EA not releasing Syndicate in Australia, notes 'arcane censorship'
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Syndicate will not launch in Australia next year and EA will not alter the original game or seek an appeal. The publisher informed Joystiq this afternoon that it finds the Australian government's policy to deny adults the right to play Syndicate "regrettable."
"The game will not be available in Australia despite its enthusiastic response from fans. We were encouraged by the government's recent agreement to adopt an 18+ age rating for games. However, delays continue to force an arcane censorship on games – cuts that would never be imposed on books or movies," EA Corporate Communications' Tiffany Steckler wrote Joystiq in a statement. "We urge policy makers to take swift action to implement an updated policy that reflects today's market and gives its millions of adult consumers the right to make their own content choices."
Syndicate was recently refused classification in Australia, due to it being "unsuitable for a minor to see or play." Australian classification standards reject classification for video games only deemed suitable for citizens over the age of 15.
"The game will not be available in Australia despite its enthusiastic response from fans. We were encouraged by the government's recent agreement to adopt an 18+ age rating for games. However, delays continue to force an arcane censorship on games – cuts that would never be imposed on books or movies," EA Corporate Communications' Tiffany Steckler wrote Joystiq in a statement. "We urge policy makers to take swift action to implement an updated policy that reflects today's market and gives its millions of adult consumers the right to make their own content choices."
Syndicate was recently refused classification in Australia, due to it being "unsuitable for a minor to see or play." Australian classification standards reject classification for video games only deemed suitable for citizens over the age of 15.
Reader Comments (69)
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:18PM Rob Liv said
Arcane Censorship?
MOTHER OF GOD
IF SOPA GET THEIR HANDS ON THIS MAGIC WE'RE ALL DOOMED!
MOTHER OF GOD
IF SOPA GET THEIR HANDS ON THIS MAGIC WE'RE ALL DOOMED!
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:30PM Stevetrop Man of Mystery said
@Rob Liv
I was just thinking about that. For a business who supports SOPA they have not yet seen the word "Arcane Censorship" come into play yet.
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I was just thinking about that. For a business who supports SOPA they have not yet seen the word "Arcane Censorship" come into play yet.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:43PM Hunter141072 said
@Rob Liv
And for the first time EVER i totally agree with EA.... I never thought that day would come... guess the end of the world really is coming........
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And for the first time EVER i totally agree with EA.... I never thought that day would come... guess the end of the world really is coming........
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:53PM Fullmetal Salchemist said
@Rob Liv
Yeah, I was thinking something similar. I'm sure they mean "archaic."
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Yeah, I was thinking something similar. I'm sure they mean "archaic."
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:56PM HissingNewt said
@Stevetrop Man of Mystery SOPA is different from my understanding. As far as I know, it's not based on whether the content is morally objectionable, just whether or not it's illegal.
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Posted: Dec 20th 2011 3:06PM The Great Cornholio said
@Rob Liv
Arcane:
Understood by few; mysterious or secret.
http://www.google.com/search?q=arcane+definition&hl=en&prmd=imvns&nomo=1&biw=320&bih=480
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Arcane:
Understood by few; mysterious or secret.
http://www.google.com/search?q=arcane+definition&hl=en&prmd=imvns&nomo=1&biw=320&bih=480
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 3:34PM commonperson said
@Fullmetal Salchemist The may in fact mean arcane in the sense it's an ever changing never consistent set of rules that are akin to magic (games that pass are just as explicit if not worse in Australia and pass for no real reason that can be discerned or understood while games like Syndicate do not.)
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Posted: Dec 20th 2011 3:37PM Fullmetal Salchemist said
@The Great Cornholio
Except it's none of those things. Violent games get banned. Nothing mysterious, secret, or difficult to understand about that.
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Except it's none of those things. Violent games get banned. Nothing mysterious, secret, or difficult to understand about that.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 5:27PM The Great Cornholio said
@Fullmetal Salchemist
He's got his definition confused. Arcane =/= magical, no matter what some fantasy works would lead you to believe.
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He's got his definition confused. Arcane =/= magical, no matter what some fantasy works would lead you to believe.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 6:21PM commonperson said
@Fullmetal Salchemist that's the problem, they are inconsistent in their application of "Violent" so you can't simply say that. For example, to get Fallout 3 released they had no issue with the fact you could make a person's head explode but the core issue was the name on the drugs (hence the carte blance change to Stims from Morphine.) As for "magic" arcane is "known or understood by very few; mysterious; secret; obscure; esoteric: She knew a lot about Sanskrit grammar and other arcane matters." Esoteric is defined as "(of a philosophical doctrine or the like) intended to be revealed only to the initiates of a group: the esoteric doctrines of Pythagoras." Magic is explained as "producing results through mysterious influences or unexplained powers" so often "arcane" ties back and is used in reference to magic (hence the arcana of the tarot deck, etc.)
