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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 4:38PM arucious said

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I don't see how a government can tell grown people what they should or should not do

Posted: Jan 24th 2012 4:57PM Roflrex said

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@arucious Every government does this, unless you are that one guy that created his own island out of plastic bottles and he practically became his own nation.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 6:30PM McPo said

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@Roflrex
Has if america would allow that
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 8:46AM AntiVillian said

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@arucious

The words SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and PCFIPA came to mind. How could a government tell it's people what they should and shouldn't do?
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 8:46AM AntiVillian said

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@AntiVillian

inb4 acronyms
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 4:39PM Dashx747 said

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I'm rooting for our Australians friends. There should be no censorship in any medium, as it's time for the government to understand that adults play games too.

Posted: Jan 24th 2012 7:35PM MizzDiva said

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@Dashx747

So true. Our Aussie gamers deserve a break now. Here's to hoping all goes well.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 8:08PM MystcLazrDragon said

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@Dashx747
They could also use much cheaper games, it's an expensive habit over there.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 4:43PM Mr Pikachuu said

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Hey look its a bill that doesn't take away any of your rights! And its actually improving something for the better! Oh..wait..its Australia..Well good for them. Now if only americas government..

Posted: Jan 24th 2012 4:46PM Thesifer said

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"The point of the R18+ rating is to create an equivalent to the United States' ESRB "M" and Europe's "PEGI 18," allowing games deemed unsuitable for those under 15 years-of-age to be sold in the country. "

That's incorrect. The R18+ wouldn't be equivalent to ESRB because ESRB is completely mandatory. (And hopefully it always stays that way.) Australia has had to deal with censorship because short-sighted politicians (idiots) passed bills without thinking that virtually banned the sale of many video games. (Mortal Kombat is one of them.)

For theirs to be equivalent they would have to change their ratings to be voluntary. Which one could argue would work better in the long run anyways. The amount of compliance with the ESRB in the United States is astounding considering there are no fines, jail time, or any other penalties that go along with selling to minors.

Posted: Jan 24th 2012 4:47PM Thesifer said

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@Thesifer Mandatory should be "Voluntary" sorry was thinking about Australian system when writing out the American system.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 4:49PM Thesifer said

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@Thesifer Also the commenting system on Joystiq is atrocious. No ability to edit a comment, ever. And the delay between writing, and active and oh wait it's not active, wait it is, wait where'd it go? Oh there is it.. wait where? oh.. It's back? ... uhh What?!
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 5:16PM Dan50 said

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@Thesifer Also the ESRB's 18 rating is a banning in a way. Luckily this 18 rating won't be.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 5:19PM Drakkenfyre said

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Enforcement of the ESRB isn't exactly astounding because many retailers won't sell games that aren't rated.

It's like AO rated games. Nothing is stopping a company from developing one, but almost no retailers would sell it, so almost no AO games get made for the US market by big companies.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 6:08PM Dan50 said

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@Drakkenfyre Yea but unrated movies and music A OK. *Facepalms*
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 6:11PM Foetoid said

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@Thesifer

Banned the sale of many games? None of them are any GOOD! Mortal Kombat is pretty well the ONLY exception, the rest are garbage that are better not NOT clogging up the shelves at EB Games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games#Australia

I just don't know how i can survive without such classics as "Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude" and "BMX XXX". Oh and not happy about missing out on "Soldier of Fortune: Payback", isn't that the best shooter of the last 20 years? /megasarcasmface

The only games of any substance we've missed out on, is Mortal Kombat (a big loss to me yes) and our watered-down version of L4D2 is actually less violent than the original. 2 games in the history of videogames worth talking about and everyone is chucking up a big stink about it?

Don't get me wrong, im in full support of the R18+ games because the fact is, 99.9% of 18+ games in the US get released here, unedited, and slapped with MA15+. We have the most lenient gaming classification system around, but it does mean 15 year olds are playing very violent games, and we miss out on 1 or 2 games in the last 20 years or so. 18+ games will simply mean kids wont be able to play them, and we'll finally get mortal kombat. So of course i am in support of the bill, i just dont think its necessary that the australian government (who isnt the decision maker here btw, it took the attourney generals ages to get this sorted, NOW the government is getting it passed) and australia in general be criticized constantly over 2 measly games.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 5:04PM sammo21 said

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For a country born as a prison colony I find their stances somewhat ironic at times.

Posted: Jan 24th 2012 5:08PM Shadowbender said

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Look, I understand this was to take a hefty amount of time. But I could have sworn R18 was pretty much accepted over there, just about done with.

What's up?

Posted: Jan 24th 2012 5:20PM Drakkenfyre said

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From what I remember, the guy who actually controls the ratings board took issue with the bill, and tried to block it.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 8:12PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Shadowbender

The Attorney Generals, who are the administrative support to the Classification Board, have to all agree on any changes that are too be made to the ratings system.

After a long period of time where one of the Attorney Generals refused to support an 18+ rating it was finally approved by all of them as being a viable change.

A bill citing the changes to the ratings system then needs to get passed by Parliament so that it can actually become part of the law.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2012 5:15PM Dan50 said

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This will still allow the banning of violent/sexual games. Just not as many as before.

Posted: Jan 24th 2012 5:29PM adr916 said

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PEGI :)

Posted: Jan 24th 2012 6:12PM Kevadu said

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Maybe one day Australian adults will be treated like adults.

Posted: Jan 25th 2012 12:07AM Esposch said

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@Kevadu

That day is long-gone...
It disappeared the second we decided to follow in the footsteps of the more "civilised" UK and US.
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