Rich

If you do this - EVERY artist will say the same thing.... because they want to force you to buy their crap along with their 2 good songs. This is bad precedent - and I'm glad Apple isn't conceding to these demands. The whole concept of the 12-song album was a horrible invention that has screwed customers over for the past 25 years. Thank the Beatles - everything was sold 1-2 songs per unit prior to the Beatles and some of the prog-rock folks.

Agreed.... would love to see a "How to setup the tool chain" article!!!

I still can't believe people are still justifying this as not a tragic continuation of Apple deemphasizing the "Computers" side of the business. MacWorld should have been renamed "iPhoneWorld". Computers removed from the name. Delaying an OS because your 20K employee company is focusing their efforts on a cellphone.

I love my Mac. I wouldn't want to use anything else. I could care less about the delay. It's the reasoning that's damning. If Dvorak came out with an article tomorrow about how the iPhone (likely an excellent potential product in a completely political / bureacratic / red-tape laden industry) could be the end of Apple, I couldn't dismiss it completely (even though he is a mental pygmy).

How can I justify to my organization to buy 100 Xserves when the company is more concerned about a freaking phone than the core operating system? Looks like more Dell 1950's. At least they understand their core business and priorities.

Unfreaking believable. First off, to stave off the incessant fanboys... I'm a huge Mac fan...

BUT...

How can you justify the delay of an operating system on a freaking phone? Where are the priorities? How do I justify buying 100 Xserves when the OS that we've been waiting for was delayed by a freaking phone?

I would have been fine if they just came out said it was taking longer than they thought it would be... but to say that a phone is draining resources from completing an OS?

This is a company with 17,787 full-time employees. How anyone can flippantly justify this as being a good thing is mind-boggling.

Again, I don't mind the delay. I mind the REASONING for said delay. It appears that Steve is obsessed with the iPhone to the detriment of ALL else. I became nervous after MacWorld. Now I'm convinced. This puts a large question mark on Apple's priorities and commitments to anything outside of phones and mp3 players.

They were really right when they removed "Computer" from the name of the company.

Apple Faithful - 1.

I've had no problem with my work's Cisco VPN (even uses RSA SecurID / radius) over Verizon or Sprint EVDO - although I use VPN Tracker - not the abysmal Cisco client.

Yeah... all you folks quoting OEM prices... yeah - that's about as useful as quoting upgrade prices... OEM prices are only good with the HD purchase, etc. Buying OEM for a Bootcamp upgrade is about as legal as buying nothing... move along...

Obviously Joystiq editors either:

1. Can't do math

OR

2. Are recommending that people pirate software...

Since running Windows XP on a Mac costs over $200 (purchase Win XP Home) -- and using any of those OEM or upgrade XP CDs is verboten.

So, save $10, but pay $200, burn up a lot of disk space, waste a lot of time dual-booting, and the headache of installing another OS.

Don't get me wrong, Bootcamp is cool, but I can't imagine how a Mac Only customer would consider Windows on their Mac as an alternative to a native game (even if it is a tad slower) reasonable -- actually quite bazaar. Anyone who already has a Windows box has already bought the game for Windows, already played it for 7 months and moved on.

To be honest, I wish Apple *would* offer a Premium version of their AppleCare which covered all issues -- no questions asked -- like what is offered by the other major companies (aka Dell). It's basically an insurance program / support contract. I would pay for it.

This appears to just be a rebadged Gefen. Or, they are both rebadging someone elses OEM device. Either way, Gefen's version of this has been available for quite a while...

#4 --- that's what I said...

#7 --- Naming confusion was me trying to explain why the OP could have made the erroneous assumption that they were cross-compatible.