GlitchCog

Halo? The last enjoyable first person shooter was Doom.

I've played Wii Sports, Zelda, Trauma Center, Cooking Mama, and Monkey Ball.

Twilight Princess was a great game, but was still utter crap relative to Wind Waker. Wii Sports is the best so far, although that'll almost certainly change on the 9th.

This game only uses the nunchuck?
http://kotaku.com/gaming/koei/opoona-revealed-for-wii-244012.php

The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy

Probot,

Hype is dangerous? I'm fine. Maybe a little disappointed, but it's not a big deal. I'm just not buying virtual console games. You're trying to frame this issue like it's one of danger. It's not. It's just corporate lies. You really don't have to warn me about the scary hype trap you've invented. It's simply not scary. We're discussing your misjudgment on the source of these lies, not your misjudgment of how dangerous they are.

More Nintendo officials than just Jim Merrick said it'd be region free. That link might not have his actually quote, but that doesn't change the fact that he and others did say it.

The fact that Nintendo doesn't sell virtual console games, but points, is exactly what you said... a technical detail. But you raise this "technical detail" sarcastically as if to say it's a big deal to prop up your argument. It doesn't matter if you buy VC points to buy Game Rupees which you use to buy gold bars that then is used to buy video games. It still comes down to a certain amount of money per game regardless of any exchange rates they go through. Why would Harrison comment on the price of an as-of-yet-unknown intermediate currency that hadn't been mentioned yet? If he were talking about that, it'd just be another attempt to deceive, although I'd concede that it wouldn't be an all-out lie if that were the case. And the Miyamoto quote wasn't stretched at all. He said matter-of-factly that they were pushing this as a feature, not a cash cow. No stretch, even by your wild imagination where the existence of hype excuses companies from telling the truth.

And finally, even if the Virtual Console becomes what they promised, these are still valid points now. Here. In the real contemporary world. Which is the one I was, and I thought you were, discussing here. If you want to argue about some possible future where Nintendo just pushes their entire software library onto every game console and computer in the world, I'm afraid I'll have to concede that I don't have enough clairvoyance to debate you on it.

Off handed comments? These are direct quotes from guys who are paid to not lie like this to avoid pissing off fans like me. They are the ones who talk to video game press about what their products will be once they exist. They didn't do that. They talked about what they would be if they were good enough to warrant my business, and then they never delivered.

Probot,

Here's the actual statement from George Harrison:

"Well, we can use it in a variety of ways. We've used some of the older games already as little bonuses, either as bonus gifts or hidden in levels of games. Certainly for the first-party titles we'll be making some of those available. We haven't really talked about whether we would sell them. The third parties can make their own decision whether they want to sell them, or maybe they will add it on as sort of a free benefit when you buy a current version of the game."

"We haven't really talked about whether we would sell them." -as in should we sell them or give them away?

"The third parties can make their own decision whether they want to sell them, or maybe they will add it on as sort of a free benefit when you buy a current version of the game." -as in third parties, should they decide not to do the previously mentioned "sell them" would give them away as free benefits when buying other games. If third parties are doing it, why wouldn’t Nintendo?

Shigeru Miyamoto, E3 2005:
"We have not set a price or determined a list of software for the Nintendo Revolution download service. But, we're looking at this as a consumer service and not so much from the business end."
Here's Miyamoto saying they're not trying to make money off the virtual console.

I'm going to stop looking up these old quotes now. You research it yourself if you still don't get it. Nintendo, not fan hype, lead us to believe that the pricing would be free to cheap. Nintendo said it would be region free. Nintendo was the source of hype. Despite your fanboy-esque attempt to divert the blame away from them, the fact remains that they committed Sony-level deception about their virtual console.

Sorry, Probot. You couldn't be more wrong. Fanboy hype was not the source for my hope. Pay attention yourself.

These ideas came straight from Nintendo corporate mouthpieces:

http://www.n-philes.com/index.php?id=2005
Jim Merrick of NoE claimed that the Virtual Console would be region free

Note that this is not recent news. 2005. I specified that these claims were made before the launch in my post, but I guess you ignored that.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/06/03/nintendo-revolutions-classic-nintendo-games-will-be-free/
George Harrison of NOA claiming that Virtual Console games would be free, as reported on Joystiq, no less.

But you did a good job acting like you knew what you were talking about. Congratulations on that. And a big thanks for your condescending yet useless lesson on hype. It was sweet.

The virtual console is a terrible feature on an otherwise really incredible console. The worst part is all the official talk from Nintendo before the launch about how it might even be free. Or region free, as NOE claimed, so you could download foreign games. Or have more than 30 games at the start, a trivial request as all they really have to do it put the data up for downloading. Or have some demo trials for popular games. Or online capability for multiplayer games. Or let you upload save games to a server, or a flash stick. Etc...

As it exists now, it's terrible, especially relative to what they claimed. I'm not using it. I might buy one or two hard to find SNES games once there's more games available than I have toes, but I'm not going to support this crapfest of an online classic game service with anymore than that... especially considering how awesome they promised it would be.

Brain Training
Animal Crossing: Wild World
Elite Beat Agents
Mario Kart DS
New Super Mario Bros.
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
Super Mario 64

I had Metroid Prime: Hunters, but I gave it away because I couldn't see it well enough to enjoy it in anything brigher than dim light.

Huh? Miyamoto's wife wasn't a gamer? Isn't that a little like Mrs. Steve Irwin not liking crocodiles or something? What do they talk about all the time, the weather?