KaibaChaos

"Than don't use it. I mean you do understand that this feature is optional right? You don't have to use it. In fact if you pretend it's not even there, why would it affect you at all?

I'll repeat - Don't use it. If you just ignore it, then it won't affect your motivation at all. The game will be the same for you with or without this OPTIONAL feature. You're a completionist? Good, then go ahead and complete the game without using this feature. How can an optional feature possibly affect your satisfaction. I think Cheat Codes ruin many, many good games, so guess what - I don't use them, and the game is just as challenging and fulfilling to me as if the cheat codes never existed in the first place."

Simply having this feature ruins my motivation to play the game. For example, I might have a really hard time getting through a game and then another person comes along and just uses that feature. It's like if I were to get 10,000 kills in Gears of War for the achievement, then I speak to someone who has glitched it. That really pisses me off. I won't use it because I won't play the game. Believe it or not I was looking forward to New Super Mario Bros Wii, but thing's like this just put me off of a game. My motivation is suddenly gone. I play for the competitiveness aspect of gaming too which this feature takes away. How do I compare how well I'm doing with someone else when they could well be lying to me about using this feature.

"Cheat codes have ruined video games for everyone. Gamefaqs have destroyed the ability of kids to think on their own. No more can you call yourself a gamer since cheats take all that is good in a game and throw it in the toilet."

Kids nowadays are nothing more than idiots because of the very existence of Walkthroughs. I will never, ever buy another video game because of the ability of using a cheat code to ruin what was once so perfect and pure. The whole video game industry is nothing more than a cheap, good for nothing....

Oh wait a minute, you mean I don't have to use a cheat to play a game? Are you trying to tell me that if I want I can actually play a game without reading a faq? Is it possible that I can actually purchase a new game from Nintendo that has this demo built into it, and actually decide NOT to use it?

Wow, what a concept. I have the choice of using this feature or not."

Cheat codes, GameFAQ's and even YouTube do not play the game for you. They tell you what to do. It's a big difference, you still need to complete X part of a game yourself. Cheat codes I admit do take the experience away and I would not recommend them but they don't necessarily play the game for you. GameFAQ's is like asking a friend what to do next, but they don't do it for you. The same goes for YouTube as it does GameFAQs, it doesn't play the game for you. This does.

"I would be willing to bet some good money that every single person who has commented on this thread about how bad this is, and how this feature is going to ruin games, or is going to dumbify the next generation of kids has at one time or another used a cheat code, or referred to a walkthrough to help with a game. Well guess what - you're just as bad as a kid using this feature to help him pass a hard point in his game. No difference at all."

I can see the point you are trying to make, but I still disagree. With a level select you can choose what level to do and go back and beat the other levels at any time. Using this feature, you will be watching the game play itself and I think that you would be less likely to play that level again.

"You can give any excuse you want to try and justify the difference between a cheat code / faq and this optional demo, but you can't hide from the fact that they are the same thing."

I think I just did.

"I've read quite a few interesting opinions as to why many posters on this board don't like Nintendo, this thread contains some of the funniest reasons yet. If you don't like Nintendo, fine, just say so, but save yourself the embarrassment of looking like an idiot by saying that Nintendo is destroying gaming, or making kids dumber because of an OPTIONAL help feature."

I like Nintendo, no I love Nintendo. Nintendo are not destroying gaming and despite what I've said in previous comments this feature will not destroy gaming either. This will likely be a success. But the effect it will have upon me and perhaps other people like me too is that we will never be motivated to play Nintendo's games again. Being a completionist I particularly hate this feature. The satisfaction of completing a game for me at least will be gone for good.

@Mr Khan

Perhaps I do, but it's better than not caring about the future of gaming at all.

Well, I'm completely serious and so you can think what you want. Despite the fact that you seem to be trolling.

"Everyone is concerned about whether or not this is an acceptable thing to put in a game. Of course it's acceptable."

I completely disagree. If every game ever made had this feature, I would become a retro gamer and never play new games again.

