Namco Bandai takes note of Dark Souls PC petition

@ovoon I'd double dip on DS

@ovoon

I want it on PC badly since the PS3 version (not sure about 360) is SO laggy. I'm sure my PC could handle the game. But my god the framerate in the Forest of this game is atrocious! A few other areas too.

Plus...I imagine the mod community for this game would go NUTS!

@ovoon

I just hope that if they do i, they make a REAL pc version, not a cheap console port, and on Steam no stupid games for windows...... maybe it´s time to start a second petition.

@ovoon Yeah... so long as it's not "Games for Windows" I'll double dip. Higher resolutions and a smoother frame rate, please! :D Plus, if it's actually a good port, who knows what other goodies they'll add (c'mon 3D).

@ovoon

I'd buy it, if I could use a controller of some sort on PC. That game is one that I think a keyboard and mouse wouldn't work well with, and I don't think I've ever said that before about a game.

@Churrotastic That's a pretty good comparison, IMO.

@Ovy

Because every PC gamer pirates everything. My Steam library? All stolen games with hacks and stuff.

Right?

@Vocality
you're the exception buddy, not the rule. i can't stand hearing people in the lab, talking about pirating this and that game, bragging about playing it before release [arkham city] and complaining how they were glad they didn't pay. this was a group of like 10, and sadly i was the odd man out who bought the damn thing. but hey i enjoyed it.

@Roxas560

Maybe that is less "most people steal it" and more "you surround yourself with selfish assholes." Steam is a huge success for a reason. People buy PC games. If 9 out of 10 people on PC pirated games, there would literally be no PC games. While it's more profitable to publish on consoles, there is still money to be made in PC. Otherwise the last "new" PC game would have been in 2001.

@Ovy I don't want to say this applies to only multiplayer games, but have a great game that encourages people to purchase the game and play it online legitimately is worth its weight in gold. Look at World of Warcraft, Left 4 Dead, League of Legends as successful examples. Sure, you can pirate your copy and rent your own private off-shore server to play these games, but you'd be missing out on an incredible gaming experience. I signed that petition ready to hand over my $50-60 to play this game because I know my friends will play it and we're ready to have damn good time. Make the game worth it and less practical to pirate it, and people will buy it.

@Roxas560 If they are playing games before release they are pirating console games. All console games have been pirated at least a week before release. The same is not true about PC games which very rarely leak early.

@Roxas560 Then say something. Tell them it's not cool that they pirate software, and that you're against it. You don't have to rag on them all the time, but speaking your mind once in a while build character.

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

@Roxas560
"The exception"? Do you even know what you're talking about?

Go look at Steam's user activity (hint: in the TENS of MILLIONS) then come back and say the same thing with a straight face so we can take you straight to the nuthouse.

@Vocality No offense mate, but as a die hard PC gamer myself, pretending like theft isn't an issue for PC games is just you sticking your head in the sand. I hate software thieves with a passion and they give us good PC gamers a bad name, but I don't fault non-PC gamers for thinking we're all like that.

Software thieves are a big part of the PC community.

@Ovy
Completely agree, these people can say all they want about "lots of people buy their games just look at steam sales" but just because the majority is honest in their gaming doesn't make piracy not an issue. The less people that pirate the more money devs make and the more incentive they have to make more great games. If ten million people buy a game and one million people steal it that's still one million people too many.

@wrongThinker

Never said piracy wasn't an issue. But lumping all PC gamers in as pirates for no reason is a bit much.

@Roxas560 Arkham City actually took a while to crack and wasn't even anywhere near available before launch or even at launch. Therefore, your story is completely fabricated.

@Teeree

Didn't worked for porting Tales of Vesperia on PS3 for North America/Europe.

@LarZen You're a jerk.

Just look at the incredible sales for Skyrim, the 100% Year over year increase of sales for Steam for the SEVENTH straight year for evidence,

A similar game to Darksouls, the Witcher 2 sold over a million copies in 6 months, over 30% of which are digital (giving them at least twice as much money as a console retail sale would have).

Pirates are pirates, on any platform, they aren't PC gamers, or console gamers. They are irrelevant to the market.

@Kinthalis Yeah im the big bad wolf.

