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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 8:51PM (Unverified) said

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This is a rare reversal. Usually iOS games end up on other platforms with inflated prices.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 8:54PM Arcana said

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The anal in me is not pleased with gaffgarion's class name change to fell knight instead of dark knight wotl.

The 12 year old in me chuckles 'cause I said anal.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 11:58PM lolkeits said

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@Arcana

Oh my god THIS.

I wish they'd left the localization alone. It's Algus not Argath!

Also I've been waiting for the iPad version for half a year, then the day it comes out is the day after I get my Vita and buy it for ten bucks on PSN. :$
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 4:18PM Axe99 said

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@lolkeits It's the first game I'm playing on my Vita (while Wipeout downloads in the background) and it's extra sweet on the big screen, and not having to use touch controls is a big plus as well :).
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 8:57PM Etansel said

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While I agree $18 is highway robbery for the game, it isn't the same game on PSN.

PSN has the PSOne Classic edition of the game, which is the original PS1 release.

iPad/iPhone had the War of the Lions edition of the game, which is the PSP re-make of the original with the following differences:

Shared between iPad/iPhone:
*Re-written dialog to clarify the story a bit better and fix translation issues from the original.
*Added FMV movies (which one is in the header to this article).
*Sharper graphics compared to the original edition (Retina display supported).
*Touch controls
*The ability to spin and zoom the camera in precision increments, instead of the 4-point isometric view the PS1 version uses

iPhone Exclusive:
*$2 cheaper then the iPad version
*Fixed the Slowdown issue from the PSP version (The PSP version had a nasty framerate issue when using special attacks and during cut scenes where it would drop to ~20fps). This however was addressed by just putting a frameskip in place which now causes the special attacks and cut scenes to move FASTER then the original.
*More portable then carrying an iPad everywhere.

iPad exclusive:
*Fixed the Slowdown issue from the PSP version (The PSP version had a nasty framerate issue when using special attacks and during cut scenes where it would drop to ~20fps). I've heard (not seen yet) that the framerate is now normalized in the iPad version
*The graphics have been given an HD overhaul
*$2 more then the iPhone version

In my opinion, if you want War of the Lions and don't want to suffer through the horrid slowdown from the PSP, this is a pricey yet worthwhile purchase. I cannot however recommend it to anyone who bought the iPhone version first since there's not enough different here to really justify $18 on top of the $16 already spent.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:14PM Roto13 said

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@Etansel War of the Lions is on PSN.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:16PM VampireEater said

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@Etansel
than*
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:17PM Jason B said

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@Etansel

PSN has both the original and the War of the Lions edition for $10 each.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 12:13AM jsx92 said

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Their games are never in Top Grossing so obviously their pricing model sucks since it's hard to argue the game isn't a higher caliber than most.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 4:35AM Etansel said

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@Etansel

I would love an edit button right now.

The War of the Lions on PSN for $10 is in fact the same game, yes.
However, it's the PSP version of the game. That comes with the horrid framerate issue of the PSP version, in addition to only being able to play on the 1^2^3^000 series of PSPs (No PSPgo support).

Update for WotL:
*The iPhone just recently got an update that added the option to skip cut scenes. And "Minor bug fixes". This update did not address the sped up cut scene issue, however.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 6:24AM Punkrawk Bbob said

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@Etansel

I own a PSPGo and have War of the Lions... What are you talking about?

Also, why are we bitching about a game for less than $20? It's still an awesome game, and there really isn't any game that does that Strat RPG better than WotL in my opinion. It's not like they're asking $40-60 for it like a new game. While yes, it's way more than whatever else is available on iOS - But it's also significantly more fulfilling than Angry Birds or Fruit Ninja. That's like comparing White Castle to a filet mignon. Sure they're both beef and fill you up, but ENTIRELY different level of satisfaction.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 12:17PM Roto13 said

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@Etansel There aren't any downloadable PSP games that won't work on the PSP Go....
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 8:58PM (Unverified) said

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Good news Joystiq, it's a suppository.
(I really want to hear their reasoning behind such a price difference between such versions).

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 10:42PM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) Took too long to post my reply. But Etansel has clearly answered why it costs more.
TheMoreYouKnow.jpg
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:00PM (Unverified) said

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I really wish I could play this on my PS3. I've been a fan of FFT for years and years, but I don't have an iPhone, iPad or PSP.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:15PM Roto13 said

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@(Unverified) There's really not much new in War of the Lions. The PSOne Classic version on the PSN is close enough.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:16PM VampireEater said

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@(Unverified)
You don't? Why not??
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 1:04AM Aeschylus said

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@(Unverified) So now you can spend all that cash you saved on a Vita.
My WotL is on UMD, don't feel like dropping more gil to see if it runs better on the Vita.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:15PM Mmmmz said

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Good for them.

I don't fault them for expecting full blown idiots to support such pricing structures.

It'd be stupid of them NOT to get the most they can get.

I don't like such pricing, and therefore won't buy it, but I don't fault them. Just the idiots that will buy it.

