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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:20PM TrogdorForHire said

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Nine 'Ville games since 2009...

..versus seven console Mario Kart games since 1992.

Yep, legitimate criticism right there.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 8:35PM kejigoto said

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@TrogdorForHire

Not only that but the series has evolved quite abit over the years and Nintendo has nearly perfected the formula now.

The simple fact that each release for Mario Kart grows the franchise further while Zygna continues to see their numbers slip is proof of who delivers a quality product and who doesn't.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 8:38PM Morisato13 said

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@TrogdorForHire

To add to that sarcasm...

All the ville games are literally the same game except it's just reskinned. This is not the reskinning of say... the Madden franchise, even though as gamers, we consider that basically reskinned. Madden at least changes player stats which alters the game play very very VERY slightly. All ville games are literally reskins where you can actually see every item corresponding to an item in each game and functioning exactly the same.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 9:19PM bm111 said

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@Morisato13

Really? Wow, I had no idea it was actually that bad. I thought they would've at least made an actual new game for each, even if it was a rehash... but they're -literally- reskins? Wow.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 11:49PM Nolan North said

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Not to mention that there's actually a demand for Mario titles, including Mario Kart. People would be pissed if they didn't make more. Plus, Nintendo only does one per console, so even though Mario Kart 7 is available, it is the only one on 3DS (minus Super Circuit for ambassadors)
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 9:18AM Colin said

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@bm111

Nah, that's an exaggeration. The games all have very slight differences in mechanics and styles, but not much. It's like the difference between Sims expansion packs; new setting, a few new mechanics and same graphic style.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 11:00AM Axcalibur said

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@TrogdorForHire

It's ashame Joystiq writers like Ben Gilbert make comments like this - it's either he has a hate-on for Nintendo, or he's just ignorant.

His first comment in this piece doesn't make sense either - pointing out that Reggie usually says a lot by saying a little, except in this case. Then in the same paragraph, (since apparently his comments aren't obvious to everyone else, even though, they are), Ben decides to just reiterate Reggie's comments in his own words - and personally, I don't get the impression that's what Reggie "meant" either...

This is a great story (about Reggie commenting on Zynga, etc), just poorly written. Another case of Joystiq trying to be funny or clever when they should focus more on facts.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:21PM daraikenu said

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Oh God, can you imagine if Zynga made a social using any one of Nintendo's franchises?

Ugh.

Double ugh.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:24PM daraikenu said

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@daraikenu *social game

Also: Samus needs your help fighting off metroids! Ask your friends for 10 ice beams!

Or however it goes, not like I read all that spam on Facebook.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:59PM dscuber9000 said

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@daraikenu Social Pokemon RPG. Sign me up.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 11:04AM Axcalibur said

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@daraikenu

Double Ugh, indeed - but I would say if Nintendo made a social Facebook game, I probably would be inclined to give it a go.

Nintendo would definitely come up with something far better than Zynga could ever dream (and then Zynga would just copy and paste).

Best bet - An "Animal Crossing" game on Facebook, developed by Nintendo, that is compatible in some ways to the next Animal Crossing game. You could do some of your "chores" and such on Facebook (while at work, of course) - then when you get home and play on the Wii U - you can reap the benefits (I say "Wii U" as an assumption - and personally would prefer a console version over a handheld version in the future...)
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:28PM TechnoSyndrome said

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Did Reggie turn into an asshole at somepoint, or was he always an asshole and I'm just starting to notice?

Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:39PM Cypher FDP said

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@TechnoSyndrome
Reggie is a human sex machine, your petty interactions are beneath his notice.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:48PM Markolie said

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@TechnoSyndrome Oh he always was, ever since he first set foot on the E3 stage... I am sure there are better presidents for Nintendo in the US out there...
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:49PM Aanx said

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@TechnoSyndrome
Its ok to be an asshole when it comes to bashing Zynga.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:54PM Gmail Calendar Rep said

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@TechnoSyndrome

It's common behavior for emperors of dying empires.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 9:06PM WeRequireMOARMinerals said

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@Gmail Calendar Rep Yep. The company with the most sales this generation. That will be a veeeeery slow death.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 11:20PM darkinchworm said

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@WeRequireMOARMinerals
Let me add to that, the company with one annual loss in 30 years
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:33PM Zetro said

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Like it or not, Mario Kart is a great series, and nothing Zynga owns can top it.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 8:09PM Gmail Calendar Rep said

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@Zetro

Cart racers are a dime a dozen Zynga could easily replicate it into a Facebook game
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 8:13PM Mcmax3000 said

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@Gmail Calendar Rep - Kart racers might be a dime a dozen but outside of Mario Kart, none of them are really popular or sell well, nor are most of them any good (there are some exceptions but generally if it's not Mario Kart, it sucks).
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 8:20PM Zetro said

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@Gmail Calendar Rep Oh please no, the last thing we need is KartVille....
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 12:52PM kilroy214 said

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@Zetro

How about Karts with friends?
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 7:49PM hotstew said

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The thing is that Zynga just isn't a game company.
They don't care at all about giving the player a good experience, instead they're obsessed with what psychological tricks they could pull this time to gouge out another buck from your hard-earned money.
Too bad you can't buy respect.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 8:16PM Gmail Calendar Rep said

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@hotstew

You just described half the games this generation, look at the XP/carrot on a stick system in Call of Duty,MMOs, achievements, DLC, preorder DLC, DLC achievements.
Animal Crossing is a few steps away from a Zynga game, AC would make a perfect Facebook game.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 9:09PM WeRequireMOARMinerals said

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@Gmail Calendar Rep IT's sad, but you are right there.

I hate the new trend of carrot on a stick games.

