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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:39PM Shadowbender said

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Lies or not, it's still rather sad to see one lose a job.

Oh well...mistakes happen.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:26PM Faceless Troll said

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@Shadowbender Actually, no. When they lie to get the job it's not sad at all.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:41PM wunwunx said

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SO MANY EPISODES OF EXPERT ANALYSIS ARE NOW IN JEOPARDY
PROFESSOR, WE MUST BEGIN ANEW.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:46PM King Johngie the Fourth said

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His cover was blown. What a patriot, taking the fall like that for his country

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:49PM superfrick said

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I would also like to take the moment to admit that I am not a Green Beret, Ninja, or Roman Legionnaire.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:33PM Faceless Troll said

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@superfrick I would like to take a moment to admit that I am not classified as human, I am a meat popsicle.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:52PM Outkastprince said

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Daly expressed regret at having "misrepresented my role by creating the impression that I was a 'Green Beret, when in fact his was a bit darker in the seams."

I assume that's what he first had written down before it was rewritten.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:55PM elliotrock said

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who cares? don't know why US has this obsession with respect for dumb-arses who die for the corporate elites. I don't respect anyone with a gun, uniform or not.

Get a life and do something positive for the world. [end rant]

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:03PM SkizzNutt509 said

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@elliotrock are you a u.s. citizen? i am and i have respect for people that died for my country and freedom. It makes you sound ignorant if you refuse to respect anybody with a gun. That's a blanket statement and it really doesn't apply to what you are trying to convey, at least i don't think so.....i hope so
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:16PM OrangeGamer said

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@elliotrock Yeah because a ton of bloody and violent revolutions didn't happen anywhere but the US. French Revolution? Never happened. Any other kind of bloody revolution Pre-US in Asian countries? NEVER HAPPENED.

You know, for playing that whole "Hurr hurr Amurikans R DuMb!!!" card you're not really showing any form of intelligence yourself.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:41PM LastDruid said

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@elliotrock I have no respect for you, I served in Army in Iraq not special forces. Most of us joined because what happened on 9/11 like my friend that lost his life over there, you make me sick you need to just sit back and shut up why real men protect your way of life.
3rd ID/ R.I.P Spc Nelson
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:43PM ObiBen8 said

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@elliotrock

Wow, I would normally just ignore a comment like this but I have to reply. What really gets me is your last comment,

"Get a life and do something positive for the world"

If you don't have respect for someone who puts their life on the line so you can live in a country where you have the freedom of speech that allows you to post this kind of talk then maybe you are the one who needs to get a life.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:45PM Teliko said

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@elliotrock Dat angst. You keep up the good fight against The Man, bro.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:46PM ObiBen8 said

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@LastDruid

Thank you for your service and thank you to Spc Nelson for making the ultimate sacrifice for our country. You are the true heroes.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:50PM foofighting86 said

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@elliotrock there is only one thing to say to this: you sir, are a douchebag
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:05PM jsx92 said

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I don't understand why a soldier in the US army wouldn't defend a person's freedom to say what they want about the armed forces. What freedoms do you fight for, LastDruid? The freedom to hold your opinion to yourself?

As far as I'm concerned, those brave soldiers of the past died so elliotrock could look at guns and war as a bad thing and say so without fear of people persecuting him.

If you want to honor their sacrifices, allowing elliot his vocal criticisms is one way to do so; oppressing him is doing exactly the opposite.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:26PM Godslegion said

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@jsx92

In all understandability of respecting the freedoms our soldiers give to us, I still do not think allowing someone to post such comments about them is the decent thing to do for the sake of "honoring" them.

Point is the original poster obviously wanted a rise out of some ordinary good-minded people. He hasn't come back to defend his/herself so I would just let it be. One more asshole I'd rather just mail over to some other country since America and its military is so "bad"
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:29PM Once known as Shadsy said

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Guys, GUYS. There is a legitimate debate to be had about whether or not armed forces de facto deserve respect. But it's not happening because the instant someone says "I don't support The Troops," everyone descends on them like a swarm of angry locust-vulture-bees.

Can we please, please, please ever once have a sane discussion about this? We're doing rational discourse a huge disservice by automatically just saying that everyone in the military is fighting for our freedoms and has earned our admiration.

It is a dangerous job, but there are so many other professions that are more vital to our day-to-day lives that put themselves in harm's way and don't get the same level of deep thanks. If it's okay to criticize police for bad practices or for being jerks, why can't do we do the same thing for members of the military?

Please keep the knee-jerk reactions down, guys! We need to actually talk about this once in a while!
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:34PM Haizeus said

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@elliotrock

Hate the war, not the warrior.

That's the nice way of saying, "Stop being such a c*nt."
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:43PM RockSauron said

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@elliotrock I'm sure everyone will just call me a a commie troll, but I never understood myself why we should automatically have respect for people just because they went to war. Why do we say to support our troops but not the war? Was it not the soldier's decision to fight the war? Why do we automatically give praise to anyone who decides to fight for what the government says is "For our freedom", no matter how accurate that statement is? Why do we hate on the politicians who make us go to war, but have to be supportive of people who voluntary go to war for the abstract goal of "fighting for freedom"?

Notice how he said ANYONE with a gun, too- not just America. I'm sorry if some of you seem to think anyone who says something bad about the military is only attacking America when he clearly says ANYONE.

So yes, I agree we should not have auto respect for anyone who goes to war for an abstract cause that really doesn't mean anything. Then again, I'm just some leftist angsty communist, so I'm sure my opinion doesn't matter. Oh well.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 9:07PM KungFuChaosNinja said

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@elliotrock

I respect the honorable men and women, not the people who send them off to die for their interests. We were warned of the Military Industrial Complex and it's a very real thing. However, that doesn't mean you should dislike or hate the people who are just doing what they have to do.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 9:34PM LastDruid said

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@ObiBen8 thank u sir for the kind words, have a good evening.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2011 2:09AM Kimchi Kommando said

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@Once known as Shadsy

Agreed, that was a very thoughtful comment. I think people become understandably hyperbolic about this issue and elliotrock is a total douche about it.

