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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:24PM Asok said

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If Saints Row The Third is like having doughnuts all day, then call me a lardass. I can't wait for this shit.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:56PM GuitarHero666 said

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@Asok This. Hell, I think the dream diet of a 6 year old would be donuts and sweeties for breakfast, lunch and supper.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 9:43PM Haizeus said

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@Asok

Preparing for downvotes, but I absolutely do not see the appeal of this game. I also think GTA4 is the best game in that respective series and wish the tropes that R* abandoned would stay in the past.


ZIP ZOP ZOOPITY BOP
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 10:12PM Asok said

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@Haizeus

No need for downvotes, each game deserves its respective fans.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 10:20PM Colin said

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@rubycassidyy

Don't worry, there will always be downvotes for you, spambot.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:08PM freelancer91 said

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@Haizeus I played through Saints Row 2 and absolutely loved it. I went in expecting an over the top experience, but was also met with developed characters with motivations. I didn't expect a game with depth, but SR2 had some.

Then, for reference, I picked up a copy of GTA4 on Steam. Immediately I could see the contrast. In GTA4, you play one character: The character that the developers want you to play. This isn't necessarily a bad thing in most games, but in a Sandbox crime game, being able to decide what kind of villain you will be is always a plus. Then there were the people that the game constantly nagged you to take care of. I didn't appreciate having to drive my fat cousin to a pub to play darts. To me, a sandbox crime game should be about the crime and mayhem. I would have been kinder to the game if my cousin had called me up asking if I wanted to go with him while he held up a jewelry store wearing a floral print dress. And if I had said no, I would like it if the game didn't penalize me because I wanted to do something else.

Another area where I saw a big difference was with the vehicles. It's true that the cars in GTA4 handle realistically, but is that a good thing? I don't think so. I like how SR2's cars felt much more nimble. I understand that in SR: TT, the further improved the handling by making drifting much more fluid and by improving the damage models for the vehicles. How you get around in a sandbox crime game is very important. Saints Row 2 understood this and made it fun.

I suppose if you want a serious realistic story, full of grittiness and unappealing people, GTA4 has you covered. But I want a game that gives you a city filled with innocent blood-filled citizens that I can grief in the way I choose. Good sandbox crime games reward dicking around and there is no game on the market that lets you do this quite the way that Saints Row does.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 12:37AM A Sandwich said

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@Haizeus

Eh, you're not alone. I don't see the appeal of dumb fun when there's so, so much smart fun to be had.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 2:28AM Haizeus said

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@A Sandwich

Brofists. They can keep their poo cannons. A couple of friends and I were rehashing the ending of GTA4 just today and I sank into reminiscence.

*SPOILERS*

Kate murdered, Pegorino dead at my feet, and it starts to rain at the base of the Statue of Happiness. Getting that call from Packie almost broke my freakin' heart as I, without really considering what I was doing, strolled around deep in thought. I mean, how many games can you count that left you in melancholic reverie?

And I think, y'know, I'd almost be more sad if Roman died. Yeah, he annoyed me, but he annoyed Niko too. That was the point. But I'll be damned if I wasn't screaming along with him when he Roman was kidnapped.

I played a lot of SR2. It was like playing the Bernie missions in GTA4: borderline disgusting. Different strokes I guess, but I'm glad R* grew up, grew a pair, and started making games that not only appeal to me, but progress the medium.

That whole thing reads rather pompous, but whatever.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 3:40AM Design by Adrian said

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@rubycassidyy

No you didn't.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 5:16AM Kenoji said

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@Asok -- Same here. I just want to bodyslam random pedestrians.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 7:48AM Decanus said

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@Haizeus i agree that the story telling in GTA4 is better than SR2 but i dont see why i cant have both have the rockstars and other story tellers games to inspire me and games that are just goofing around when i want a few beers with the lads, i think there is room for both. to not use the already stretched food analogy can i not go to the opera and then come home to watch some south park.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 10:12AM StarcasM said

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@Haizeus "borderline disgusting"
Exactly! But you can't tell them that.. Noooooo... This is a sandbox game for the ignorant.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 10:28AM Unit076 said

