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"How many people watch DVDs on their PS2s? No one I know."

Are all your friends geeks or what? A lot of people bought PS2 simply because it was a cheap DVD player that played games. It doesn't matter if they wanted DVD or not, it is something called compulsive consumerism. And I do know a lot of people that play or played DVDs on their PS2. I used to do it... when I didn't have a DVD player in nearly every room inside my home. Now I don't need to do it, although I could.


"The quality was atrocious compared to my first generation (first year of DVD launch) $400 Sony DVD player."

Atrocious? What's so crappy about it? You are not saying why, that's tosh. It does what it has to do, period. Besides, you are a "techno-geek", so it doesn't make sense to compare it with a top of the line DVD player.

"Do you really think the average person with no interest in gaming will use a joystiq to play Blu-Ray movies?"

Do you really think all consumers are rational? Do you not believe there are compulsive consumers? Then you mustn't have learned anything from the Xbox 360 launch. In fact, I should have saved my buck and not have bought a 360. And, by your logic, if the PS2 was "a crappy DVD player", then the 360 is a "crappy game player", since it doesn't have as many good features as "other" consoles. I'll choose the top of the line one, next.

"When they just upgraded to DVD in the last year or two? Nope...nope...nope..."

Come on, last year or two? DVD sales have been in decline lately. You are pretty much talking about the *last* adopters of DVD, likely the poorest of the bunch, which is not even the aim of Xbox 360, let alone PS3 and other Blu-ray players.

"I'm a techno-geek and I have no interest in Blu-Ray."

I don't know what kind of techno-geek are you, but I am a tech-geek, and I have more interest in Blu-ray than I do for HD-DVD. And I'm not talking about the first batch of movies, I'm talking about Java, 50 GB and H.264. When these technologies arrive for Blu-ray movies, they will blow HD-DVD out of the water.

If Blu-ray doesn't pick up on the movie front, I always need storage on my PC, and I'm rooting for the best on that. I'm in no way buying an HD-DVD player (not even the crippled one for my 360) because I dislike everything related to Toshiba since I bought my Toshiba Laptop. Besides, I doubt HD-DVD will ever pick up if they have it has to compete with PS3.

Would you people get bent already? Europe is not the most important market in the world (I'd be more worried about winning in Japan, fanboys). Besides, this was expected since E3 2005... by expectations, the only place where PS3 was delayed is Japan (OH NOES! 360 is going to win Japan! hahaha just kidding... obviously).

America was expecting PS3 near the end of the year, while Europe was expecting PS3 in 2007 (later on, came the announcement that basically meant "Europe won't be ignored this time!"; but you all know what happened now).

Lol @Mirage, PSP "see you later"? They have nearly half the market share. That's A LOT, considering Nintendo almost always had near 90% marketshare of the handheld market. And since DS and PSP haven't had much time in the market anyway, the FF7 planned for PSP could as well catapult the PSP to the top of the charts in the land of the rising sun. That's the only place where PSP is being "owned", but then again, it's simply second place. So if Second place with a 45% marketshare (if not more) is a bomb, then the first Xbox was a catastrophe, and the Gamecube was a Holocaust.

I remember that a lot of people in the film industry were forecasting "at least 30 million PS3s sold". If that's the reason they chose Blu-ray, then it is still almost guaranteed that the PS3 will sell, at least, 30 million.

Adam, this game meassures 22 Gigabytes. So, it is needed. If Xbox 360 can't do that, too bad for you.

Awesome, extra content... if games end up costing the same as the games for 360 (there's a chance), why would I want to keep my 360? After all, paying for Xbox LIVE, getting less content, me needing a Wireless Adaptor anyway because there's no chance I'm going to wire my entire home (and after all, wireless is the future), let alone not getting enough content and "free" technology would be more expensive to me just for getting an inferior product.

I think I might end up selling my 360 after playing Lost Odyssey (perhaps in 2008), and somehow recoup the costs of getting a PS3, or simply to buy more games for Wii and PS3.

"Regrettably (to those with keen eyes), the movies will be compressed in MPEG-4 format"

Did you know that MPEG-4 (probably H.264) is even better than VC-1, let alone MPEG-2? So I don't understand what is regretable there.

HDMI is NOT NECESSARY for 1080p gaming, and it is not necessary for movies right now (until PS4 comes out). The 100 extra bucks give you a relatively big HDD, plus a WiFi Adapter.

$100 per game? I can simply LOL at that. In Japan you might see a game reach 90 dollars (the equivalent), but probably in cases where demand is huge, in games such as Final Fantasy XIII. I don't think you'll find prices nearing 90 bucks in the states at least.

Anyway, why are there people bitching about how the HDD on the expensive version is 60 gigs? Did you know that you can add bigger PC hard drives to it? You can't do that on 360 without voiding your warranty, hacking the hard drive, and perhaps accidentally ruining it.

I wouldn't consider this a hit like Pac-Man and Street Fighter. If you asked anyone in the 80's what is PacMan, they would have known. If you asked anyone in the 90's what is Street Fighter, they would have known (and I find it odd that the writer says "since Pac-man", when Street Figher broke the arcade records set by Pac-Man). If you ask a random person on the street "What is WoW?", would they know? Most likely: Fuck no.

WoW is a PC game, and if it is not ported to consoles, they can kiss goodbye mainstream pop culture and keep being regarded as an underground hobby at best.

Regula Oblique:

That's because Joystiq needs hits - give em' a break, alright? I mean, they are a company, they need money, business, profit, mazari, gold, whatever. And journalists probably get a bonus for this kind of "news".

Anyway, this is a non-issue. IF anyone has 1080p capable TV, they have the buck to buy an extra HDMI cable. If someone is saving the 600 for a PS3 but doesn't have a 1080p capable TV, or even an HDTV, who fucking cares? I don't think anyone buys the 600 PS3 solely for HDMI. I want the 600 version for the 60 GB HDD and WiFi, the HDMI output is simply a good extra to have for the future. Why the future? HDMI is not even necessary right now for Blu-ray 1080p output, regardless of what the PS3 website says; the website says so to prevent Sony from being sued, but HDMI won't be required till PS3 and 360 are both in their late years (i.e. when 720 and PS4 come out). By then, both 720 and PS4 will have the ability to read both Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs (which might not be mandatory anyway).

Old news, but by the way, there is also an 8-layer 200 GB being developed anyway, which could potentially be read, since each layer holds 25 Gigs.

Imagine the best Final Fantasy compilation of games on a single disc, with high definition cut-scenes, and bonus content such as soundtracks?

NorCal05:

I already played the demo on my 360, but haven-t bought the game yet. I was thinking of getting it, but now that I think about it, since I-m getting a PS3 too, ill wait for the enhanced version to come out.