Funny you mention The Witcher 2, it sold over 1 million copies and is so far pirated over 4,5 million copies.

It's gonna be realy interesting to se how many copies The Witcher 2 wil sell on the X360 when it comes, with the right marketing I think it wil oblitirate the pc sales.

Pirates aint irrelevant to the market at all, they have more power over what is coming and what kind of insane copy protection it wil have for the pc community then you think.

@Kinthalis Instead of name calling someone who is speaking truths, why don't you take a step further are speak against piracy against our joystiq peers on this blog that support it. I don't recally seeing you in those debates.

@LarZen ya know I havent pirated a PC game in a LONG time, yet I still pirate wii games, I really need to stop doing that

@LarZen I don't need to pirate when I have steam. I was glad to dump 150 bucks into the Skyrim Collector's Edition on PC. Some of the best dollars spent.

@LarZen I think a part of you is jealous that its coming to the PC. :)

I hope you dont actually think Witcher 2 would have sold 4.5 million copies if not for piracy. Thats more than Uncharted 3. For a niche game like Witcher 1 million is a respectable number on consoles.

number of times pirated != number of lost sales

@LarZen

You know people pirate console games too right? I myself know of 2 people that have modded their 360s to play burned games...

@liquidsoap89
Ssshh, don't tell him that! That's like telling a kid that Santa doesn't exist!

@LarZen
That sort of logic was the one that Crytek used when Crysis 1 was PC exclusive. 3 Million copies sold later, they still though that the game would have sold more on consoles. Then came Crysis 2. 2 million copies over all 3 platforms. Less than Crysis 1 which was PC only. I guess all those xbox and PS3 players must have pirated the game!

@Kinthalis Calm down chief. Piracy is an undeniable problem for the industry for all platforms, but even more so for the pc. I'm not saying that every pc gamer pirates their games, but come on man, there is a reason a lot of companies don't go out of their way to support the pc. The rate of piracy is higher on pc than likely all the other platforms combined or close to it. The reason is simple, it's easier and there's a bigger market for it. Unfortunately denial won't make it go away. Just buy the game and keep supporting your favorite games, that way no one will ever to be able to claim you didn't do your part to help give companies a reason to keep trying.

@Xero Theory
"Growing a thicker skin" has nothing to do with what people are getting peeved about. There's quite a sect of loony gamers who are literally saying "DON'T PORT THIS TO PC. IT'LL GET PIRATED TO HELL AND BACK". They don't want ANYONE, even legit consumers, to play the game on the PC because of some incredibly idiotic notion that high piracy = no profit.

The reason the PC platform has higher piracy rates is due to it being that much easier, but that really doesn't significantly affect the publisher's bottom line since a very large amount of pirates inflate the piracy numbers by downloading simply because they can, not because they were actually potential consumers. If piracy was truly as bad as some people like to say, no company would ever make a game for the PC, and absolutely no one would make the PC their primary platform.

Unfortunately for the naysayers, neither of the above two statements are true. If companies can and continue to rake in the profit on PC gaming, piracy isn't really as big a detrimental issue as some people like to claim.

@PointlessPuppies First of all, rereading my comment makes me think commenting on my smart phone isn't such a good idea due to all the typo's.

Now, I've never heard of the people who are out and out calling for a boycott of the PC by game makers. If that really happens then, well, wow. If what you say is true, it seems to me like the people calling for that are doing it more so because they are fanboys and want to deprive their PC counterparts from enjoying a game to prove the superiority of their console, which means it has really nothing to do with piracy. But regardless, none of that disproves my point. Just because someone mentions piracy on the PC doesn't mean they are accusing you of piracy so you don't need to bring up you huge steam library or any of that as that doesn't do anything to disprove that piracy is a problem (i'm not speaking specifically when I say "you" of coarse). You may be right that people may download a game on the PC more because they can, but that still equates to someone stealing a product and not giving the dev and pub any money. Whether it actually equates to a loss of sales is secondary to the fact that their product is being stolen and used for free. Even if you weren't going to buy my game and you just downloaded it because you could, I wouldn't be ok with you stealing from me either way. Stealing is stealing.

@Bro

I second this.