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You could throw snowballs in Bully. That was pretty funny. And there was the snowball fights in the Ski or Die game.

Why would anyone not want a PS3 because of marketing bluders? Do the games change because of marketing? Or maybe you are the kind of people who would buy a console because of marketing.

Personally im still interested in a PS3, Sonys blunders I could care less about. Im a gamer not a marketing victim.

Im looking forward to games like Heavenly Sword, The Naughty Dog Project, Mercenaries 2, Ratchet and Clank and MGS4. When these games are out im gonna buy a PS3. I dont care if the general perception is negative of the PS3 im a gamer not a polititian.

"Next year, can anyone really see any of these NOT be game of the year?

Bioshock
Mass Effect
Halo 3
Huxley"

Personally I think Heavenly Sword, The Naughty Dog Project and Mercenaries 2 look way better than any of those games. Sorry.

"Who came up with the idea first? Nintendo with VC? Or Sony with this?"

Who cares? For the record I think it was Sony who was first to the mill. But does it really matter? Is not the important thing that we can play older titles on handhelds and consoles? You people amaze me with your constant need to bicker and moan.

"This is the only thing cool I've seen come out from the Sony camp. I love those old PSOne games and would gladly play them. But is it worth $600 dollars?"

This again pisses me off. This is the only cool thing thats on the PS3? What about the damn games? Mercenaries 2, Heavenly Sword or The Naughty Dog Project. None of these titles interest you at all? What about GOW3? Do you actually use your consoles to game or do you hoist them up a pole and swear an alligence?

Also the PS3 is NOT 600$ there is a cheaper version out there that is just as good for your gaming needs. These types of comments just show that you are not out to discuss anything you just want to CONVINCE others that the PS3 is as expensive as possible.

So SHUT UP with the damn penis comparisons allready. It makes us all look like 16 year olds with nothing better to do than argue on the internet. Instead of the 20 to 30 something people we are who come together because of our mutual love of GAMES. Do us all a favor and THINK before you come of as some corporate marketing tool.

God this site is so full of whiners its amazing. Your dislike of this clip has absolutly nothing to do with the actual clip but rather with what platform the game will be on.

The game is AGES from beeing released so please use your head. GT5 will be amazing and if anyone doubts that you can just look at the previous work that Polyphony Digital has released. Im sure some of you hate Polyphony Digital too. Is not that sad? Hating a great developer just so you can be some corporate tool.

You guys are pathetic, I find it offensive that you actually call yourselves gamers.

Seriously why are you all beeing such hipocrites? Its utterly amazing that Microsoft can get away with CGI and other companies can not.

Just goes to show what kind of people usually comment on these sites. WE GET IT. The 360 is american and other systems are not.

Ridiculous. Please alert me when people around here grow som brains and actually start talking about games instead of rasism and hatred.

Oh please Microsoft clearly claimed the last Halo triler to be real time.

This just goes to show people hate Sony because its Sony, not for any real reason. Hypocrisy.

"Lets see, invade neighbors, check. Ethnic cleansing, check. Socialism, check. Nationalism, check. Gas minorities, check. Dictator, check. Dude you are really on thin ice there."

Im on thin ice? The very idea of comapring Saddam to Hitler is ridiculous. Its like saying a pin pong ball and the moon are the same cause they are both round.

Yeah Minus_273 cause Saddam and Hitler are the same. I guess we can leave out the fact that the USA did not get involved in WW2 until they got attacked. They just got involved cause their nice... Ignorance.

Anyway, talking about theocracy, USA is a nation ruled by born again christians. Even the president himself has said he gets orders from God.

America is just as evil and dangerous as Iran. The only difference is that the USA does not opress their own citizens they just opress other nations. Kidnap people from all over the world and put them in jail without trail. Then they torture them for years.

If the USA had any sort of decency they would bring their leaders to justice. Put them on trail in Haag for crimes against humanety. Their lies and crimes has cost more than 600.000 people their lives.

