my only question is whether this is real or not, cuz i dont want to be sitting here wasting me time if there is money to be made out there. Come on Jack baby, empty those pockets.
THANK YOU MATTHEW WALSH!!! for being the only one so far in this post with some SENSE!!!!!!!!
Most people will skip over it and voice their opinion rather than actually READING FACTS!!!
The only point I'd like to make is it has FAR less to do with the RAM space available and a hell of alot more to do with the RAM bandwidth. Thats the real memory limitations Bethesda is talking about. The PS3 do it its design is forced to use the system RAM bandwidth for its frame buffer which has a paltry ~25GBps bandwidth as opposed to the 360's 256GBps for FRAMEBUFFER (which dictates AA and HDR effects) Basically the frambuffer is already strained and adding more crap into the game world will only cause the game to run at 5fps.
As for the shaders, This is one of the reasons I will not support 360 games yet as devs are still old shader techniques which look like crap and actually make the games run SLOWER than if they used current shader tech. The reason is that GPUs are DESIGNED for the newer tech which, to make a long story short allows them to render less polygons on screen while producing visuals that are several times more detailed . Example a typical enemy in Gears of War is made of 5000 polygons which actually LESS than many characters in current gen games. For perpective Mario 64 , had Mario at 500 polys and obviously looked like block. With only 10x the number of polys you can produce almost near cinematic renders due to normal, parralax, mapping and such. Its just that no one actually feels like doing the work because theres no competition on the market. At least not until GOW came out...
In addition the core/blue dragon pack and price has been announced for almost 2 months in japan. Who would buy a 360 before that time?!?! If the US released a core system with a pack in Gears of War game PLUS limited edition goodies and annouced it months in advance plus offered it at $250 or $50 less that retail price do you think US gamers would be clamoring to purchase a 360 BEFORE than?
my personally opinion based on jack thompson response is that the ESA has an obligation to uphold its promise and that an rating equivilent should be applied to video games as well. The question is which standard should apply. Should M-rating games be categorized along with NC-17 movies or R-rated movies? Since M games rarely feature content beyond what would be considered a R rating in movie theaters the latter arguement likely wouldnt apply. I will say I would like sources of the first point out the arguement to view the context of that oath however i agree the ESA must adhere to its previous oaths. Now that we know the route of the arguement lets search for who is really violating what here.
um... brian i hate to say it but you view is VERY biased and makes a TON of assumptions. Have you conducted a survey?!? Can you direct us to one?!?! What are the demographics. You are one of the people the informed individuals fight AGAINST. Those who make ASSUMTIONS based on their point of view rather than viewing the FACTS.
FACT. The majority of games store DO act for ID for video game purchases of M games for customers who appear under the age of 16. VERY similar to the way movie theaters ask the same.
Piet you are an idiot, by your reasoning, minors shouldnt be allowed to play paintball as it encourages then to go shoot people, or drive go cars because it encourages them to go drive a real car... idiot. Entertainment is entertainment period. What about advertising alcohol? Thats definitely has the sole purpose of participating and is often in plain view of minors
To brian, it is the PARENTS responsibility to NOT buy those games for their children. Just like its a parents resposibility to NOT take their kids to a rated R movie or but their music with explicit lyrics. The KIDS ARE NOT THE ONES BUYING IT. ITS THE PARENTS RESPONBILITY!!!
at this point its getting ridiculous. If you ban these ads you must ban advertisements for rated -R movies, alcohol, explicit music, basically anything a minor should not participate in. However theres too much money in those industries... plus parents dont have to take responsibility now
Squirrel are you insane? Its a form of ABUSE! So if a women is sexually harrassed on the job she should either let the boss grab her butt or find another job? Its the same exact principal!!! Unwelcomed comments or actions are still unwelcomed and people have the right NOT to be offended more than we have the right to free speech in certain grounds. (which often is unfornately taken to far) While I agree it sucks I cant say everything I think, LEGALLY despite what epobirs claims (write a comment like that on an asian subordinates review and see if you dont get taken to court buddy) we have an obligation to not offend minority groups. Claiming that if they dont like something they should just move away from the situation is idiotic. Its like saying if black people had so many problems during the civil rights movement they should have all moved north. Do you know how stupid that sounds?
