You forgot one important point, Eliot; we already have half of this wallet as an existing feature. The other half, now fully developed, is being sold to us.
Barter tokens have been an alarming problem since Mirkwood, which introduced the skirmishing system and the tons of barter tokens associated with it. On top of that, Turbine was already well into the stages of operating on the association of the rep barter system also coming in its token variations (Lothlorien leaves). Mirkwood tacked on some more (MIrkwood branches). And don't forget the instance barter tokens as well (Moria and Mirkwood armor tokens).
People were, to say the least, irked by the situation. When Enedwaith rolled around and introduced yet another slew of tokens, the complaints grew louder. Fix this problem you are creating, the community said. Turbine bowed and complied. Their first implementation to this promise that they would fix what they were breaking came with the consolidated wallet we have now in live. Our skirmish tokens were thrown into this wallet and removed from our bags.
"I believe the answer you are looking for is, they are not added... YET. This is the first pass at the barter wallet, other items will be added to it in the future. I don't know what items will be added when, however. " - Sapience, Oct 2010
What Sapience really meant by, "in the future" was, "at a later time in which we will be able to sell it to you".
Cut the pizza whichever way you want, it's still going to taste the same in the end. Turbine has reached the point where they are now selling fixes to the problems they caused--a problem that they vowed to the community that they would eventually solve. And they have. You just need to fork over $10 to fix the problem.
Downvote me some more if it makes you feel better. I really hope you didn't just proclaim two series that had a ten-year production gap as highlights for exclusivity for PC gaming though. The Sims, on the other hand, has been on the consoles for eight years now. And the last PC-exclusive Bioware title was Neverwinter Nights. So, again, try harder next time?
By the way, Crytek is another good example. The demo for Crysis 2? It's console-exclusive. But silly me, that just strengthened my argument, so be sure to downvote this.
I'm not sure why you're crying. I can get you a tissue if you'd like.
Anyway, Bioware has proven loyal to their PC fanbase so far, but my comment came from other companies like Lionhead, Bethesda, Rockstar, and Bungie taking massive dumps on PC gamers. So nice sidestep? Again, I'd offer you a tissue if you need one.
"Maybe the goal is to release them all simultaneously, because all three platforms are important to us."
This coming from a company whose paychecks were paid by PC gamers for nine years before they got involved with consoles.
There are a lot of multi-platform games coming out/have been out that are getting exclusive console releases/content, and yet here's talk of PC gamers finally getting a taste of that exclusivity (albeit underhandedly) and all of the sudden it's, "Oh no, we must treat our console gamers fairly!"
@Foetoid Want to guess how many missions Brood War has? Twenty-nine. Want to guess how much the expansion was retail? I'll give you a hint: it wasn't $60.
People often forget that they are being charged more for the same amount of content these days.
It's good to see Schaefer, Baldree, and the other Flagship refugees are doing good for themselves at Runic. I had my doubts at first but they proved true that with the right people in management they could accomplish the Blizzard formula. Really glad to see the work on Mythos did not go to waste.
No, no, NO. Why are they taking us back to what was utterly the most boring four hours of the first game? Are they really dry on ideas to make us go back into the color palette of brown caves?
Lifetimer of LotRo, been playing since beta, and a resident of Landroval.
Just wanted to say the CS response is exactly what you found (I am actually surprised a CM actually restored your item). It's not something that is limited to one server or another--all CMs on all servers are equally as useless. Hundreds of horror stories have been heard about the CMs, and I've had my share. We were running one of the end-game instances of the time, two hours in, and enemies in a fight went into a permanent anti-exploit mode after a raid member got disconnected (he was holding aggro). After waiting about ten minutes, hoping to see if that would solve the problem, we just decided to write a ticket instead. Four of us did so, and four of us got the same reply--"Sorry, we can't do that."
People who have accidentally bought a pony instead of a horse, people who have accidentally destroyed an item (raid gear), etc. The universal answer has always been, "Sorry, we can't do that." I had an old friend who came back to the game and found all of her characters deleted. She thought she had logged into the wrong server at first but nope, all deleted (her account info was shared with no one). She filed a ticket, guess what the response was: "Sorry, we can't do that." She never returned to the game after that.
It's so bad that the CMs are a running joke in the community, much akin to saying something like, "What CAN they do?" And so far the only thing they do is take foul language very seriously (we have seen them pop their heads in GLFF from time to time) and hand out temporary bans for exploits within the game. And really that is all they do.
I'm genuinely surprised your item was restored, however. Are you sure they didn't know who you were and were just aiming for brownie points? I've had friends quit this game over some rare rollbacks that they have lost raid gear in and the CMs all drone on with the exact same answer: "Sorry, we can't do that." And, of course, because of the genius of Turbine's forum's rules, it's against the rules to even talk about how shoddy the CS is. See no evil, hear no evil I guess.
Lord of the Rings Online lets you add a game wallet by lightening your real wallet
Mar 4th 2012 5:46AM (Massively)Barter tokens have been an alarming problem since Mirkwood, which introduced the skirmishing system and the tons of barter tokens associated with it. On top of that, Turbine was already well into the stages of operating on the association of the rep barter system also coming in its token variations (Lothlorien leaves). Mirkwood tacked on some more (MIrkwood branches). And don't forget the instance barter tokens as well (Moria and Mirkwood armor tokens).
