what in the hell do "non-adult" games vs. "adult" games (by whatever definition it is... which is completely subjective) have to do with chess OR checkers? it's apples and oranges!
if you are worried about the presentation of the game is not adult for you, you have certainly not allowed youself a full range of interactive entertainment.
halo is good KOTOR is good Mario 64 is good Zelda in it's MANY forms are good Guitar Hero is good Monkey ball is good TETRIS is good Half-Life 2 is good DDR is good Fallout is good
however i can think of just as many games that are horrid, regalrdless of the "adult" / "non-adult" peudo-non-existent-genre you propose (unless you mean games that are rated T and above - and that's just a rating)
it's all good... a game is good based on it's entertainment value, not if it "adult" enough or not. in fact, there are a whole class of games where the concept of "adult" or "non-adult" does not apply.
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"jack" is, IMNHO, short-sighted and represents a short list of gamers. I know a couple people just like him (as far as gaming goes) and I know numerous more people that like good digital entertainment, regarldess of its form.
A deathmatch? A little SSBM? Or maybe a multiplayer game of DEFCON? A good RPG? Yeah I like it all... as long as it is good. The Wii will deliver. So will the XBox360. In time - if the software and supply meets demand before developers abandon the system - the PS3 will hold it's own, even if it is first in sales or not.
Oh yeah, I'm getting a Wii... XBox360 :) The PS3 is just way too expensive for a single purchase right now (and I have no use for BluRay and most of the reviews, while not bad, are a bit lack-luster)
For those complaining about the high price tag of the Wii and only getting a marginally better power:
Remember, IBM is providing a new CPU for the system (the original was based on the G3, though not directly a G3 processor). The new one is rumored to be closer to a G5 in power. ATI has created a new graphics processor to go into the system. For what I have read, both are upgrades of the GC versions with new features for the Wii to provide more power graphics.
Didn't like the graphics at E3. Remember, those were BETA and ALPHA versions of the software AND hardware. 360 demos are easier to look "pretty" becuase, while the software maybe beta or alpha, the hardware is in full-production mode. PS3 showing were scant at E3, since they are pushing a $500-$600 console already they are already more powerful then the Wii in beta/alpha form (and probably close to 360, being a full-production mode cosole now).
What do you get for $250? I gather you get the console (yes it WILL be more powerful, just not 360 or PS3 more-powerful), a flash memory drive, a Wii controller AND nunchuck (seeing how many games are dependent on the nunchuck), Wi-Fi capabilities (or wired network capabilities via USB), and 512MB flash memory for saved games (expandable via more SD memory AND/OR - only rumored - an external USB drive of your choice), backwards compatibility for GC games and controllers, the Opera web-browser (not determined how it will be packaged or delivered with Wii, but Opera confirmed that the browser for Wii will be offered at no extra charge), and the Virtual Console System (as you all know to buy and download NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and Tubro-Grafix 16 games and play them on the Wii).
Is $250 much? Maybe streching it a wee bit. But for those "pinchin pennies" at X-Mas, the Wii will still be a very tempting offer for many regardless of the price point at or below $250.
Another thing, as some of you may realize, that if you look at Nintendo last console release prices (US prices in whole dollars, and dates):
NES: 1985 - $199 SNES: 1991 - $199 N64: 1997 - $199 GC: 2001 - $199 Wii: 2006 - ? (geez, wonder would would MORE THAN LIKELY GO HERE????)
Wii launch wrap-up
Nov 19th 2006 9:53PM (Engadget)if you are worried about the presentation of the game is not adult for you, you have certainly not allowed youself a full range of interactive entertainment.
halo is good
KOTOR is good
Mario 64 is good
Zelda in it's MANY forms are good
Guitar Hero is good
Monkey ball is good
TETRIS is good
Half-Life 2 is good
DDR is good
Fallout is good
however i can think of just as many games that are horrid, regalrdless of the "adult" / "non-adult" peudo-non-existent-genre you propose (unless you mean games that are rated T and above - and that's just a rating)
it's all good... a game is good based on it's entertainment value, not if it "adult" enough or not. in fact, there are a whole class of games where the concept of "adult" or "non-adult" does not apply.
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"jack" is, IMNHO, short-sighted and represents a short list of gamers. I know a couple people just like him (as far as gaming goes) and I know numerous more people that like good digital entertainment, regarldess of its form.
A deathmatch? A little SSBM? Or maybe a multiplayer game of DEFCON? A good RPG? Yeah I like it all... as long as it is good. The Wii will deliver. So will the XBox360. In time - if the software and supply meets demand before developers abandon the system - the PS3 will hold it's own, even if it is first in sales or not.
Oh yeah, I'm getting a Wii... XBox360 :) The PS3 is just way too expensive for a single purchase right now (and I have no use for BluRay and most of the reviews, while not bad, are a bit lack-luster)
Wii won't be more than $250 says Nintendo
May 25th 2006 10:32AM (Joystiq)Remember, IBM is providing a new CPU for the system (the original was based on the G3, though not directly a G3 processor). The new one is rumored to be closer to a G5 in power. ATI has created a new graphics processor to go into the system. For what I have read, both are upgrades of the GC versions with new features for the Wii to provide more power graphics.
Didn't like the graphics at E3. Remember, those were BETA and ALPHA versions of the software AND hardware. 360 demos are easier to look "pretty" becuase, while the software maybe beta or alpha, the hardware is in full-production mode. PS3 showing were scant at E3, since they are pushing a $500-$600 console already they are already more powerful then the Wii in beta/alpha form (and probably close to 360, being a full-production mode cosole now).
What do you get for $250? I gather you get the console (yes it WILL be more powerful, just not 360 or PS3 more-powerful), a flash memory drive, a Wii controller AND nunchuck (seeing how many games are dependent on the nunchuck), Wi-Fi capabilities (or wired network capabilities via USB), and 512MB flash memory for saved games (expandable via more SD memory AND/OR - only rumored - an external USB drive of your choice), backwards compatibility for GC games and controllers, the Opera web-browser (not determined how it will be packaged or delivered with Wii, but Opera confirmed that the browser for Wii will be offered at no extra charge), and the Virtual Console System (as you all know to buy and download NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and Tubro-Grafix 16 games and play them on the Wii).
Is $250 much? Maybe streching it a wee bit. But for those "pinchin pennies" at X-Mas, the Wii will still be a very tempting offer for many regardless of the price point at or below $250.
Another thing, as some of you may realize, that if you look at Nintendo last console release prices (US prices in whole dollars, and dates):
NES: 1985 - $199
SNES: 1991 - $199
N64: 1997 - $199
GC: 2001 - $199
Wii: 2006 - ? (geez, wonder would would MORE THAN LIKELY GO HERE????)