Sony's Jack Tretton and the $1200 quote
Feb 10th 2007 2:56PM (Joystiq)Oblivion: Downgraded for PS3, not happening on Wii [update 1]
Feb 10th 2007 1:31PM (Joystiq)Most people will skip over it and voice their opinion rather than actually READING FACTS!!!
The only point I'd like to make is it has FAR less to do with the RAM space available and a hell of alot more to do with the RAM bandwidth. Thats the real memory limitations Bethesda is talking about. The PS3 do it its design is forced to use the system RAM bandwidth for its frame buffer which has a paltry ~25GBps bandwidth as opposed to the 360's 256GBps for FRAMEBUFFER (which dictates AA and HDR effects) Basically the frambuffer is already strained and adding more crap into the game world will only cause the game to run at 5fps.
As for the shaders, This is one of the reasons I will not support 360 games yet as devs are still old shader techniques which look like crap and actually make the games run SLOWER than if they used current shader tech. The reason is that GPUs are DESIGNED for the newer tech which, to make a long story short allows them to render less polygons on screen while producing visuals that are several times more detailed . Example a typical enemy in Gears of War is made of 5000 polygons which actually LESS than many characters in current gen games. For perpective Mario 64 , had Mario at 500 polys and obviously looked like block. With only 10x the number of polys you can produce almost near cinematic renders due to normal, parralax, mapping and such. Its just that no one actually feels like doing the work because theres no competition on the market. At least not until GOW came out...
Weekly Webcomic Wrapup: evil Mii edition [update 1]
Jan 6th 2007 4:10PM (Joystiq)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcACuy4x8nA
Japanese hardware sales, 27 Nov - 3 Dec: wiivolution edition
Dec 8th 2006 6:11PM (Joystiq)you are an idiot.
The title clearly states nov 27-dec 3
Blue Dragon released on the 7th...
In addition the core/blue dragon pack and price has been announced for almost 2 months in japan. Who would buy a 360 before that time?!?! If the US released a core system with a pack in Gears of War game PLUS limited edition goodies and annouced it months in advance plus offered it at $250 or $50 less that retail price do you think US gamers would be clamoring to purchase a 360 BEFORE than?
The Political Game: Banned in Boston
Nov 24th 2006 2:37PM (Joystiq)I will say I would like sources of the first point out the arguement to view the context of that oath however i agree the ESA must adhere to its previous oaths. Now that we know the route of the arguement lets search for who is really violating what here.
The Political Game: Banned in Boston
Nov 24th 2006 1:56PM (Joystiq)what is your stance on R-rated movie and explicit lyric advertisements in public venues? Why are those acceptable?
The Political Game: Banned in Boston
Nov 24th 2006 1:52PM (Joystiq)FACT. The majority of games store DO act for ID for video game purchases of M games for customers who appear under the age of 16. VERY similar to the way movie theaters ask the same.
http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/nys/gme/compliance.pdf
Like I said you are ASSUME they dont. DO the research they you can bad mouth the industry all you want.
The Political Game: Banned in Boston
Nov 24th 2006 1:14PM (Joystiq)To brian, it is the PARENTS responsibility to NOT buy those games for their children. Just like its a parents resposibility to NOT take their kids to a rated R movie or but their music with explicit lyrics. The KIDS ARE NOT THE ONES BUYING IT. ITS THE PARENTS RESPONBILITY!!!
The Political Game: Banned in Boston
Nov 24th 2006 1:06PM (Joystiq)Microsoft's Japan-only Blue Dragon bundle [update 1]
Oct 8th 2006 8:50AM (Joystiq)