"Um, how about the one about how you're not paying $600 for a games machine, or a games machine with media features, you're paying about $400 for a games machine and then contributing $200 more to Sony's campaign to the home video distribution industry to go with Blu-Ray, so they can say, See look at our installed base."

First of all why do you have to choose the 600$ PS3 to prove your point rather than the cheap version? Do you absolutly have to make the PS3 look as expensive as possible? There is a cheaper version you know. Also Blu-Ray is not Sonys product, yes they have had a hand in developing it but there are many many equal and lesser partners involved. If you have read up on the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray thing you would know that Microsoft was one of the main reason we have this stupid division at all. They refused to back a product that used a JAVA based menu system. Instead they back HD-DVD because it uses a Microsoft developed menu system.

"I had a guy at Best Buy explain to me the other day that the PS3 was better because it has Blu-Ray and Blu-Ray can hold 50GB of data on a single dual-layer disc, meaning the games will look that much better. I've had people who should know better than this Best Buy sales guy explain it the same way. So, that's what, *maybe* 100MB of engine code and 49.9GB of character models and textures? Sure, I guess you can make longer games with Blu-Ray; that would represent a cost savings overall since you could spend $60 on one game with 35,040 game-play hours in the single player campaign. With PS3, you only really need one game, right?"

No, wrong. I see that your problem with Blu-Ray is that you feel that it has no use for games. Well it does have a use, for example you now do not have to spread games over multiple DVDs. This also saves development time. Also I dont have to get up and change discs everytime I zone over to a new island or whatever. Its just a disc player with more space on it, it does not magically make graphics better or whatnot it just lets you put more on one disc. And IMHO that is a great thing.


"Blu-Ray has a Byzantine data architecture that makes it somewhat difficult to develop for, which means longer development times, higher cost to develop, fewer quality games -- until the developers get up to speed, which will take them longer than with the other current generation consoles."

I love how you use the word byzantine... Anyway I would love to see some documentation on how the data structure of Blu-Ray makes it hard to develop for.....

"This would only sell more proprietary format MemorySticks and since those aren't exactly an industry standard, you'd think they wouldn't mind selling several to every PSP owner. This is not an engineering problem; this is broken by marketing to promote the PS3. Which makes no sense, that you'd turn down PSP owners cash for games downloads that are by now almost pure profit just because they can't or won't buy a PS3. Hell, if they could even find one right now."

I do not disagree with you that marketing has some role in the delay of the straight to psp feature. But still it is coming. Also the memory stick is NOT a propietary product. This just shows your ignorance. There are other companies that produce Memory Sticks like for example SanDisk and Lexar.


"PS3's dependence on Blu-Ray is a problem. PS3's decentralized online multiplayer is a problem. PS3's lack of perceptible graphics/performance advantage over Xbox 360 is a problem."

How is the PS3 dependant of Blu-Ray? All PS3 games will be on BDs, what is the problem with that? So of the high capacity discs fail for popular movie distribution high capacity discs cant be used for games? You make no sence. How is the decentralized online a problem? Is it that it can offer a unsurpased(on consoles) 40 player online games? What are you talking about? And the lack of perceptible difference from 360 games? You should know that the GPUs are pretty much equal but the prosessor is superior so while you may not see much of a difference you can do more things on it like for example more characters on screen or better physics.


"You'd think Sony's dominance is impenetrable, but there was another console maker who could never be pushed to last place. They were called Atari. There was another one; they were called Sega. There was another, called Nintendo. Give it some, some ongoing complications and missteps, and you'll have something like looks a lot like minidisc and sounds a lot like an 80s techno-pop song: Big in Japan."

See this is where the real problem lies. You just WANT the PS3 to fail. For no reason, its got good hardware, good online and good games coming after launch. IMHO the good games start coming in March, like Motor storm, Mercenaries 2 and Heavenly Sword. So stop bitching and moaning for nothing. If you want good games right now buy a PS2 or a Wii. But when a console launches there are not too many good titles out. This is a "rule" for all launches. So please stop the ignorant and stupid hating. These console flaming wars give gamers a bad name and makes us look retarded. Its about games not which console you just happen to hate.