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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 8:58AM Fawst said

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I am astonished that this is a thing that exists. It's also kinda great.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 8:59AM Golgo13 said

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I don't care. Poison is hot.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 7:09PM def PD said

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@Golgo13

*high fives* I'm with you!

I've got a total nerd crush on both Poison and Bayonetta.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 7:12PM def PD said

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@def PD

I forgot to add Seong Mi-na, Julia Chang, Sylvia Christel, and Cammy.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 8:59AM darkheartlessriku said

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but it was a girl originally but they had to change it for US since times were different and hitting a girl in a game was a big deal. So no 20 min documentary can change the fact that she is a girl. Only changed because ESRB or whatever of the early 90's.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:10AM vidguy said

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@darkheartlessriku

Do you have a better source, or did you not watch the first three minutes of the video?
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:11AM Faenix said

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@darkheartlessriku

did you not watch the video? it says the original concept art called her a "newhalf"
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:14AM RecoveryDisc said

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@darkheartlessriku The documentary addresses this in the first 3 minutes.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:18AM LordSkyline said

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@darkheartlessriku
0/10 Try harder next time.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:34AM Jing2487 said

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@darkheartlessriku
So you felt the need to comment on something you didnt bother to watch? This was the first thing he debunked within the first two and a half minutes.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:46AM Punkrawk Bbob said

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@darkheartlessriku

Research > assumption.

Dig around the net a little before you claim an (overly) dedicated researcher is wrong.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:52AM Koming said

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@darkheartlessriku

mr. "expert" in denial.

kill yourself.

Thanks.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:58AM Punkrawk Bbob said

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@darkheartlessriku

Also, for the record.. ESRB didn't exist in the early 90s. It was created mostly due to Mortal Kombat. Which let you beat the shit out of Sonya. Which Street Fighter let you beat the shit out of Chun-Li. So obviously violence vs women isn't the reason. There was no ESRB at the time and there were plenty of other video games where violence against women existed without controversy.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:08AM TraceurRyuk Part III said

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@Punkrawk Bbob

Not only did they let you beat the shit out of Sonya, they let your rip her spinal column out.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 5:49PM sjenky said

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@TraceurRyuk Part III
Of course, she could kill you too.. with a kiss *sigh* .. now that's equality!
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:16PM Punkrawk Bbob said

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@sjenky

I always took that kiss as a symbol for STDs.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2012 12:43AM (Unverified) said

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@darkheartlessriku There was no "ESRB or whatever" of the early '90s. There was no video game rating system at all. You clearly weren't around at the time.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:01AM Marshillboy said

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Um, ok.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:09AM The Tim said

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I read the headline and my first thought was of the '90s glam rock band. Funny thing is, it made sense.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:11AM Faenix said

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Still think Poisons character model is hot, and it kind of makes me want to play Street Fighter X Tekken ... XD

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:15AM CaptainProtonX said

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Newhalf is my new term of the day. I'm going to use it in a meeting at least once.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:26AM Darklink2009 said

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@CaptainProtonX We're looking at future financial projections today. In the newhalf, we will be seeing advanced economic growth opportunities to synergize our earnings potential.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:30AM CaptainProtonX said

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@Darklink2009

You could be my VP.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:24AM Fawst said

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Back when Final Fight first came out in US arcades, I remember thinking that it was a clever joke on Capcom's part. I thought "she" was supposed to be a play on the band Poison, seeing as how they were a hair metal/glam band and were pretty much mildly crossdressing in their own MTV generation way and that the gender issue was something to laugh at. This video was a pretty compelling argument for Poison actually being a TG. Well played.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:28AM Faceless Troll said

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This is newsworthy? I thought it was settled ages ago.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:31AM CaptainProtonX said

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@Faceless Troll

The awesome video is newsworthy.