I've literally seen people saying that the game doesn't "motivate them" enough to keep playing. As in, there's no prestige mode for game X! OMG OMG OMG!

I'm wondering if they ever played games to actually have fun, instead of obsessing over an arbitrary number.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 11:25PM (Unverified) said

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"Animal Crossing is a few steps away from a Zynga game, AC would make a perfect Facebook game."

No. Just no. I was agreeing with you until I read that statement.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 11:07AM Axcalibur said

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@Gmail Calendar Rep

I agree completely (which is odd, considering your ignorant comments earlier on this post).

Animal Crossing would make a great Facebook game. Especially if it's compatible with the next console version. Do some chores and stuff on Facebook (while at work, of course), then reap the benefits when you get home. Get your friends and family in the mix so they can help you out, even if they don't own the console version. It would be a great cross-platform experience that might boost Animal Crossing's popularity in North America (encourage Facebook users to purchase a Nintendo console and Animal Crossing).
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 8:24PM (Unverified) said

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Oh come on, man, it's not fair comparing the Villes to Mario Kart. It's just one of many, many Nintendo franchises.. Zynga is a one-trick pony.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 10:19PM ThatGuyFromTV said

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Holy balls I just had the best idea. F2P Starfox, sort of like an MMO. That would be PERFECT.

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 12:08AM TehPeanut said

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Troll harder, Gilbert.

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 12:23AM Warlock234 said

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Still not sure how to say his name. Used to think it was "Fills-Aim" then I thought it was "Fee-Uh-May". I don't think anybody really knows.

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 2:37AM Hinchy said

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@Warlock234 It's "fees-a-may".
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 12:35AM TaengtheHero said

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Nintendo has no right to say S*** about another company creating the same game over and over.
May I present the Wii, and all 15 million games, which are really just the same 10 games with a couple of changed graphics now and then.
It's called shovelware or 'me, too' kind of of development, and Nintendo's lack of caring on third party titles has kept me from ever getting one.

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 1:33AM Raikulxox said

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@TaengtheHero You speak as if Nintendo made the games themselves.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 6:38AM ScruffyTheJanitor said

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@TaengtheHero The majority of that "shovelware" you refer to is 3rd party, if you even know what that means.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 1:50PM Soiden said

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@TaengtheHero

So Nintendo has made all third party games for Wii, and Wii has 15 million games...
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Posted: Jan 8th 2012 1:34AM AntiVillian said

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@TaengtheHero

you seem to think Nintendo needs some kind of censorship plan to filter bad games on their console. It is not Nintendo's right to decide when a game is good or bad but rather simply whether a game works or doesn't. They don't allow games on their console that break it and that is all they are entitled to do.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 1:32AM type2red said

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Nintendo will never go down you go Reggie now send me a free wii u lol

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 1:57AM hami83 said

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They already have tried this with Nintendo coins.

Think of all the coins you have to spend on Mii Plaza for Puzzles and hats, and the amount of coins needed to unlock all features with their new messenger service.

Replace those coins with dollars or imagine if 5-10 coins cost a buck, then you have F2P software that's worse then most F2P games on IOS and Facebook.

Also if they can't even get digital right, I really doubt they'll ultimately get F2P right.
I mean they don't even have digital sales...I mean really? In this day and age you are expected to pay full price for digital games that are over a year old?

Also it's Reggie. He's an idiot and talks out his caboose.

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 2:39AM Hinchy said

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@hami83 Except for the fact that the coins are free, and 5-10 coins costing a dollar is a figure you pulled completely out of your ass.

Also, if you're talking about the Virtual Console games, while I agree they're overpriced, a $4 Game Boy game is by no means "full price".
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 11:15AM hami83 said

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@Hinchy Yes I did pull the number out of my ass so people can see that the Nintendo coins on the 3DS is every bit the structure of F2P games, if not worse considering how much you need and how little you get.

Yes, they are free, THANKFULLY, but all I'm saying is Nintendo is probably trying out F2P structure without pissing anyone off buy actually charging money.

And by full price I mean, from time to time, digital platforms like PSN, Steam, XBL, Gog.com, Origin all have sales for their digital content. Nintendo's digital platforms never have sales, ever.
A game that was released over a year ago for $10 (World of Goo for example) is still $10 today and always will be. Not even a sale, for anything. It's pretty pathetic.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2011 1:55PM Nergy said

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Never thought i'd see the day where people on here defend a business that basically makes pyramid schemes instead of a legitimate company like Nintendo.

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 5:18PM JCat said

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why is Zynga even in the same sentence as Mario anything? I just saw the name Zynga in the topic and I cringed.

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 5:27PM Milf Biggenson said

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On the one hand, I find it hypocritical of Fils-Aime to be knocking another company for spamming iterations, since Nintendo was build upon that. On the other hand, I couldn't care less about Zynga. On the other hand again, does Nintendo have any real reason to make such bold statements against an upstart company if they're not really affected? Methinks Reggie doth protest too much. I think Reggie is lashing out at ALL of the companies making games for Apple, IOS, Social gaming etc that are incredibly popular, have revenue streams and retail for either nothing or 99 cents. If I was Nintendo, I'd be crapping in my pants too. The times they are a changing and the one thing that ain't changing? Nintendo.

Posted: Dec 27th 2011 8:32PM TaengtheHero said

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Of course Nintendo didn't make all those games. That ridiculous to even say, let alone accuse me of not knowing. What I was commenting about was the fact that the Big N didn't care what kind of crap people made for their system, as long as they got the cash.
And That's what led to a LOT of Third-party games looking, sounding, and playing alike.
Exactly how many times do we need a "Family super fun party game night deluxe"?
That's where I feel like Nintendo should look in their own garden, before pointing out weeds in anothers.

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