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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:33PM xiLeShadow said

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They should push out a Call of Duty Free 2 Play.

This shows that people will pay for digital add-ons and etc. Might as well make your gamer base bigger than it is now. (Wow Imagine Call of Duty being even bigger).

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:36PM Tommy758 said

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@xiLeShadow Aren't they doing that for the China market?
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:31PM PR0F3TA said

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@xiLeShadow

never thought of that, and it seems like a obvious move. like a CODlite with microtransactions. Altho i can see people already acting like a bunch of 12 year olds over the idea. even though many FPS have done it. Including BF.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:52PM CaramelZappa said

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@xiLeShadow

The fact that they sell more copies on release day than any other game kind of makes it silly to go free to play. Sure, they'll make a ton on map packs, but the people are clearly okay with paying a premium for the game, and another premium for the map packs. Why would Activision give for free what so many people are willing to pay for?
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:39PM BlazeKing said

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I'm glad to have not supported $15 map packs. The last map pack I bought was for COD4 and it was nowhere near $15 when I purchased it. A pack of 4 maps should cost no more than $10 IMO.

The combined total of the map packs for Black Ops equals the price of a brand new PS3 game. Makes my decision easy; wait until the Bl-Ops map pack sale. Or, just buy another game for that price.

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:00PM Fearmonkey said

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@BlazeKing - Amen to that, I refuse to spend $15 on a map pack, too bad others are not doing the same.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:04PM xiLeShadow said

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@BlazeKing

I miss those days.

The Call of Duty 4 Map Pack was Free for PC Gamers. In addition, all of the maps packs for World at War were also Free for PC Gamers.

After the poop-fest of Modern Warfare 2, which stood no where as good as COD4 PC, Activision decide to milk the PC market as well. This was also the time when Call of Duty started to require Steam.

I guess Steam made it easier to for Activision to release Paid DLC instead of the traditional Update + Free DLC Combo.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:17PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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@BlazeKing

a lot of people have been thinking the same way apparently. they have sold over 25 million copies of the game itself. but only 20 million combined of like 3 or 4 map packs? thats a lot of people not giving in...but not enough to make them drop the price back down sadly
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:47PM (Unverified) said

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@Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi I prefere what halo/cod does than bf/gta where its seperate from the main mp.I hated getting booted from games cause of map packs or having a small amount of ppl playing in an expansion such as vietnam.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:53PM CaramelZappa said

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@BlazeKing

I never pick up map packs. They are never worth it to me. Such a small amount of content for too much money.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 6:55PM DeadRabbits said

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@Fearmonkey

I share your solidarity. Of course I've always been of the mind that people that buy these map packs at these prices, don't really have a great handle on cost vs. value mechanics.

I'm sure some would say "It's as valuable as the buyer perceives it to be" but that just doesn't fly. There was this small window when XBLA, PSN, and DLC content might have been significantly cheaper (and in my opinion) correctly priced, but during that window publishers experimented with charging more than normal and found that enough people bought it to make it worth their while.

It's not a good thing when just a few people hold all the keys. There isn't any competition at that point, and a commerce system without competition sucks for the consumer.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 9:16PM NPTran23 said

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@CaramelZappa

Agreed, if you bought Black Ops 60.00 and later paid for every map pack it would be another 60.00 and you would've paid 120.00 to have the complete game. The only way I would spend that much is for games like GTA IV or Fallout 3 which included expansions not just maps. That's why I love TF2, they add new maps all the time and I don't have to pay a dime.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:40PM copa said

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I'm not a reflexive CoD hater. I loved the hell out of MW2, and I'm not one of the people who suddenly pretended that I hated it 6 months after release because it became the cool thing to do.

But Blacks Ops was not that great a game. It bugs me that it breaks all sales records, not that it should, really.

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:47PM McPo said

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@copa
I thought Black Ops was better.

I was going to buy BO but with the wager matches and splitscreen and cheap price (Half price) i decided to grab it.

Now i havnt played anything other than split-screen co-op and even then ive played about 20 games of it, BC2 had more of my attention
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:00PM liquidsoap89 said

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@copa

I was willing to give Black Ops the benefit of the doubt when it came out. MW2 was incredibly dumb, but it was still fun, and I had the same hopes for BlOps. But having to wait weeks for the biggest game of the year to get enough patches to allow the game to be playable is unacceptable. I think the worst thing that I see is how everybody has forgotten about that little "incident"... I think most PC players here would remember about the "memory leak" in BlOps causing it to be nearly unplayable (unless you don't mind your game freezing for a split second every few seconds). But everybody has no problem blasting BF3 for having server issues. At least for EA this was the biggest game they've ever released, and maybe (obviously) they didn't realize how much resources were needed to keep the game running smoothly. BlOps is different. Activision POURED money in to that game, and they KNEW it was going to be huge, and yet they somehow managed to allow a massive error like that to be released to the public (to my knowledge the PC wasn't the only platform effected either). For me BlOps is where Activision turned off the quality valve, and turned all of their attention to profits.
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Posted: Nov 10th 2011 4:10AM CaramelZappa said

