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no light gun game will ever surpass elemental gearbolt. I keep a PS1, guncon, and CRT around specifically to play that game.

Guess tonight's going to be all about retrogaming with weird controllers. earlier today I stumbled across some elemental gearbolt info, so i'll be busting out the old CRT, PS1, and Guncon combo for some light gun action. After reading this, i think i'll follow that up with some dreamcast/sega bass fishing/fishing controller weirdness . . . .

no one has said that sony is going to replace discs that consumers have already bought. that post on AVS is not official. I mean, think about it- it's not like the original disc was defective in any way- it was just a sucky transfer and/or encoding job.
i'd really be surprised if sony does do free replacements. They should, but i doubt it.

"whether you need it or not . . . etc,etc"
yr killin' me, Ben!!! :) :)
we can at least agree that having the option to decode in the receiver is no bad thing.
These look like nice offerings from pioneer.

sending pcm doesn't add another d>a conversion. PCM is still digital, and is bit-for-bit identical to the original TrueHD or DTS MA bitstream, so it's not the same type of situation as it was with standard definition dvd players.
plus, thanks to advanced content, sending a bitstream DOES introduce an extra encode/de-encode step, since you'll be decoding the bitstream in the player, mixing in the extra sounds, then re-encoding to TrueHD or DTS MA bitstream to send to the player. in real time. not good.
Whether you care about those sounds or not is irrelevant. If the disc's been encoded using that method, you're not getting an untouched bitstream out of the player, full stop.

also, PCM can have all the timing adjustments applied to it in the receiver just like the TrueHD bitstream can.

Ben, I understand that some people are still thinking in regular DVD terms- i.e. sending a bitstream to the receiver is the best way to handle surround tracks on disc. the thing is, that's not true anymore with the HD formats, especially HDDVD, since you've got the whole advanced content authoring method to contend with. Sending PCM is just as good as a bitstream with the lossless formats, so why would you have the burning desire to send a bitstream to the receiver in the first place? It just seems like the posts this week have all implied in various ways that sending a bitstream is preferable to sending PCM, and it isn't.

what Ben and Aaron said. engadget needs to get their head around this. this is the third post this week (!) that displays a lack of understanding of this issue.

oops, part of that got cut off. Last sentence in the first paragraph should read:
There should be no difference in the audio produced from a TrueHD bitstream decoded in the receiver and a TrueHD bitstream decoded in the player and sent to the receiver as PCM.

close but not quite right, Dash. ATRAC is a lossy compression scheme, so it's actually not similar to Dolby TrueHD at all. TrueHD is lossless- every bit of audio in the original recording is preserved and reproduced in the TrueHD track. When the PS3 takes the TrueHD track and decodes it to PCM, it's still lossless, none of the data in the TrueHD track is thrown out, so there's really no problem there. The EngadgetHD writer tried to imply that that is a problem, but he's wrong. There is no difference in the audio produced from a TrueHD bitstream decoded in the receiver and a PCM
The only real story here is that the PS3 can not do anything at all with DTS HD MA tracks. can't pass 'em on as a bitstream, or decode 'em to PCM. That IS a problem, and sony needs to add that functionality through a firmware update. That's it. End of story.

yeah, DVDFile.com reported that Fox pulled their titles because of the AACS breach, but they didn't have any proof of it, either, just speculation due to the timing coincidence.