 seconds and it's ready to go when I want to play.

@End User
No no no... we don't want to hear any of your rational logic! Moaning and raging about our precious time is the appropriate response. Get with the program!

@xxMayDay31xx

I don't get it, are you trying to tell us that XBOX 360 and PS3 are getting exactly the same update? Because if it is not the same why would it take same amount of time?

@Roxas560

No! F' all the Xbox haters and Ps fanboys.

I got DC Universe Online on Friday and I put the game in all giddy and aching to play at 8:10pm. Thanks to updates and installations I wasn't able to play until 11:30pm!!

Over 3 friggin' hrs is totally unacceptable and It baffles me how you people even begin to defend it.

@Player1 Wow, are you serious? I just did this firmware update wirelessly in only one minute. If this took twenty minutes, I'd have been mad... It never takes more than three minutes at most.

@Roxas560
I agree the second someone sees an update it's like they're programed to complain, by the time they've finished working themselves into a lather the download is already over.

@Roxas560 What's everyone talking about, 10 minutes? I JUST did the update, it took 4m 5s. Not a big loss of time, if you ask me.

@Roxas560 but your wife doesnt understand why you have to wait 10 minutes to watch a movie.

@Roxas560 It's bad when you're not aware of a patch waiting and then one day go "oh awesome, I've got 20 minutes free to myself to be able to sit down, relax, and play the multiplayer component of my game... oh."

@The Moof

You dont have to install the update if you dont have long to play, you can simply press cancel and play the game as usual and when you do have the time install the update. Sure you cant play any online games but if you dont have long to play online might not be a good idea...

@Faceless Troll you also shouldn't have to pay a fee so that your ps3 loads mandatory updates automatically.

@The Moof

Thats sony and the speed of MS Dos for ya!

@Unarmed Turkey

"I mean just imagine what you could have done in the 10 minutes that Sony spent trying to move the console you paid for forward!"

Except that they're not really. If these updates had actual new functionality, I'm sure very few people would have an issue with them. I know I wouldn't...

But as a non-PS Plus member, I can't remember the last time that I got any worthwhile value from one of these updates.

@Belial There's nothing wrong with my wireless. I have a 80gb backwards compat version, it's entirely possible that Sony changed out the wireless on the PS3 in later models. But I assure you I had spent hours upon hours dealing with connection issues whenever a firmware update for PS3 came out. I used to use a WRT54G, of which I tried multiple routers. The PS3 is on a DMZ so there should not be any port issues. That model of router didn't even support as much port forwarding as Sony recommends. There was like 20 different entries they recommend. I now use an Airport Extreme which doesn't freak out every time Sony updates firmware, but it's not faster on wireless. All of the other wireless devices in my house are fine. It just is and always has been wireless on the stupid PS3. It's painfully slow. And I'm not the only person who has the issue, try googling it.

@whylekat

That may have been to do with the 25GB install. A huge install... you wouldn't have to deal with waiting that long for any other game...

@DarkTwisted

Heavy Rain took just over 1 hour & 45 minutes. Uncharted 2 took 40 minutes.

My point is that any other system I've ever owned (including PC!), I've never had to wait so long to play a new game.

@whylekat

i know i have been called everything from an A-hole to a Troll but it all pales in comparisson to this PATHETIC crowd of whiners... oh my God... i remember when a system could not update AT ALL... this is the very first gen of systems that update themselves and we all bitch about it as if they (Sony) should get with the times.

You are all seriously a little fcuking pathetic.

@Roxas560

Yeah I've heard people talk about super slow download times on PSN but I've never had an issue I remember (vaguely) reading something about it having to do with your NAT type. Could be completely wrong.

Going off my own experience with downloading stuff on XBL I do remember it being exponentially faster than PSN for pretty much everything. My 360 seemed to DL faster than everything else though including iTunes.

@Roxas560

Joystiq ran a story comparing console DL speeds a while back
http://i.joystiq.com/2009/02/03/mtv-teams-up-with-mega-man-to-compare-console-download-speeds/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LkusicUL2s

related.

@xxMayDay31xx Depends on the file size and download speed of hte user. PSN update today took me 35 seconds. Joystiq people have slow net I guess.

@PR0F3TA....Your WHINING has just landed you in the very crowd you despise.

@The Moof - You didn't need the Heavy Rain update? So, umm, why didn't you just cancel it?

@Co netlfix sucks ass anyways. besides they never even update it. troll harder