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Posted: Dec 20th 2011 6:46PM HissingNewt said
@mietha Please direct me to the sections of the bill that allow the government to censor whatever they want to then. Until then, I'll be reading SOPA/playing Battlefield 3.
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Posted: Dec 20th 2011 10:00PM darkinchworm said
@The Great Cornholio
Let's... not take this so seriously, OK? I'm sure you have played some game where some mage had some, quote, "arcane magic," unquote, and that is what the OP was referring to. Furthermore, that magic could in theory be difficult to understand, hence why not every character in most fantasy universes is spamming level 99 spells from the get-go.
I hope I've done a worthwhile job of making my case.
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Let's... not take this so seriously, OK? I'm sure you have played some game where some mage had some, quote, "arcane magic," unquote, and that is what the OP was referring to. Furthermore, that magic could in theory be difficult to understand, hence why not every character in most fantasy universes is spamming level 99 spells from the get-go.
I hope I've done a worthwhile job of making my case.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 10:37PM The Great Cornholio said
@darkinchworm
I wasn't. I was just correcting a misconception.
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I wasn't. I was just correcting a misconception.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 10:46PM Fullmetal Salchemist said
@commonperson
Yeah, but that inconsistency implies they judge games arbitrarily. If their censorship was "arcane," they'd have some strict guideline they follow and never show anyone else. They just seem to judge games on a whim.
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Yeah, but that inconsistency implies they judge games arbitrarily. If their censorship was "arcane," they'd have some strict guideline they follow and never show anyone else. They just seem to judge games on a whim.
Posted: Dec 21st 2011 9:37AM darkinchworm said
@The Great Cornholio
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume there was no misconception, only humor.
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I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume there was no misconception, only humor.
Posted: Dec 21st 2011 11:04AM Mistermordancy said
@Rob Liv Yes but America (unlike Australia) likes making money, so it won't impact games. This and the fact that now Videogames have a degree of legitimacy following the supreme court ruling.
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Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:26PM Knight Marquise said
Frankly, I have to agree with EA's stance on this.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:27PM Giovanni117 said
That's unfortunate, it looks like at the very least like an interesting game.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:32PM DokiDokiBawanga said
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Posted: Dec 20th 2011 4:22PM GuitarHero666 said
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:33PM eat it said
just order from new zealand
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 3:07PM Shadowbender said
@eat it
Yeah man. New Zealand's cool as a cucumber, they don't care about a single thing. And they're doing just fine.
(Plus, they got Peter Jackson and LOTR. They've already won.)
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Yeah man. New Zealand's cool as a cucumber, they don't care about a single thing. And they're doing just fine.
(Plus, they got Peter Jackson and LOTR. They've already won.)
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 9:57PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
@eat it
Its significantly cheaper to order from the UK. NZ pays even more for games then Aus.
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Its significantly cheaper to order from the UK. NZ pays even more for games then Aus.
Posted: Dec 21st 2011 10:59AM (Unverified) said
@eat it
Nope, I was over there the year before and my UK games worked just fine on my girlfriends Xbox. When she was here last year her games worked just fine on mine and she has been ordering all her games from CDWOW for quite a while now which is all UK stock as far as I know. The latest of which was Skyrim, she paid about $30 less for it as well.
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Nope, I was over there the year before and my UK games worked just fine on my girlfriends Xbox. When she was here last year her games worked just fine on mine and she has been ordering all her games from CDWOW for quite a while now which is all UK stock as far as I know. The latest of which was Skyrim, she paid about $30 less for it as well.
Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 4:01AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
@eat it
No they aren't. Europe, Aus and NZ all use PAL.
Hence the reason why I buy my games from the UK and stated that its cheaper to buy them from there.
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No they aren't. Europe, Aus and NZ all use PAL.
Hence the reason why I buy my games from the UK and stated that its cheaper to buy them from there.
Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 9:31AM eat it said
@This Little Man Says His Name Is
PAL and NTSC are not regions codes. They are ways of color correcting tints and hues.
Regions are numbered. the north america is 1, europe is 2, australia is 4...
I was unaware that xboxes could play games across different regions. I stuck with PS3 when I was living there because I knew that it was region free.
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PAL and NTSC are not regions codes. They are ways of color correcting tints and hues.
Regions are numbered. the north america is 1, europe is 2, australia is 4...
I was unaware that xboxes could play games across different regions. I stuck with PS3 when I was living there because I knew that it was region free.
Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 9:50AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
@eat it
Region on a console is PAL or NTSC U/J. They don't use the same region encoding as dvds and blu-rays.
Atleast for the past two gens whether a game would play on your console was based on if it was PAL or NTSC, not what country it was made for.
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Region on a console is PAL or NTSC U/J. They don't use the same region encoding as dvds and blu-rays.
Atleast for the past two gens whether a game would play on your console was based on if it was PAL or NTSC, not what country it was made for.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:34PM Author X said
@TheOnlyNameAvailable
I see what you did there. Mate.
