the mathdocter

@91.

Mike, You're on a gaming blog. You should know that a simple conversion of currency cannot be made.

Japan is cheapest, followed closely by North-america,
South-europe and England are way pricier (, Australia and south-americaare comparable to Europe but often later. Africa is forgotten.

for instance a new PS2 game or Xbox game sells for €60
or 76 US DOLLAR;

an Xbox360 game sells for €70 or 89 US DOLLAR.

so it's a good thing you won't moan and bitch too long about the price

Ok. This is bad. I was holding out for the PS3 but almost nothing can stop me now from going the Wii360 way.

I was interested in the wii before this happened. but this makes the decision much easier.
The high pricepoint and the endless delays. Can't take it no more.

goodbye Gran turismo and Metal gear solid. It was fun while it lasted.



too bad. Can't believe the europeans get the delay. It was a market where sony still reigned.
Not as big as in japan. It really is a war now.
the most units go to the toughest market. They' ll keep some units at home. Where they will probably still own the market. And they sacrifice europe
Maybe when they make the price in europe somehow more attractive I could hold out. But they better get that statement out soon. And it isn't likely. I wish someone could explain the conversion rates from yen, dollar, euro and even pounds. The prices of games in europe are unheard of.
chances are that on my way home i'll pick up 360

Just want to add this. Surely Sony and microsoft read these blogs. They have too.
Hope sony will keep bringing out great games for the Ps2. That they don't go the xbox way.
Hope microsoft has learned this lesson too. And they don't stop with releasing great 360 games when the 720 will arrive

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I'll have to correct comment 53 of vidguy.
"Say a great game sells 250,000 copies at $50. That's $12,500,000 total revenue.
Push the game to $60, and 50,000 buyers drop out. That's $12,000,000.
Push the game to $70, and 50,000 more buyers drop out. That's $10,500,000."

Now take the cost of the disc (and the cost of burning the data on it, and the cost to get it to the customers)
Say 15 dollars. Iwon't take development cost in consideration because this is spread over the number of units sold(example development cost is 100.1 unit sold. The development cost for that unit is 100.100 units sold the development cost is 1 for each unit)


250.000*(50-15)=8.750.000
200.000*(60-15)= 9.000.000
150.000*(70-15) = 8.250.000

The price point at which we will sell is at $60.
In fact If the cost is $30 which is quite possible with the bluray format.
250.000*(50-30)=5.000.000
200.000*(60-30)=6.000.000
150.000*(70-30)=6.000.000

Now there are other rules at play also in this market and that is to install a great userbase. I believe the price of games can have a big influence on this.

suppose Xbox360 have their game prices set at $45.
This will mean that it is much easier to pick a game up for the customer.
The media used (DVD) is much cheaper. More people are attracted to their console. So there are more potential buyers for the games. More buyers of the game are important because every buyer pays a part of the developmentcost.
I'm sure the folks of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are well aware of this. (and off course third party support)
Sony has taken a gamble with the bluray but in time a blank bluray disc will only be a little bit more expensive than a blank DVD.
What will decide this war is which console offer the consumer the most bang for their buck.We decide
Is it Nintendo? Pro their controller, development cost
Is it microsoft? Pro Live , development cost
Is it sony ? Pro Bluray (if it becomes the new standard) ;Con development cost a big ? (just like the PS2 was)

@63.
I looked up the price of the gold membership. Just to be sure. It's "only" €60 a year. I remember when I wanted to buy the first Xbox it was €15 a month. That kept me from buying one.Actually I'm thinking now of buying one.
And sell it when MGS4 or GT Vision HD hits the stores. Probably second generation Ps3 with faster drives. Only If sony can provide the online service they promised.


Price of new Xbox360 game is €70. Price of xbox or Ps2 game €60. Price of Guitar Hero with controller(€70)

a comparison

PS3 = €600 (living in Belgium)
PS3 offers free online play

Xbox360= €400
Online play €15 a month

To make the equation more simple
Lets say graphics are comparable. and rule out the blu ray player and HDMI-slot, cardreader

Which one would you choose?

It is PES6. Pre-orders.
Which brings me to another question. Was there ever a game that topped the charts and that still had to be released. I'm thinking the likes of Gran Turismo,final Fantasy, Dragon quest, Tomb raider 2(way back),GTA

PS3 = ?600 (living in Belgium)
PS3 offers free online play

Xbox360= ?400
Online play ?15 a month

To make the equation more simple
Lets say graphics are comparable. and rule out the blu ray player and HDMI-slot, cardreader

Which one would you choose?

@18
Check your remarks before you post.
I live in Belgium. My boss pays roughly €37.500 a year for me. After income tax I receive a mere €16.000 a year. (I'm 35 and cost accountant)
we pay €1.25 for one liter of gasoline. (all sort of taxes)
Internet connection (ADSL : I need a subscription to regular phone service as well) cost €50 a month.(10 gig restriction a month)
Games PS2 games an xbox games currently sell at €60. (In theb beginning at 70)
The classic games sell at €30.
DVD : Between €15 and €25

We have healthcare and unemployment services and so on. we even receive money from the government if we have kids(you have to pay less income tax).
I'm a single guy who's into consumer electronics and games and Europe is not the place to be in then. (Japan or USA)

concerning the math issue of 6 million units.
1 million units by launch early november
1 million units by end of november, december,january,february, march

totals 6 millions units by the end of their fiscal year.