I haven't had this much fun with a Capcom property in years.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:01AM The Moof said

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@Faceless Troll

This debate will always go on. Not because there's some compelling evidence on both sides (cuz, as the video points out, there isn't). It will always be debated because people aren't comfortable with a hyper-sexual player model being a transvestite.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 11:20AM Faceless Troll said

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@The Moof I think some people need to grow up.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 11:40AM The Joy of Painting w Bob Ross said

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@The Moof

A transvestite is completely different from a transgender individual.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 1:46PM estebannn said

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@The Joy of Painting w Bob Ross

Not trying to nitpick, but transvestites/cross-dressers (the PC term now is actually cross-dresser) are transgender. Transgender is an umbrella term that contains transsexuals, intersex, bigender, genderfluid, cross-dressers, drag queens/kings. The definition changes depending on who you talk to, but in general it's an umbrella term.

And like the video clarifies she is mtf (male to female) pre-op in Japan and post op in NA...which is really dumb but whatever.

BUT regardless I think it's awesome that there is a trans person in a major video game series and they don't try to make her into some kinda of bad stereotype. She's just a post-op MTF that is living as the way she wants to.

and on another note, idk if those quotes from Ryu and Chun-Li are translations or tweaked a little bit through localization, but I thought they were kind of rude. They both make it sound like she is a cross-dresser when in American she is supposed to be post-op MTF, which would mean she has no indication of her previous natal sex. Their comments just serve to confuse people further.

OH WELL! Either way kudos to them for repping the trans community.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:49PM Katskratch said

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@estebannn This was awesome. Thanks for posting it.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:32AM Palacios said

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Laces out!

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 3:04PM Diddy Sinatra said

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@Palacios
I wish I could plus 1 this for days
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:36AM blessrok said

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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:38AM mynameisjay said

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I've never been into fighting games. Interesting, though. Next this guy should settle the Birdo debate.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:41AM nighttime said

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violence against women is okay if they hit you with a samurai sword or plumbing pipe.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 9:56AM BlackRoyMustang said

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Everybody knows she's a trans or tranny what ever you like more, it's just like Bridgett.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:05AM baddates77 said

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This sort of has the same problem as the Red Letter Media reviews of the Star Wars prequels. It's too long for the point he's trying to make. You can beat Final Fight in less time than it takes to watch the video. At least this is a bit more interesting than watching some guy bitch about Star Wars for 2 hours in a really annoying voice.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:17AM Ferrous said

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Second most informative video I've seen about cross-gender in video games.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 12:43PM kanga59725 said

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@Ferrous What's the most informative?
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:31AM ColorblindMonk said

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This reinforces my claim I made a while back.

Poison is the Birdo of Capcom.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:52AM grovberg said

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I could not possibly care less about the gender of a fictional character for a game I probably won't even play, but the scope of this video is amazing and just awesome in every way. Well done.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:58AM gunfighter said

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I'm sorry, is this a magic trick?

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 2:08PM LinkRazr said

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@gunfighter it's closer to a magic stick I believe.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 10:59AM yomachaser said

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This has never been shocking for me, I mean my main dude Zangief is officially gay (so is Eagle) so a transgender is fine.

Posted: Feb 27th 2012 11:04AM CaptainProtonX said

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@yomachaser

...hm...25 years of Street Fighter...and I never knew.

Hm...oh well.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 11:25AM yomachaser said

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@CaptainProtonX Oh I thought people knew the Gief one.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2012 5:10PM UncleBibby said

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@yomachaser
Poison is obviously a transexual, and Eagle is officially gay, but I haven't seen anything in the actual StreetFighter canon that even hints that Zangief's gay. Yes, there's an ending in SF2 where Zangief has a picture of Vega by his mirror, but that's making fun of the "fighters keep a pic of their rivals by their mirror" thing. Yes, one description of Zangief said he doesn't like young women, but that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't like women in general, AND he has a love interest in SF-Alpha (R. Mika). Also, he may look like a really gay guy to us North Americans, but to the Japanese I don't think it's supposed to be look that way. It's all misinterpretations on the part of the fanboys.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2012 4:45PM Ruinkind said

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@CaptainProtonX

The man likes to wrestle bears, if you know what I mean.
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Posted: Mar 1st 2012 7:38PM FLPR said

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@UncleBibby He even blushes in his Cinematic trailer for SFxTK when Julia hugs his arm
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