At least if they enjoy it they'll be happy idiots.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:54PM sigma8 said

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@Mmmmz
Compared to the geniuses who desperately want it yet can never enjoy it, but are $18 richer? I agree it's a little steep, but I don't think anyone who buys it is an idiot. The game is great--certainly worth more than most (if not all) other iOS games.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:19PM Darklink2009 said

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Square, if this was $10, I'd buy it for the third time. I'd love to be able to play this on the way to work on my iPad. $18, however, is enough for me to say no.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:20PM tanooki equipped said

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sure it was 16 bucks, but i've enjoyed FFT:WoL on my phone since it launched. am i checking work emails at the jobsite? or making my chemist's stab each other to get enough JP for auto-potion? ....yes its worth every penny

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:20PM Darklink2009 said

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@Beergut Quite the opposite. She's pushing Delita away.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:37PM Faceless Troll said

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Think I'll stick to my UMD War of the Lions.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:55PM TheHamsterplan said

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Yes! I've been waiting for this!
I wasn't sure I could hold off much longer from spending the just-shy-of-$10 in iTunes gift card money I've had sitting in my account for a month.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 10:17PM tkashur said

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I got the UMD of this game and could not finish it because of the mind numbing lag that would happen with almost any attack. Did they fix the issue with the psn download?

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 10:26PM omicron1 said

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Square*Enix doesn't GET the idea of re-releases, do they? The idea is to release the thing for reasonable prices. Especially on a platform where the median price is $.99. Especially when the PSP version can be had for $10 new on Amazon! Especially when you've already released the bloody iPhone version but won't even bother giving previous owners a discount!

They've done this over and over and over on this platform. They never seem to stop and ask themselves "Why exactly is our game worth five times as much as the (excellent) Battle for Wesnoth?" They just arrogantly assume that people will shell out any price tag they slap on the thing. It's a slap in the face, and it's long past time they learned some sort of lesson on arrogance.

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 12:26AM TheChezDispenser said

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@omicron1

Yes, let's teach them a lesson, wot, wot! It's high time these fools dared not to put hardcore titles with some of the best writing in any game ever at anything resembling it's original selling price!
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 12:28AM TheChezDispenser said

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God, thank you for this translation. The old one's gaffes murdered the serious tone of the story for someone like me.

Plus, I'm a theater geek, so the pseudo-Elizabethan dialogue (which complements the already Shakespearean theatrics going on anyway) makes me gleefully giggle.

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 12:50AM gatotsu911 said

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Is the slowdown in this version as atrocious as, uh, all the other ones?

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 1:01AM thejuanald said

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It's a shame that this iPad version was released weeks before the new iPad with a Retina Display is announced instead of last August...then October...like it was supposed to. It will take them another year to upgrade it for the Retina Display.

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 2:10AM ShadowXIII said

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@Beergut

I'm so glad I don't have that problem...., you know the whole "I see a penis in everything" disorder.

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 2:36AM Oldtaku said

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Japanese devs are too slow and hidebound at this point to compete. They need to charge you super-premium prices for old re-releases. How about that Jet Grind Radio port, ehhhhh?

Unless they're Platinum or maybe Capcom or have their little niche like Atlus, this is ALL THEY HAVE LEFT.

Be gentle.

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 3:16AM BananaBoat said

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@Beergut - No, it actually does look a lot like she's considering grabbing his mailed penis.

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 7:21PM Mazrael said

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@BananaBoat "That" was the very first thing I saw -_-
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 5:34AM TCJJ said

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I dunno, I still think it's nice to have the iOS version because of it being a superior port of the PSP version (with the added cutscenes and what not), but I'm just so frustrated that Square Enix keeps pumping out these games and not making them universal, whilst still charging ridiculous amounts. And I still buy them..... I'd probably go for the iPad versions, but I only have an iPhone. That being said, it still annoys me that for the price, they aren't even universal. Even if they charged another $5 for a universal version, I'd be more than willing to buy it.

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 10:55AM Terce said

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I'll just continue playing it on PSP thank you very much

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 11:21AM Saxonius said

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Is it just me, or is the screenshot of some guy reaching for a golden robot penis?

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 5:59PM Everything I say is true said

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@Saxonius I was thinking the same thing!!
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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 4:06PM Algemar said

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I played through the WotL version when I had a PSP many moons ago, but like with Final Fantasy VII, part of the charm of the original to me was the horrible translation. That, and why did they feel the need to change most of the character names? Argath instead of Algus? Seriously, was there a good reason for that? Or were they just trying to constantly slap you in the face with a reminder that you're playing an updated version?

I actually just spent around $20 to buy a like new black label version of the PSX game from Amazon. I'd rather play the original anyway.

Square has gone way downhill since merging with Enix, IMHO.

Posted: Feb 24th 2012 8:03PM zombieguy said

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I was about to say "cool another reason for me to get an iOS device". But at those prices...

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Posted: Feb 24th 2012 9:43PM PimpDaddyLaFlare said

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am i the only one that saw her touching a penis at first?

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