mjk23

In short, if pes had the licences and in game features fifa had, and the game play was tougher then it would make it a more enjoyable game.

For me PES needs;
1. More clubs/international teams
2. Licencing
3. Tougher gameplay
4. Realism on Masters League, when losing the sack should be coming, unsettled players, career threatening injuries, dealing with chairman/media etc.
5. Better in game music.

For me graphics is secondary, and to be fair to PES the players they have look more realistic for me than FIFA, Rooney on FIFA looks like Father Christmas! mind you!....

Who cares if the grass looks a bit weird or Jon Champion and Mark Lawrenson are reading the same lines as Peter Brackley and Trevor Brooking did on PES 2; lets just hope PES 2009 is a better in game experience, which learns from FIFA, AND tries to create new elements as well.