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@copa
I'm not a huge CoD fan, but I though Black Ops brought a lot of fun little things. Sticks and Stones, as well as Gun Games (lifted from counter strike, but still plenty fun) to me did a lot to spice up a franchise that is more or less the same every year. Maybe it's not the best game in the franchise, but the quirks like RC cars made it stand out quite a lot.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:44PM Vampettrelli said

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what would be awesome is a standalone zombie survivor from trey-arch (still based on the current zombies with same cast), even if it was downloadable "Episodes"

Love zombies

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:57PM Vampettrelli said

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@Vampettrelli
The CODs got ridiculous after W@W in my opinion, But i give credit to treyarch for Black Ops, they did "try" to improve, e.g removing the Rollerblade knife that plagued MW2,

My top COD games -
COD4
W@W
Blops
MW2
Also bare in mind people, were on our EIGHTH (8TH!!) COD, COD8, Talk about milking it? My great grand kids will be on MW12 at this rate, They move faster than Apple
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:57PM Vampettrelli said

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@Vampettrelli
That last comment was for "That One Guy" btw, i dont know why it replied to me
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:45PM AntZero said

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Yep, Activision making annual bank thanks to the millions of people who contribute to pay $60 a pop for the same game just different setting. I honestly don't get it, after MW2, I didn't see anything different. You know why I can say this? Because there has been so many people I hear and read across the internet how they can't wait for the next CoD next year even though the CoD they are playing JUST came out. It's ridiculous, but that's just my opinion

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:37PM PR0F3TA said

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@AntZero

wow your opinion is so new and original... say, would you happen to point me to a FPS thats tehz pwn3.


you know u wanna say it....
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:47PM Zoot Suit Jedi Grammar Hammer En said

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So many dollars. Impressive.

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 2:49PM Once known as Shadsy said

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CoD is basically the only franchise that could've charged $5 for these map packs and still made $100 million. It's sad that they're still going with the higher price.

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:03PM ChaseHammerJ said

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um....
so earlier your article said they sold 15million copies of the game but they told 20million map packs....that makes perfect sense. so you are saying 5 million copies were resales then?

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:04PM ChaseHammerJ said

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@ChaseHammerJ

sorry didnt see where it was sum of all 4 packs not 20 million of each pack.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:12PM Ellimem said

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@ChaseHammerJ

First off, that was 15 million copies in the US. Second off, there are four map packs, meaning there is a potential audience of 60 million copies in the US alone.

......Got it?
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:17PM ChaseHammerJ said

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@Ellimem

thanks for reiterating my second comment.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:10PM Vidikron said

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@ChaseHammerJ

Additionally, the 15 million figure was for the US market alone. If you click the "18 million" link in the article above you'll see that the game has actually sold over 23 million worldwide.

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:21PM Oddgirl said

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@That One Guy I had a lot of fun with the multiplayer in World at War. It's the last Call of Duty I bought and really played, but the single player I touched for but a second before rage quitting.

Seriously, lots of fun. I'd still play it today if it weren't for everyone I knew that I played it with moving on to other Call of Duty games, which I just don't enjoy.

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:29PM RandomfragLOL said

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keep making DLC for this game please!!! IW/Sledge dropped the balls on this game for ONLINE play sadly. TreyArch is only that did it right for online.

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:49PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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@RandomfragLOL

why do that when they can get you to buy a whole new game?
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:30PM foxhound said

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...Can zombies jump a shark?

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:39PM PR0F3TA said

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@foxhound

it has... a long time ago
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:46PM Oddgirl said

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Perhaps if it were a zombie shark from the first RE.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 3:32PM cjrosa6 said

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And with that, the casual fan has changed the landscape forever...again.

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 4:02PM eat it said

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@cjrosa6

I think you're confused.

casual FPS players have not changed anything but casual shooters.

there are still the same amount of "core" games out there. Don't even try to tell me otherwise, Right now I'm playing through shadows of the damned, el shaddai, ico, and amnesia. if casual gamers have changed the landscape of gaming I just don't see it. they may have added to it but they certainly haven't changed what was already there.

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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 8:55PM Sage009 said

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@eat it None of which are FPS games (except amnesia, but minus the S)

He's talking about the competitive shooter scene like counterstrike, quake, halo and that stuff.
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Posted: Nov 9th 2011 4:48PM Undulation said

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Is that what happens when you release half a game and charge for the rest?

Posted: Nov 9th 2011 7:17PM Starcade said

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I only wish they would have released more maps...

Posted: Nov 10th 2011 9:36AM darcwolf said

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So Yesterday joystiq reported black ops sold about 15 million copies but now today they sold 20 mil map packs, am I the only one confused here?

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/08/ubisoft-reveals-15m-copies-sold-of-black-ops-thats-right/

Posted: Nov 10th 2011 3:56PM Fuglyjerm said

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Wow the economy is worse than I thought I guess. Really? 120 dollars for as many hours that I put into the game is a steal. I would spend a hell of a lot more if I was doing something else for the same amount of time.

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