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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 10:22AM Copybass Ah jeez zombies said

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Wow guys, immediately thinking Notch has won, just as Notch has.

They won an INTERIM injunction, not an injunction. This means they may use the name Scrolls periodically.

As in; they can use it until the REAL decision is reached, since the case hasn't ACTUALLY gone through.

Posted: Oct 18th 2011 10:57AM slickie said

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@Copybass Ah jeez zombies

Reading only the first two sentences might give you the impression Notch thinks he has won, but if you search carefully you'll find a secret third sentence where he says Bethesda can appeal the decision.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 11:02AM Copybass Ah jeez zombies said

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@slickie

Acting like I didn't read the article, cuuuute. That's never been done before.

However, I read the tweet; and the thing about it is that he says he won an INTERIM injunction. Now, anyone who actually knows anything knows that; unlike what Notch says, about Bethesda appealing, that no ruling has been even MADE yet. An Interim Injunction is used by a court PRIOR to a ruling being made. One doesn't appeal an Interim Injunction, they appeal a ruling.

So read up before you try and act like you're the smart one.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 11:50AM slickie said

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@Copybass Ah jeez zombies

If only Joystiq's comment system would work properly, I could show you the court documents proving that Bethesda can appeal this.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 11:51AM slickie said

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@Copybass Ah jeez zombies

Oh, now it shows up when I take out the link.

Maybe this one will work: http://www.shacknews.com/article/70656/scrolls-wins-interim-injunction-in-elder-scrolls-trademark-case

Click through to the Mojang guy's twitter for an english summary of the official court documents.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 12:01PM Copybass Ah jeez zombies said

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@slickie

Those aren't official court docs; unless it's suddenly permissible to show bias in court documents.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 12:10PM slickie said

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@Copybass Ah jeez zombies

The swedish document is indeed an official court document. It would be illegal for Mojang to make a forgery.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 12:13PM Copybass Ah jeez zombies said

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@slickie

Wowza. The line at the bottom seems pretty darn biased to be legit.

All the same; the documents are saying that the ruling has been made; yet an interim injunction is what's in place. That's not supposed to be used for a ruling, that's supposed to be used as a temporary document to show that the case hasn't been completed, but that the court doesn't want to keep one side from continuing.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 12:18PM slickie said

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@Copybass Ah jeez zombies

I'm not a legal expert, all I know is that you got on Mojang's case for saying Bethesda can appeal to temporary injunction.

Mojang's translation of the official court document says that Bethesda has three weeks to appeal the decision.

If it turns out that Mojang, a swedish company full of fluent speakers of swedish, has somehow made a massive mistranslation and invented a court process that doesn't actually exist - I will be glad to eat my words.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 10:39AM Vcize said

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I thought they were playing Quake for this instead?

Posted: Oct 18th 2011 11:16AM Scuffles said

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Actually Gloom was one of my All time favorite Quake2 Mods

Posted: Oct 18th 2011 12:10PM Bridget said

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I'm confused here. How is what Mojang proposing any different then Langdell's "Edge" shenanigans?

Posted: Oct 18th 2011 7:48PM OrangeGamer said

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@Bridget It's not.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 8:26PM Rubbishy Me said

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@Bridget
Didn't he sue magazines and game titles just because his studio was called "Edge Games"? The trademark functions under different catogories.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 3:13PM Kaahn Stewart said

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Was anyone else offended that Bethesda's argument was that their consumer base is "The General Public" and would confused by a game named Scrolls when 1) we're a far more specialized and intelligent group than they give us credit for (which Mojang pointed out), and 2) Their games are better known as Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim?

Posted: Oct 18th 2011 4:20PM Copybass Ah jeez zombies said

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@Kaahn Stewart

In law, specifically laws like this, where you would have someone discerning between two games, you are SUPPOSED to go by a clause called "The Rushed Idiot" that states that occasionally people are stupid; and the assumption you are often in a rush and stupid to the topic at hand. If I told my grandfather to get me "The new Elder Scrolls" game, he could possibly pick me up Scrolls instead, thinking it was what I was looking for.

What offends ME is that the court didn't see it this way, as they're supposed to.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 7:50PM OrangeGamer said

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@Copybass Ah jeez zombies This, and there's also trademark dilution to "The Elder Scrolls". People trademarking basic nouns are kind of douchebags for doing so. Mojang never wanted to use a subtitle, either because they couldn't be assed to create one, or because they mislead the public. It was a truly douchey move in my opinion. Shoulda subtitled it, or poured some creativity into it.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 4:47PM Weejo said

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How about Rouge Warrior? It's been too long since we've had a decent makeover game. If anyone can do that well, it's Notch & Co.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 1:54AM YanDaMan said

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Thank God. If Bethesda won I would've lost all hope in the world's law system.

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