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@Decanus This, so much.
Both are awesome in their respective ways (except the cheats, having to go through pause menu / open a damn phone is a hassle)
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 12:19PM Miranda Lawson said

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@Asok That made me think of poop, is that wrong?
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 6:32PM Haizeus said

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@Decanus

Mhmm, except South Park, at its best, is a brilliant social satire. Not a very apt comparison when Saints Row excels at nothing but irreverence.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2011 11:06PM Asok said

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Man, why'd my comment gotta turn into a GTAIV vs SR argument? Can't we all just get along? They're both video games! They're both fun! Let's just settle down and have some doughnuts.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:24PM drhitts said

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"About ten minutes in, you'll shoot the cockpit window of a Boeing 747 in freefall, jump inside and fall through the plane only to pop out the other side and back into freefall. It's pure nonsense"

Wow, I really want to play this now.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:32PM FlashJS said

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@drhitts

Agreed!!! It's like a check-your-brains-at-the-door, Michael Bay style Hollywood action movie.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:47PM JohnDM said

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@drhitts There's a video of that exact scene played out. I guess it would be planted in somewhat spoilery territory. But after watching it go down it only made me want the game more. This game is dumb to the nth degree, and I can't wait.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:26PM Masync9 said

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If all you ever ate was doughnuts then yes its a valid point. aka there are plenty of games going around for diet variety so getting a great doughnut game like this is definitely going to be a treat.

Avoid performing a Marlon Brando with doughnuts and everyone should be living just fine. : )

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:27PM peternography said

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you know a dildo fight can be quite a cathartic experience.

I'm so getting this game even though I'll play it in April 2012 once i get half way through Skyrim.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 7:44PM BearDown82 said

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@peternography: I'm 90% sure that Mike never expected to write the phrase 'dildo fights' in his career, but there you have it. I can't wait for this game.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:32PM FinderKeeper said

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Of course you don't have doughnuts all day, every day. But after say, three or four days of nothing but steak tartare (MW3, BF3), meat-lover's pizza (Gears of War 3), or delicate sushi (Final Fantasy XIII), it's good to have the doughnuts close at hand for a change of pace.

It seems that Volition is aiming for compete mayhem and utter anarchy, and from what I've read so far from the gaming press, it appears they've hit a home run in that respect.

Oh, and to take the analogy further, don't forget that there are a VARIETY of doughnuts to choose from in this game. Some of them are Krispy Kremes, some of them are jelly-filled, some of them are crullers, some of them are powdered sugar, some of them are apple fritters...

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:57PM Dick Socrates said

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@FinderKeeper Calling MW3 and BF3 steak tartare is funny. Their roughly the same level as Saint's Row 3, only they act pompous.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 7:32PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said

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@Dick Socrates So it's like eating a donut with your pinky finger stuck out?
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 9:08PM SmashZilla said

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@FinderKeeper

I see MW3 as more of a Big Mac.

Like hell if you ever see me eating one...

Whats that? The released the Monopoly Board contest? Ok...maybe 1 or 8.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 9:32PM Dooliss said

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@FinderKeeper

Gears 3 is more meat-lovers pizza injected with HGH, anabolic steroids, and a touch of sentimentality.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:32PM Vcize said

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Is there still co-op through the full campaign mode like there was in SR2 or is it only whored mode now?

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:39PM WoolyBully said

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Gimme.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:44PM mattfish9 said

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Every time I read about this game or see it in action, I want the release date to come sooner. This looks like a lot of fun and a good break from a lot of the other games that have and will release this season.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:44PM (Unverified) said

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"Which brings us to Saints Row: The Third."

So clever.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 6:53PM Jeremy White said

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Can't wait. Saint's Row 2 was one of my favorite games of this generation.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 7:08PM freelancer91 said

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Diets are for pussies. Give me my Saints Row: The Third!

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 7:25PM Mach2 said

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This whole doughnut metaphor implies that a game needs to have a complex plot and deep characters to be "good," while the sweet, fattening pastries of the gaming world should be taken in small doses.

