Arbitarge

@ 37 - Killbloggers

"I love it how retarted joystiq writers always make a big deal about "shipped" and "sold". That just shows what a bunch of ignorant amatures they are.

Now if you read REAL journalists who actually know what they are talking about, then they will point out that most stores in Japan order shippments weekly. If products does not sell, then they do not order. In Japan PSP sells about 40000 unit weekly. This means that the difference between "sold" and "shipped" in Japan is at MOST 40000 unit at any moment or less.

Now Japan is the biggest game market so assuming US and Europe doing about the same, then at any point of time the difference between shipped and sold is no more then 120 000 unit worldwide. That is how much it sold in a week worldwide"

i love it how ignorant idiots like you insult other people when you don't know jack yourself.

try studying a bit of commerce or alternatively, find out what the technique nicknamed "stuffing the channels" means in terms of shipping.

people make a distinction between shipped and sold for a reason... and no... its not some massive world wide consiparcy against you and all sony fanboys.

Actually, you know what? i feel nice today, so i'm going to tell you exactly where you went wrong.

Your assumption that japanese sellers would not order if the psp does not sell is correct, as anybody with a brain who runs a business would follow such action.

however... that's business at its simplist form. You need to understand that with a corporation as big as Sony, they have some pretty nasty influence. Influence, like... lets say... making large distributors ship in more stock then they need..... *hint *hint

so potentially, that 40000 figure you have could be 3 times as much then you assume, over several periods of accumlated unsold stock, yet you would never know because you don't have "sold" figures.

where would this influence come from? simply put, sony's ability to not supply at all, or to supple less then they need do to "shortages", or maybe, if they're nice... to actually give them a discount on purchase... or maybe even pay their warehouse overheads.

why would sony do this? to fool idiots like you. Not really actually, they won't really care about you. But they do care about shareholders and profit figures.... by shipping more then distributors need, Sony can artificially inflate their profits and please shareholders.... just one of the many techniques to manage profits in the corporate world. (actually, its more complex then that... but i can't be bothered going in depth about the surrounding decision to overship...)

so... are we clear on the "shipped" and "sold" difference here?

"And I am being very conservative here. So there is almosty now difference, not mentioning a fact that when Nintendo says sold they actually mean shipped, becasue all the data about actual sales is not presize enough.

So what a big deal joystiq? Can not stand the fact that PSP DOES sell well inspite of all your Sony hatered? Get real and cut the crap."

oh... so the figures nintendo gives out are false?

hey. guess what? 70% of statistics are made up on the spot.... no really.

in all seriousness.... i really would have to have you as my stockportfolio manager..... actually... just stay away from commerce altogether.

If nintendo made a press conference saying that they have sold that much. Assume it is true. otherwise the share markets would absolutely rape them. painfully.

which again brings us to the distinction of "shipped" and "sold"

accuracy is very important to the sharemarket, as the people who play it are not very nice people. they like to punish those who lie.

So... if sony say they "shipped" 20million... they aren't telling fibs. they most probably have shipped that much... but have they actually sold that much?

but if they actually said they "sold" 20 million but have actually really only "shipped" 20 million and instead sold like 15million.... oh... i reckon their share price would drop pretty fast.

and yes... these figures can be checked to a certain amount of accuracy outside of company publications, simply put. if you're wondering how the sharemarket would know.

@ embassy

i wasn't talking about typos. we all make typing mistakes.

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lol @ " increasing lack of ethics and morals people like you have in the world today" ..i dont think the KKK had many ethics after hanging my grandfathers and raping my grandmothers and im sure the conquistidors "respected the property " of the natives after pillaging and slaughtering them..but your right...screwing with a toy in a dept. store sure makes those other events seem like childs play..things are sOO much worse (ethically speaking of course) than they were back then...lol..ok."

do you even read the stuff you type?

i don't even know where to begin in my response to how stupid that comment is. man....

your historical comparisons are amazing..... to say the least.... and to that end, i still don't see what point apart your were trying to make. That the KKK were more lacking in ethics? that the spanish were wrong in invading the incas? yea... we all know about that.... but how does that apply to our argument?

maybe.... if you learned to read properly, you would've noticed that i wasn't even directly comparing today's society with historical events so far back in time. Hell, i wasn't even comparing with anything past a couple of decades.

what i'm refering to is the apathy of people in regards to things that are clearly wrong.

You are a prime example.

People destorying(or in this case, attempting to destory) private property?

your response: "nothing wrong with it.... there are many worse things in the world.... it is all justified"

tell me.... what would be your response to kids going out at night and smashing windows and keying cars on the street just for the hell of it?

can you still respond with the comment "its just 2 kids screwing around"?

@ 33 - embassy

"get outta here with that 5 yr old nick Jr mentality...this is the real world..people instinctly do stupid stuff FAR worse than thumb humping a friggin toy in a dept store.relax."

real world? hah. this is the gist of the problem and this is what zodzilla is having a problem with. Idiot like you populating the real world. Do you even know what the "real world" is like? or are you just using it in an attempt to gain leverage over zodzilla?

the issue he is raising is the increasing lack of ethics and morals people like you have in the world today, where not even the property of others is respected anymore. Walmart maybe evil, but that doesn't in anyway allow you to go destory their property.

"People instinctively do more far worse and more stupid stuff then breaking a DS?" that is true, but again, that is the issue here isn't it? idiots like you who condone such activites and respond only to base instincts are no better then the primal barbarians from the neanderthal ages.

go get some education and learn to type before sputtering such filth.