With that said, it does seem to come off a bit insincere to give blind admiration to any individual in uniform. A lot of people in the military join because it is there only option for a somewhat secure future, not to mention the thousands of dollars of signing bonuses the recruiters dangle infront of many impoverished youths. For many in uniform the military offers universal heathcare, steady pay, and some a career and there is nothing wrong with that, but automaticly assuming that some dude who joined the Air Force or Army did it out of national pride can but that person you are praising in an uncomfortable situation of guilt.

This is coming from a guy who grew up around the military. Trust me our "troops" don't go around thanking each other giving patriotic high fives or even seekout the admiration of civilians.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2011 11:15AM aristokrat said

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While he may have fought for the freedom for people to say whatever they want, it doesn't mean he has to agree with them nor that he can't tell them his opinion in return. "I disagree with your statement but I'll defend unto death your right to say it" and all that.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:58PM joer22784 said

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Who cares if he embellished a little? Shouldn't have lost his job. Others in his position have done a thousand times worse and still keep their jobs

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:06PM FlashJS said

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@joer22784

While I agree, the difference is that he held a high position. Same reason people get mad at celebrities/politicians for cheating/lying/etc. When you're in the public eye, things are different.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:07PM jsx92 said

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What you call an embellishment our country calls a federal offense, and for good reason.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 9:20PM Bobrek said

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@jsx92 While I don't know the ins and outs entirely, what I can glean added to what my logic has filled in makes me think he was basically an office worker for the special forces. So when he said that he was part of the special forces he wasn't technically lying, just omitting that he was the guy who manned the phones, checked the emails, etc; and not the guy who went out making rambo look like a namby pampy.

I could be wrong; but if I'm not, then I don't see how it's fraud. Just clever use of wording.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 10:03PM GreenElf said

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@joer22784

I agree.

Let this be a lesson everybody, only lie about things that would be illegal or immoral for them to check up on, like penis size.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2011 9:54AM WizarDru said

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@Bobrek In general, it's consider a major ethical breach to claim membership in an elite military force when you, in fact, were not. This wasn't a question of sophistry; there are specific membership lists, entrance programs and trials and honors associated with particular military groups. Claiming membership in them is considered an egregious fault amongst current and former military members. So much so, in fact, that the president signed a law in 2005 called the "Stolen Valor Act" to make it a federal crime (said law was deemed far too broad and struck down as unconsitutional).

Many people who lay claims to greater military service often do so for personal gain (in some cases defrauding charities or misleading well-meaning people)...so I can understand why some would be very upset over it.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:58PM BlueRajasmyk said

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What does this have to do with video games?

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:08PM Outkastprince said

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@BlueRajasmyk The studio he worked for worked on a video game called "Deadliest Warrior".

It was difficult finding this information, but thankfully there's this new search engine called "Google", not sure if you've heard of it. Let me link you.
http://www.google.com/
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:14PM Shadowbender said

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@BlueRajasmyk

Looks like it's time to play catch-up.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:36PM Once known as Shadsy said

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@BlueRajasmyk Blue links very good yes.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2011 3:51AM mistwolf said

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@BlueRajasmyk In my opinion it has nothing directly to do with games, but DOES speak to the integrity of the person in question. If I were one of his workers or investors, I would find myself wondering what else he had 'embellished'. It just makes him and the company look bad. If he'd never claimed it, he'd probably still have a job. But he told a lie, got caught, and now will face the repercussion of being a liar.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:34PM arucious said

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I'm still argonian, don't care what you all say?

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:36PM joer22784 said

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Well as long as that's what your tv tells you then it must be true. Oh and i respect people who defend our country, not corporations hired thugs that go occupy other countries to steal oil. So don't bother replying to me w/ your patriotic bs. We are the terrorist over there no matter how you try to justify it
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 9:05PM KungFuChaosNinja said

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I once told a girl that I was a CIA operative while working a warehouse job.

Worked for me.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 9:38PM DasMadHatter said

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I will neither confirm nor deny that I fought with Teddy Roosevelt at San Jaun Hill in 1898.

Sincerely,

Gabe Newell.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 9:45PM stressflyer said

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we used to have a butter bar who came from a special forces unit as support, he was not SF, so we always used to flip his SF patch upsides down. you gotta love velco patches.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 11:09PM CrowDieSlow said

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It's not so much about respecting someone who defends/died defending our country, as it is about flat out DISrespecting them that is offensive.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 11:19PM Nook said

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Pretty sad a grown ass man feels his existence needs to be augmented by lies.

Posted: Oct 12th 2011 10:22AM imsofunknpsycho said

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I thought this was a website about games. But it seems in the comments more like yahoo news. I think everyone needs to calm down and go play some rampage in honor of this guy who is the only person ever to lie on an application.

Posted: Oct 12th 2011 10:25AM MassDragonEffectAge said

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"Falsified my role by lying that I was a 'Green Beret" Fixed that for those that might think he was an honest person.

...Silver wings upon their chest
These are men, America's best
One hundred men will test today
But only three win the Green Beret ...

My B-n-law is a green beret (Vietnam).
60 something and still thinks he is 20. With shrapnel in him.
Way to go Bacsi!

Posted: Oct 12th 2011 4:06PM iceveiled said

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People claim to be members of the special forces community every day. Unfortunately most of them never get called out.

Chances are, if you meet anybody claiming to be a navy SEAL, or Green Beret or the like, there's a 99.9% chance they are lying.


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