I see what you did there. Mate.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:43PM tendoboy1984 said
I agree 100% with EA on this. I was particularly baffled by these quotes:
"However, delays continue to force an arcane censorship on games – cuts that would never be imposed on books or movies."
" Australian classification standards reject classification for video games only deemed suitable for citizens over the age of 15."
Australia really thinks games should only be suitable for people under 15? Don't they know plenty of mature adults enjoy video games too? Or does the Australian government all live under a rock? Would they ban R-rated movies because they aren't suitable for "minors"?
Adults can have their cake and eat it too, but I guess Australia's government thinks the cake is a lie. (That was a terrible analogy, I apologize)
"However, delays continue to force an arcane censorship on games – cuts that would never be imposed on books or movies."
" Australian classification standards reject classification for video games only deemed suitable for citizens over the age of 15."
Australia really thinks games should only be suitable for people under 15? Don't they know plenty of mature adults enjoy video games too? Or does the Australian government all live under a rock? Would they ban R-rated movies because they aren't suitable for "minors"?
Adults can have their cake and eat it too, but I guess Australia's government thinks the cake is a lie. (That was a terrible analogy, I apologize)
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:44PM tendoboy1984 said
@tendoboy1984
It's called creative freedom, and giving consumers a choice in what they want to buy. This sort of censorship would never fly in America. And I thought Australia was a democracy.
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It's called creative freedom, and giving consumers a choice in what they want to buy. This sort of censorship would never fly in America. And I thought Australia was a democracy.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 3:15PM Shadowbender said
@tendoboy1984
You know someday, we'll enter into the strange realm of the middle-aged, 50-60's area of our lives, some of our generation will take over the politics and governing, and we'll all act like understanding, listening, open-minded people, instead of preying on the age-old ideas of videogames being space-consuming trash that kids toy around with mindlessly, ignoring the concept that games could be, JUST MAYBE, possibly, be art.
But that's just silly, right? Heap of nonsense, nothing more.
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You know someday, we'll enter into the strange realm of the middle-aged, 50-60's area of our lives, some of our generation will take over the politics and governing, and we'll all act like understanding, listening, open-minded people, instead of preying on the age-old ideas of videogames being space-consuming trash that kids toy around with mindlessly, ignoring the concept that games could be, JUST MAYBE, possibly, be art.
But that's just silly, right? Heap of nonsense, nothing more.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 3:22PM SkizzNutt509 said
@tendoboy1984 Hate to break it to you, but america is censored. CNN, FOX, you pretty much have to hunt to find news that isn't written in a skewed way to make us americans look good. Spin spin spin is what they do until it looks like the iraqi citizens were grateful to have us occupying their country. Tell me, would our country and its citizens like it if china came in to "help" us? just use google!
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Posted: Dec 20th 2011 6:20PM (Unverified) said
@Hank Hill Sex? Hell, that's old news, their latest bit exposes an even more insidious and dire issue: a liberal environmentalist agenda!
You can't even make this stuff up, it's amazing.
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You can't even make this stuff up, it's amazing.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 6:40PM FreakSheet said
@tendoboy1984
Technically since Australia is opposite to me (almost), they DO live under a rock. (a very large one at that)
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Technically since Australia is opposite to me (almost), they DO live under a rock. (a very large one at that)
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:44PM foxhound said
Don't worry Aussie Joystiq readers, I'm sure someone is already taking on a drop-shipped order to in-turn, sell you copies of this game at a slightly marked up price when this releases stateside.
And in return, send us didgeridoos & your money. Keep your women.
And in return, send us didgeridoos & your money. Keep your women.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 3:05PM Shadowbender said
@foxhound
Aussie women are hypnotic creatures. Admit it.
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Aussie women are hypnotic creatures. Admit it.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 4:15PM Shadowbender said
@foxhound
Oh, I see now. Can't live without either women or games, after all.
Poor Aussies...
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Oh, I see now. Can't live without either women or games, after all.
Poor Aussies...
Posted: Dec 21st 2011 11:45AM foxhound said
@Tezz
whoa, whoa -- I'm not slamming on Aussie Women, LoL! XD
They're definitely an attractive and usually "better-exercised" lot. I was just poking fun at the classification system taking certain videogames away from Australian adults, despite the rating. I jokingly offered a trade of the didgeridoos and money for an export of those banned titles, haha.
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whoa, whoa -- I'm not slamming on Aussie Women, LoL! XD
They're definitely an attractive and usually "better-exercised" lot. I was just poking fun at the classification system taking certain videogames away from Australian adults, despite the rating. I jokingly offered a trade of the didgeridoos and money for an export of those banned titles, haha.
Posted: Dec 20th 2011 2:50PM GeraltRivia said
Has a point about if it was a book or movie stuff wouldn't get cut. That's just sad and stupid.







