Yoshi Likes Boys

Go easy on darryl, he's just a dedicated gimmick poster.

Bad:
Resident Evil
Yoshi: Touch And Go

Good:
It's Mr. Pants!
Bignose Freaks Out

I can spell it out if you'd like, I apologize for lack of clarity.

Cinema, literature, and theatre are all artistic forms of storytelling. Your "quality" dispute was already addressed in my post, just because many movies coming out of Hollywood with no artistic merit doesn't negate the ones that do. Games, even story-driven ones, cannot be of any significant artistic merit because of the requisite things that make them games.

You missed my point. No pornographic movies with artistic value as movies exist not because one would not sell, but because such a thing is impossible, because of the requisite focus of porn on sexual titillation.

I won't dictate any definition you wish to ascribe to "games as art," because a game can be its own art form, as anything else can be. However, as a storytelling medium, it falls short and is as intrinsically inferior as porn.

Go figure, gamers need to be set straight on this.

Even a game industry with soul (there have been plenty of great games throughout history with soul, though they're clearly in the minority) is never going to break into the realm of art. The comparison to games and porn is PERFECT, because no matter the production quality and creative content in porn (of which there usually isn't any, but has been known to happen) it is still filled with gratuitous, extended sex with the primary purpose of sexually titillating the viewer. Without that, it is not porn. In the same vein, as Ebert articulated and was dumped on by largely ignorant and illiterate gamers, games fall prey to the same trap in a different form by requiring a degree of user input and player challenge/choice. That's what makes them games, and it will always keep them, as a whole, from becoming a form of artistic expression. The visual and musical works contained IN the game can be artistic creations, you won't find too many bigger fans of Uematsu Nobuo's work than me, but as a whole, in comparison to movies, literature, or theater, something that games often try to imitate, the very requirements that make it a game and not any of those other things are what will always keep it from breaking into the realm of art.

In response to the comparison of certain games to Hollywood's creations, merely because there are bad, unartistic movies out there that pander to the gratuitous moviegoing public doesn't negate the ones that don't. Similarly, the existence of Danielle Steel novels do not negate the legitimacy of Mary Shelley's work. The argument is based on format, not execution.

I'm sure intelligent, well-thought out arguments HERE will largely fall on deaf ears, but I had a few free minutes and thought that Jaffe's comparison deserved some praise. I enjoy games as much as the next cat, but as games. Entertainment, not art.

Online multiplayer gaming is an awesome idea, except for, you know, people.

1997? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. How old are you? Don't forget that 2002 classic Super Mario Bros.

Vagabond Artist: Heritage, biotch. Or do you think that tattoos, monokinis, and shrunken tweed blazers will be cool forever? Go figure, a gamer with lack of perspective.

Arch: From the bottom of the article: "maybe somebody can figure out a way to extend this to support fast forward and rewind."

Man, FF and REW are so overrated.

Still WAY inferior to XBMC. Wake me up when they crack the console so people who know what they're doing can do it right.

Hope they bought a steady supply of screen protectors.