Honestly, games are just that, GAMES, and not many games did "who-gives-a-crap about artsy shit" fun better than Saints Row 2 did. Don't get me wrong, I love games like Amnesia with its perfect atmosphere or Mass Effect with its dialogue-heavy relationship system, but I could not be more psyched for a game than I am for Saints Row the Third.

Posted: Oct 20th 2011 10:26AM Red O Magnus said

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@Mach2 I think there is something artsy about this game, though (aside from the high contrast and colorful art style). Right now we live in a time where realism defines what's good and what's bad. CoD, BF, Forza, Batman, AC, And many more try to plant a player firmly in the game world by trying to make the world look as "realistic" as possible. The Third shirks that. It declares that realism is over-rated, and it makes that statement throughout it's gameplay, graphics, story, etc. I can respect that.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2011 12:57PM DaDiddles said

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@Mach2

I consider style consistency more important than the type of style the game is going for. Shadow of Colossus looks artistic and gorgeous, and has many nifty camera tricks that give it a truly cinematic feel. Dead Rising is a B-rate interactive zombie flick that takes itself far too seriously (which you can mock by wearing ridiculous costumes). Viewtiful Joe is a super-hero action flick where your powers actually alter the "movie" world (slow-mo, "mach speed", zoom, etc).

From the offset, the games just listed seem vastly different. But each game crafts a unique style to call its own and stays consistent with that style throughout, making the game incredibly enjoyable.

Saying this game is nothing but doughnuts is a good thing, because that means it has created its own world that is logically consistent within it's own context.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 7:32PM StrangeDNA said

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Artistry, classy or trashy, come in different flavors. Some are classic and some are shock, but they entertain. Let other games take up the mantle of aspiring to be as "serious" as a Van Gogh or Rembrandt; there's plenty of room for good, old-fashioned fun.

I mean, how else do you explain Animal House and Weird Science? lol

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 7:33PM Gillium said

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Great, now I really want a doughnut.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 10:57PM maveric101 said

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@Gillium

i got a pumpkin donut from Dunkin' Donuts earlier. i highly recommend them.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 8:10PM (Unverified) said

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I have never played one of these - were the first two this over the top and silly? I somehow had the impression they weren't, but this sounds more and more fun the more I hear about it.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 8:30PM LaughingTarget said

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They are over the top, but as the series progresses, it just gets sillier, which is good.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 8:13PM DokiDokiBawanga said

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oh lol in November i will go from one extreme to the other every day! One day will be playing serious Skyrim, and other day will be doing crazy stuff in SR3. What an awesome November awaits me!

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 8:31PM (Unverified) said

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When real gang-warfare becomes this intense, we are so screwed.

I'm siding with the guy who has more tanks.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 8:41PM Kamalot said

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So I met a 250+ lb guy the other day, and we start talking about games. Saints Row the Third is all he could keep talking about.

Now I know.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 8:45PM StarcasM said

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So... A game tailored for Racist, Homophobic, Chauvinistic, Ignorant, Caucasian teens...

Good Job, THQ for Desensitizing the youth even more, just to fill your coffers...

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 9:35PM Labreya said

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@StarcasM

If Saints Row were a joke, you'd have demonstrated, with flying colours, that you didn't get the punchline.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 9:51PM StarcasM said

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@Labreya But it's not a joke.. Unless you mean a "joke" of a real game.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 10:33PM (Unverified) said

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@StarcasM
Welcome to the real world. Care to join us?
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 10:43PM freaparn said

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@StarcasM

Well, you have fun sulking in the corner, and the rest of the world will have to settle for playing the game. That'll show 'em.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:07PM Labreya said

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@StarcasM

Apparently you didn't get my earlier comment either.

No, it's not a joke. It's a series of games where the whole point is to take all the things people deem "immature" and "wrong" with society and gameing culture today, and make a fun filled game of it in the hopes that people will turn up in droves yelling "Won't somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!! This filth has no merit!!".

A major point of the game is to get people with your attitude all hot and bothered so the rest of us can laugh at you. The fact that you responded the way you did has just validated the existance of such a game all the more. If people like you could just go "Well, I don't like it so i'll just not buy it and keep it out of my home" and keep a sensible attitude, there'd be no point and games in this veign would stop getting made. Most of the fun would be gone.
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