"This is no different than having difficulty settings, or, in old NES-era games, the option to start with more lives or continues."

Oh, it is very different. With difficulty settings you are still making your way through a game and progressing whilst playing the game. With this, you are not playing the game, you are watching it.

"It is an OPTION. Some people like to play games with their kids, or let their kids play games, and I, personally, welcome the ability to not have to play all the hard levels for my kid."

Well, in that case since a good game progresses in difficulty your kid may as well just watch the game from the point they get stuck to the end.

"Kids just want to keep playing. I was the same way as a child. Kids get frustrated more easily than adults, and some people simply don't like frustration."

That's true, but they won't be playing for very long if they are watching now will they?

"You can still have an enjoyable gaming experience if you are allowed to skip parts that are frustrating you. In fact, this does nothing different than warp zones did in the NES SMB's.It doesn't just let you skip an entire level if you want, but a certain section of a level."

No, sorry I personally can't. I'm not going to lie, I have used warp zones, passwords and level selects before but I feel guilt upon using them. It's like cheating your way through a game if you haven't completed it before.

"I think its a good idea, you don't have to use it if you don't want to,"

But it will question the integrity of you doing it. Anyone could effectively lie about completing a game properly. It's like saying that people who use gamesaves to up their gamerscore and unlock achievements are ok.

"but it will keep my kid from making me beat a game section I don't want to play."

Until they are have watched the entire game because difficulty should be progressive. Therefore they shouldn't theoretically be able to beat the later parts either.

"I don't see why so many of you feel threatened by this. It's just an option to help more people play games."

No, it is not. It is an option to help people waste their money by watching the game and therefore not playing it at all. Not only that but if they can't complete an early part of a game then what makes them think they can do the later parts? The difficulty of a game isn't balanced if you use this feature and are able to continue with no problem later in the game.

"How many times have you tried to help a non-gamer play a game, and they get to a point where they can't figure it out and give up in frustration?"

Non-gamers can be introduced to games, but not this way. As far as I am concerned anyone who uses this feature IS a non-gamer and will remain a non-gamer. For example, in any older games you could input a level select code, it would be considered cheating to just start from a level you haven't completed. Imagine starting from the final level in Ghouls 'n' Ghosts, you would get much more frustrated at the end than the beginning.

"Come on. It's not like this is going to negate your 100,000+ gamerscore or whatever else you're so quick to defend."

The are reasons that what you say here is true. My 56K gamerscore will not be negated, but this is because I do not play Xbox 360 games for my Wii. If the Wii were to have an achievement system and this feature Nintendo is planning did not disable achievements then if would indeed effectively negate the point of the achievement system.

"It's just an effort to bring more people into the fold, and isn't that something to be happy about?"

I'm very happy with what Nintendo has done and is continuing to do. Gaming is becoming more and more accepted. Nintendo are not forgetting the hardcore and personally I never thought that they did. But what they are forgetting is that games are about gameplay and not cheating your way though with a feature such as this.

If Nintendo does this, then I will NEVER play this game and boycott any future game with this feature. A game that play's itself, even if it is an option is not a game at all. I do not buy a game so that I can watch it played from beginning to end with no purpose, if I did want that I would watch a film. In fact, if this feature is indeed correct meaning that the games do in fact play themselves (not just a video showing you what to do) and Nintendo put's this in more than five of their games then I will NEVER buy a single product affiliated with them again. I understand they want a new market, I understand they are still trying to appeal to the hardcore. But if they do this then gaming using a Nintendo console will never be the same again and I will absolutely not recommend their systems to anyone. In fact I will insult them for every single chance I get. I will NOT accept this.

"such negligence from cashiers would merely be disappointing. In the UK, it's illegal."

Illegal for BBFC rated games, but not PEGI. I know it's BBFC rated games you're talking about here but just thought I'd point that out.

@Marty
I know that, but whether or not they join the website their gamertag still seems to be in the database.