People were, to say the least, irked by the situation. When Enedwaith rolled around and introduced yet another slew of tokens, the complaints grew louder. Fix this problem you are creating, the community said. Turbine bowed and complied. Their first implementation to this promise that they would fix what they were breaking came with the consolidated wallet we have now in live. Our skirmish tokens were thrown into this wallet and removed from our bags.
http://lotro.mmorsel.com/2010/10/introducing-barter-wallet.html
What about the rest of the tokens, the community shot back.
http://web.archive.org/web/20101112100617/http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?&postid=5051141
"I believe the answer you are looking for is, they are not added... YET. This is the first pass at the barter wallet, other items will be added to it in the future. I don't know what items will be added when, however. " - Sapience, Oct 2010
What Sapience really meant by, "in the future" was, "at a later time in which we will be able to sell it to you".
Cut the pizza whichever way you want, it's still going to taste the same in the end. Turbine has reached the point where they are now selling fixes to the problems they caused--a problem that they vowed to the community that they would eventually solve. And they have. You just need to fork over $10 to fix the problem.
Dragon Age 2 demo no longer available early to GameStop employees
Feb 10th 2011 10:12PM (Joystiq)Downvote me some more if it makes you feel better. I really hope you didn't just proclaim two series that had a ten-year production gap as highlights for exclusivity for PC gaming though. The Sims, on the other hand, has been on the consoles for eight years now. And the last PC-exclusive Bioware title was Neverwinter Nights. So, again, try harder next time?
By the way, Crytek is another good example. The demo for Crysis 2? It's console-exclusive. But silly me, that just strengthened my argument, so be sure to downvote this.
Dragon Age 2 demo no longer available early to GameStop employees
Feb 10th 2011 7:57PM (Joystiq)I'm not sure why you're crying. I can get you a tissue if you'd like.
Anyway, Bioware has proven loyal to their PC fanbase so far, but my comment came from other companies like Lionhead, Bethesda, Rockstar, and Bungie taking massive dumps on PC gamers. So nice sidestep? Again, I'd offer you a tissue if you need one.
Lionhead survey seeks feedback on Fable franchise
Feb 10th 2011 6:27PM (Joystiq)I care about the Fable series as much as I care about fiscal decentralization in the 1800s.
Dragon Age 2 demo no longer available early to GameStop employees
Feb 10th 2011 6:23PM (Joystiq)This coming from a company whose paychecks were paid by PC gamers for nine years before they got involved with consoles.
There are a lot of multi-platform games coming out/have been out that are getting exclusive console releases/content, and yet here's talk of PC gamers finally getting a taste of that exclusivity (albeit underhandedly) and all of the sudden it's, "Oh no, we must treat our console gamers fairly!"
Just another shot at PC gamers.
Activision: At least two Blizzard titles coming in 2012, if none released this year
Feb 9th 2011 8:21PM (Joystiq)People often forget that they are being charged more for the same amount of content these days.
Activision to reduce headcount by around 500
Feb 9th 2011 8:16PM (Joystiq)Torchlight 2 'probably' delayed to July, Runic says
Feb 9th 2011 8:06PM (Joystiq)Dragon Age 2 Achievements posted
Feb 9th 2011 5:50AM (Joystiq)No, no, NO. Why are they taking us back to what was utterly the most boring four hours of the first game? Are they really dry on ideas to make us go back into the color palette of brown caves?
Massively's Community Detective, Issue #6: Lord of the Rings Online
Aug 24th 2010 8:12PM (Massively)Just wanted to say the CS response is exactly what you found (I am actually surprised a CM actually restored your item). It's not something that is limited to one server or another--all CMs on all servers are equally as useless. Hundreds of horror stories have been heard about the CMs, and I've had my share. We were running one of the end-game instances of the time, two hours in, and enemies in a fight went into a permanent anti-exploit mode after a raid member got disconnected (he was holding aggro). After waiting about ten minutes, hoping to see if that would solve the problem, we just decided to write a ticket instead. Four of us did so, and four of us got the same reply--"Sorry, we can't do that."
People who have accidentally bought a pony instead of a horse, people who have accidentally destroyed an item (raid gear), etc. The universal answer has always been, "Sorry, we can't do that." I had an old friend who came back to the game and found all of her characters deleted. She thought she had logged into the wrong server at first but nope, all deleted (her account info was shared with no one). She filed a ticket, guess what the response was: "Sorry, we can't do that." She never returned to the game after that.
It's so bad that the CMs are a running joke in the community, much akin to saying something like, "What CAN they do?" And so far the only thing they do is take foul language very seriously (we have seen them pop their heads in GLFF from time to time) and hand out temporary bans for exploits within the game. And really that is all they do.
I'm genuinely surprised your item was restored, however. Are you sure they didn't know who you were and were just aiming for brownie points? I've had friends quit this game over some rare rollbacks that they have lost raid gear in and the CMs all drone on with the exact same answer: "Sorry, we can't do that." And, of course, because of the genius of Turbine's forum's rules, it's against the rules to even talk about how shoddy the CS is. See no evil, hear no evil I guess.